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It's official folks especially for Cord Cutters! YouTube TV has arrived in the Charlotte, NC DMA! It includes WBTV, WSOC, WCNC, and WJZY. I wish YouTube TV launches in other markets like Greenville, SC Columbia, SC and Charleston, SC. I know Atlatna, GA is launched as well!

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Good to hear if they carry the local channels. Would have to compare to Sling, Playstation Vue, and DirecTV Now.
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But perhaps these permits are preliminary and subject to change.
Stations were only allowed to file to stay within their original contours in the first 90-day filing period that just passed. There's a 1% allowance to allow for tiny variations due to unavoidable changes in antenna pattern due to the change in frequency, but otherwise, don't expect any significant changes until one of the two priority windows.

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It's official folks especially for Cord Cutters! YouTube TV has arrived in the Charlotte.

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If getting a few basic cable channels winds your watch (not my thing), YouTube TV might (possibly) be worth $35/mo. But, as far as replacing OTA it's a yawner, IMO (unless you can't get decent OTA reception). Looks like only the primary (-1, ABC, NBC, etc) local channels will be carried, and not the bunch of -2, -3, -4 sub-channels (many of which I wouldn't want to be without).

Instead of YouTube TV, I will stick with my antenna and spend the $35 a month I save on beer and pizza!
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Stations were only allowed to file to stay within their original contours in the first 90-day filing period that just passed. There's a 1% allowance to allow for tiny variations due to unavoidable changes in antenna pattern due to the change in frequency, but otherwise, don't expect any significant changes until one of the two priority windows.

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Just seems for ideal optimum coverage WCNC and WJZY should be able to top mount their transmitting antennas. Their analog stick antennas unnecessarily remain on top of the towers and were never moved. Their digital antennas were sidemounted. It seems WBTV, WSOC, and WCCB antennas were top mounted during the original digital transition.
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Just seems for ideal optimum coverage WCNC and WJZY should be able to top mount their transmitting antennas. Their analog stick antennas unnecessarily remain on top of the towers and were never moved. Their digital antennas were sidemounted. It seems WBTV, WSOC, and WCCB antennas were top mounted during the original digital transition.
They could file for a top mount now, but they would take a pretty good hit on power to maintain existing coverage if moving down in channel.

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They could file for a top mount now, but they would take a pretty good hit on power to maintain existing coverage if moving down in channel.
As a nontechnical layperson, I forget about that aspect. Just thinking in comparison to WBTV superior signal with their 1000kw omnidirectional top mount. They did outstanding job way back when and apparently will remain that way. Don't know why WCNC and WJZY never chose to remove their analog antennas and top mount. But I reliably receive all 3 stations at 75 miles; just a difference of 10 bars for WBTV and 6 to 8 for the other stations. And I guess most viewers don't care about counting bars on a Samsung signal meter as long as they get a stable signal.

But the main difference is I can get WBTV with an indoor antenna but WCNC and WJZY require an outdoor antenna.
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I also wonder if circular polarization is better than horizontal in the fringe reception. It appears in the FCC listing WCCB will be elliptical rather than horizontal, although I don't understand the technical reason. And perhaps changing from nondirectional to directional.
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It's official folks especially for Cord Cutters! YouTube TV has arrived in the Charlotte, NC DMA! It includes WBTV, WSOC, WCNC, and WJZY. I wish YouTube TV launches in other markets like Greenville, SC Columbia, SC and Charleston, SC. I know Atlatna, GA is launched as well!

What do you think of YouTubeTV?
Not sure why I would get it since I have an antenna that picks up everything very reliably.

Don't have any interest in the cable channel thing. Gave that up 5 years ago.
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If getting a few basic cable channels winds your watch (not my thing), YouTube TV might (possibly) be worth $35/mo. But, as far as replacing OTA it's a yawner, IMO (unless you can't get decent OTA reception). Looks like only the primary (-1, ABC, NBC, etc) local channels will be carried, and not the bunch of -2, -3, -4 sub-channels (many of which I wouldn't want to be without).

Instead of YouTube TV, I will stick with my antenna and spend the $35 a month I save on beer and pizza!
I went to their website to check it out. My sister recently moved to Gaston County and doesn't currently have TV service. She misses some of the basic cable shows, so I thought this might be a good fit for them and decided to give it a trial run before recommending. When I went to the website I was surprised to find that I'm close enough to the border that it recognizes me as being in the Charlotte area (technically parts of my zip code are anyway). I signed up for the month free trial. It seems to be a good fit for those who want a limited set of channels and DVR service. You can stream WBTV, WSOC, WCNC and WJZY along with the basic cable channels they offer. DVR is unlimited, and you can "share" your account with six people.. 3 of whom can be streaming simultaneously. If you go to another market and local channels are available in it you can stream them, but you can't record locals from outside your market.
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I went to their website to check it out. My sister recently moved to Gaston County and doesn't currently have TV service. She misses some of the basic cable shows, so I thought this might be a good fit for them and decided to give it a trial run before recommending. When I went to the website I was surprised to find that I'm close enough to the border that it recognizes me as being in the Charlotte area (technically parts of my zip code are anyway). I signed up for the month free trial. It seems to be a good fit for those who want a limited set of channels and DVR service. You can stream WBTV, WSOC, WCNC and WJZY along with the basic cable channels they offer. DVR is unlimited, and you can "share" your account with six people.. 3 of whom can be streaming simultaneously. If you go to another market and local channels are available in it you can stream them, but you can't record locals from outside your market.
Interesting they allow Cherokee County as part of Charlotte viewing area since technically it is part of GSP market. As discussued before I guess it is one of those overlapping areas.
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Interesting they allow Cherokee County as part of Charlotte viewing area since technically it is part of GSP market. As discussued before I guess it is one of those overlapping areas.


Well it only allows it in the parts closest to the border, and you must have a billing zip code that is shared with the Charlotte market too.
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