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bdfox18doe's Avatar bdfox18doe 05:07 PM 09-21-2008
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Originally Posted by A J View Post

Either my tuner slipped a cog

Their PSIP generator has crashed.. the channels you list are their native RF channels, the PSIP generator makes them show up as 46 and 55, as well as insert the EPG.

Trip in VA's Avatar Trip in VA 05:11 PM 09-21-2008
Sounds like the PSIP encoder died. Those are the physical frequencies the stations are on. Surprised that both would go out at once, but maybe they're both getting fed with the same box or something?

- Trip
eacalhoun's Avatar eacalhoun 12:38 PM 09-22-2008
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Originally Posted by A J View Post

Either my tuner slipped a cog or two stations were on different channels Sunday evening. WMYT was on 39-1, 39-2, & 39-3, instead of its normal 55-1, 55-2, & 55-3. And, WJZY was on 47-3 & 47-4, instead of 46-1 & 46-2.

Anybody else run across this?

A J

I saw this, too, and I thought it was my box (DTV Pal) initially. However, knowing that WMYT and WJZY are co-owned I began thinking otherwise. You guys confirmed this...this would also affect the current time stamp on these channels, right? Can you imagine how confusing this is for most viewers, especially older ones? They don't run to the computer like we do and look at some message board to get some answers.

Eric
netconcepts's Avatar netconcepts 05:34 AM 09-23-2008
Speaking of virtual channels. Based upon the 'DTV's dirty little secret" article on AVS home page. Are any of the Charlotte broadcasters planning to revert to a VHF signal after the DTV transition in February?
That would really a pain for those of us who only bought UHF antenna's. WTVI's VHF DT signal is not available though my set up, and because WUNG and WNSC are UHF, I am happy with the programming options. I was not planning to join in an VHF antenna in the attic.
Trip in VA's Avatar Trip in VA 08:21 AM 09-23-2008
Nope, WTVI-DT is it. Everything in the market is on its permanent channel (though not necessarily at permanent power level) except WUNE-DT 54 (17-1) up in Linville (which returns to 17 next year).

- Trip
eacalhoun's Avatar eacalhoun 09:40 AM 09-23-2008
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Nope, WTVI-DT is it. Everything in the market is on its permanent channel (though not necessarily at permanent power level) except WUNE-DT 54 (17-1) up in Linville (which returns to 17 next year).

- Trip

This is EXACTLY why I'm trying to excercise financial discipline and not spend a bunch of money on my antenna configuration and "accessories" like a pre-amp or even a new antenna. Most everyone on these boards know some stations will migrate to different channels after February, but what we really don't know is how signals will change as broadcasters move their DTV antennas to their new, permanent postions (once they remove the analog antennas). All of that will mostly NOT happen in one day--on Feb 17--but in the days and months to follow. I think it willl be at least a year from now before we realize how the post Feb 17 signals will play out.

The only thing I have done is "chop off" the VHF-lo band portion of my antenna. It's a 15-year-old VU-120 from Radio Shack, and large and heavy. I've been wanting to raise it a few feet, but only after taking some weight off it. So, last week I shortened it (leaving the VHF-hi band elements and UHF yagi. I also had to move the mast mount to its new center of balance.

Eric
Theo1080's Avatar Theo1080 12:02 PM 09-23-2008
Ok...I am here, what do you want to know about WSOC-DT?

WSOC-DT operates at 1000Kw ERP, to most allowed by law. It has been at 1000Kw since May of 2004.
WAXN-DT operates at 50Kw ERP, we have filed with the FCC and received approval to increase to 150Kw DA ERP after Feb 17th, 2009. The 150Kw is the most that WAXN can increase to because it protects a N+1 in Greensboro, NC (WFMY-DT).

If you have questions, ask.
I will answer any questions you have and I will try to solve any problems you have. However, I will not respond to comments: like WSOC-DT is trying to save money, Lets email and bug them! WSOC is slow in getting up to speed
people who make comments like that should know there facts before they make comments like that.

ted.hand@wsoc-tv.com 704-335-4732
nctarheel's Avatar nctarheel 08:34 PM 09-23-2008
Why are WSOC and WAXN suffixed -DT while WCNC is suffixed -HD on the TitanTV listings?
Theo1080's Avatar Theo1080 04:23 AM 09-24-2008
WSOC-DT AND WAXN-DT are the call letters issued by the FCC. There is no standard of what stations can place in there PSIP VCT file. TitanTV puts in there info what the station has in there VCT. Putting WCNC-HD is a Belo decision. It is not wrong to do so.

We use WSOC-DT for 9.1, we use WSOC-WX for 9.2 in the VCT, we ID it as WSOC-DT2, which is 8 letters. VCT ID file will only take 7.
ECUPirates's Avatar ECUPirates 06:36 AM 09-24-2008
Theo,

On Sunday night (the Jimmy Kimmel Special) and again last night (News at 11:00pm)I was watching WSOC-DT on Dish Network. There were frequent audio dropouts.

Do you know if this is a Dish Network or WSOC problem?

Thanks!
Theo1080's Avatar Theo1080 07:42 AM 09-24-2008
WSOC records 9.0, 9.1 OTA and 4 and 235 off TWC. Taking random checks, I could not find an audio drop out. We do not record off of Dish or Direct
herrfish1's Avatar herrfish1 08:54 AM 09-24-2008
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Originally Posted by Theo1080 View Post

Ok...I am here, what do you want to know about WSOC-DT?

WSOC-DT operates at 1000Kw ERP, to most allowed by law. It has been at 1000Kw since May of 2004.
WAXN-DT operates at 50Kw ERP, we have filed with the FCC and received approval to increase to 150Kw DA ERP after Feb 17th, 2009. The 150Kw is the most that WAXN can increase to because it protects a N+1 in Greensboro, NC (WFMY-DT).

If you have questions, ask.
I will answer any questions you have and I will try to solve any problems you have. However, I will not respond to comments: like WSOC-DT is trying to save money, Lets email and bug them! WSOC is slow in getting up to speed
people who make comments like that should know there facts before they make comments like that.

ted.hand@wsoc-tv.com 704-335-4732

Ted,
WSOC's digital signal is doing just fine...I'm getting it at 100% on my Directv H20 receiver all the way down in Richmond County (Rockingham) using a rooftop mounted CM4228 antenna with rotor and a CM 4227 UHF amplifier. Keep up the good work!!! And thanks for leading the way in broadcasting local news in High Definition in the Charlotte market!
blackcap93's Avatar blackcap93 12:45 PM 09-25-2008
UNC-TV's digital services changed across the state this morning, and here are the changes:

UNC-TV (WUN?-DT1) is now in HD, with mixed HD/SD programming
UNC-KD is now at WUN?-DT2
UNC-NC is now at WUN?-DT3

UNC-HD and UNC-ED are now available only from Time Warner Cable and certain other providers with fiber-optic links to UNC-TV facilities. Cable providers which pick up and retransmit the OTA signal (Charter in Boone, Hickory, and other areas, as well as possibly some other providers) are subject to the OTA service limitations above.
VARTV's Avatar VARTV 01:12 PM 09-25-2008
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Nope, WTVI-DT is it. Everything in the market is on its permanent channel (though not necessarily at permanent power level) except WUNE-DT 54 (17-1) up in Linville (which returns to 17 next year).

- Trip

Trip you're in the Charlotte thread too! Hahaha...
VARTV's Avatar VARTV 01:19 PM 09-25-2008
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Originally Posted by Theo1080 View Post

WSOC-DT AND WAXN-DT are the call letters issued by the FCC.

Hey Ted... Hope all is well... I meant to post this the other day. Was getting a faint signal from WSOC in Virginia Beach... Not enough for a picture though...


bdfox18doe's Avatar bdfox18doe 01:29 PM 09-25-2008
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Was getting a faint signal from WSOC in Virginia Beach... Not enough for a picture though...]

He's gotta lean-yur on it..
Trip in VA's Avatar Trip in VA 01:37 PM 09-25-2008
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Trip you're in the Charlotte thread too! Hahaha...

I'm everywhere. =)

- Trip
VARTV's Avatar VARTV 01:38 PM 09-25-2008
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

I'm everywhere. =)

- Trip

I'm checking the Honolulu HI and Barrow AK threads...
Trip in VA's Avatar Trip in VA 01:45 PM 09-25-2008
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

I'm checking the Honolulu HI and Barrow AK threads...

Barrow AK doesn't have HDTV.

I don't think I've posted in the Honolulu thread since they're usually only talking about cable, though I have a lot of posts in many other threads. =)

So, in a desperate attempt to keep this on topic, WHKY-DT had their maximization approved by the FCC the other day. They want to transmit at 950 kW from a taller tower just southwest of Hickory, and will a much less-restrained directional pattern. Who knows when it will be built.

- Trip
blackcap93's Avatar blackcap93 03:10 PM 09-25-2008
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

...Was getting a faint signal from WSOC in Virginia Beach... Not enough for a picture though...

Seems like the equinoctal propagation has been pretty good; at my low-lying apartment location, I was actually able to pull in WAXN and WHKY, which typically don't come in at all here. Usually, I'm limited to the Dallas TX's, WCCB, WUNG, and WNSC.
Theo1080's Avatar Theo1080 03:22 PM 09-25-2008
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Hey Ted... Hope all is well... I meant to post this the other day. Was getting a faint signal from WSOC in Virginia Beach... Not enough for a picture though...

Hey Robert...Hope all is well back Hampton Roads
eacalhoun's Avatar eacalhoun 11:51 AM 09-26-2008
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Barrow AK doesn't have HDTV.

So, in a desperate attempt to keep this on topic, WHKY-DT had their maximization approved by the FCC the other day. They want to transmit at 950 kW from a taller tower just southwest of Hickory, and will a much less-restrained directional pattern. Who knows when it will be built.

- Trip

According to an FCC map this site looks to be Bakers Mountain. If so, history repeats itself for the Long Family (owners of WHKY-TV-DT). In FM's infancy, the Long's had one of the first FMs in the Carolinas. It initially transmitted from this site with something like 200kw. I understand the signal went well into bordering states. This station is now WLYT 102.9, Charlotte.

Eric
ECUPirates's Avatar ECUPirates 07:42 PM 09-27-2008
According to today's Charlotte Observer WCCB will be debuting its news in HD tomorrow (Sunday, September 28).

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/505/story/215747.html

It also says that WCNC will be a while on making the switch to HD.
jtbell's Avatar jtbell 09:01 PM 09-27-2008
I noticed WCCB's news promos tonight were in letterboxed widescreen. I didn't have the sound on at the moment, so I couldn't tell whether they were talking about HD news, but I figured it must be a sign they were getting close.
jtbell's Avatar jtbell 03:58 PM 09-28-2008
I just saw WCCB's HD news debut during halftime of the Dallas / Washington game. It looked pretty good! I'm looking forward to 10pm tonight.

My reception on WCCB is a chancy proposition this time of day, but fortunately it fell into place during the second quarter.
herrfish1's Avatar herrfish1 03:58 PM 09-28-2008
Wow...I was right about Fox Charlotte beating WBTV and WCNC to the punch in presenting local HD programming!

BD, your whole body must ache from running all those new wires. But we really appreciate it! LOL!
bdfox18doe's Avatar bdfox18doe 04:09 PM 09-28-2008
Appreciate the kind comments. There are a lot of us here with aches and pains from this project, of which we aren't close to being done yet.
I must give kudos to the engineers,production,graphics,and news department here (and many others) who are responsible for what you see.

We'll only get better from here on out.
ECUPirates's Avatar ECUPirates 08:56 PM 09-28-2008
Bob,

The 10:00 news looked great.

I noticed that the live field shots were widescreen, but most of the other "local" non-studio video was 4x3. Will it continue to be that way, or will that change?

The Honda Concord ad was the first local commercial I have seen in HD on any station.
A J's Avatar A J 06:54 AM 09-29-2008
I agree that the Fox ten o'clock news looked terrific. I guess I had assumed that it would be the same-old-same-old in 16:9 format. I was blown away by the new studio sets. Definitely grabs your attention.

I also noticed that 18.3 weather also changed to 16:9 yesterday, still SD, of course, but in the proper digital screen format.

A J
ONTHEAIR's Avatar ONTHEAIR 12:30 PM 09-29-2008
Help please!! I've been having occasional hiccups with my DirecTV HR20 DVR that I was finally able to pinpoint, and it's related to WCCB. (My new favorite HD news station!)

Every so often while watching a program from "My Playlist," the picture and sound would freeze and not respond to most remote commands. I could stop the program and return to the list. "Resuming" the same program would cause it to play from the beginning instead of where it froze. After this sequence happened several times, pressing play on ANY previously recorded program would cause it to jump right to the "do you want to delete?" screen. I would usually reboot the DVR and silent mumble about how much I miss my old Tivo...

Lately, I noticed a pattern. When these lockups happened, the tuner was always on 18-1. Sometimes recording a program, sometimes buffering live tv, but always on 18-1. The past two monday nights trying to watch MNF delayed while recording "Prison Break," Saturday afternoon switching from live baseball to view a recording of Sesame Street for my son. And then yesterday, after the conclusion of the Cowboys/Redskins game to watch "Football Night in America" on the playlist. When I tuned away from 18-1 and restarted the program everything was fine.

Thoughts?

Bob, have you heard of this problem before?

Thanks for your help!
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