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Old 12-03-2009, 08:26 AM
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Is it just me or are the locals over DirecTV only coming in with stereo sound. My Yamaha reciever never registers 5.1 surround for any programing on any of these stations.
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:40 AM - Thread Starter
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As far as I know, the stations don't broadcast in 5.1. So they aint going to be on the dish, either.
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There is an interesting map of satellite coverage at the following site:
http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/lil.html
as well as broadcasting news at
http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/index.html
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Any updates on whether KNDX will show up on DirecTV?
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Why don't you check with this address:

garyo
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fox26
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He has been helpful with my questions. I wrote his address like that so automated scanners won't pick it up and add it to their spam lists.
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Something is going on off the Dickinson translator for KNDX (FOX). I have a DirecTV AM21 OTA receiver and the picture stutters every 5-10 seconds despite signal strength in the 80s and 90s. It was working fine when the signal strength was in the 60s before the problems started happening.

The picture also stutters when the antenna is plugged directly into my TV.

What the crappy part of this is is DirecTV still doesn't carry KNDX.

Update: E-mailed the engineer and a hail storm this past week damaged the encoder.
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fox is close on directv
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How close? One or two weeks, or by the NFC Championship game? Once FOX falls into line, it's time for Prairie Public's HD feed to show up on DirecTV.
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New to the Minot area and just got midcomm hooked up. I noticed none of the locals have DD5.1. Whats up with this? Is there any reason they are not broadcasting? Any word on if or when they may start.
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I guess it's not coming. I know there is a test stream on DirecTV, but it's been 10 months. I'm not holding my breath waiting for the station GM to make a deal.
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I guess it's not coming. I know there is a test stream on DirecTV, but it's been 10 months. I'm not holding my breath waiting for the station GM to make a deal.

FOX, not KNDX, seems to be the holdup. KNDX had a deal in place with DirecTV. FOX is not approving any new retransmission agreements.
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FOX, not KNDX, seems to be the holdup. KNDX had a deal in place with DirecTV. FOX is not approving any new retransmission agreements.

DirecTV has been adding Fox stations in other markets.
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FOX isn't coming to DirecTV anytime soon, according to the station manager.
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I know this thread is over a year old, but unless the customer is ready to jump through some hoops, the locals they get from DirecTv, will not include FOX (interesting, when the ABC affiliate is owned by the same company.)

Oh yah, the locals you do get are from Bismarck, 100 miles to the south.

With the record flooding that devastated Minot this summer, our Minot CBS affiliate had 24/7 coverage. It was a vital community lifeline, and a lifeline you would have not gotten if you got "locals" through DirecTv.

Luckily I had my parents setup with an attic antenna that tied into a directv OTA module, so they get true Minot locals.

DirecTv claiming "locals" from 100 miles away is criminal.

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I know this thread is over a year old, but unless the customer is ready to jump through some hoops, the locals they get from DirecTv, will not include FOX (interesting, when the ABC affiliate is owned by the same company.)

Oh yah, the locals you do get are from Bismarck, 100 miles to the south.

With the record flooding that devastated Minot this summer, our Minot CBS affiliate had 24/7 coverage. It was a vital community lifeline, and a lifeline you would have not gotten if you got "locals" through DirecTv.

Luckily I had my parents setup with an attic antenna that tied into a directv OTA module, so they get true Minot locals.

DirecTv claiming "locals" from 100 miles away is criminal.

You have your facts wrong in a few spots. First, Forum Communications in Fargo owns the ABC affiliate in Bismarck, and second, DirecTV doesn't claim locals. There is a federal law that mandates what locals pay TV providers can give to customers. The Bismarck/Minot market is only one market and DirecTV doesn't have the bandwidth to provide the Minot channels as well as the Bismarck ones.

The ABC affiliate used to have a Local Marketing Agreement with the FOX station, but that ended in 2008. Now the station has an LMA with the CBS affilaite.
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You have your facts wrong in a few spots. First, Forum Communications in Fargo owns the ABC affiliate in Bismarck, and second, DirecTV doesn't claim locals. There is a federal law that mandates what locals pay TV providers can give to customers. The Bismarck/Minot market is only one market and DirecTV doesn't have the bandwidth to provide the Minot channels as well as the Bismarck ones.

The ABC affiliate used to have a Local Marketing Agreement with the FOX station, but that ended in 2008. Now the station has an LMA with the CBS affilaite.

I stand corrected. I've been away and just moved back to Minot. I do realize that Bismarck/Minot/Williston/Dickenson is 1 DMA. I used to work at KIZZ-FM in Minot, back when they were owned by Meyer broadcasting. When they sold that, I stayed with Meyer and worked for KMOT(NBC). That was almost 20 years ago. A lot has changed, but not KXMC trouncing us in the ratings.

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I'm another one in Minot, ND.
Nice flood we had this past summer!

Fox/ABC are in HD. The only news station reporting news in HD is KXMC (CBS), which they remind us continually.

I notice that at least over Dish (haven't A/B tested with OTA yet), Fox's national prime time program volume is consistently low, and even after bumping the volume up 5+dB, it still sounds compressed.

If an engineer told me, "Yes, they're using dynamic compression to save on signal bandwidth," I'd believe that. If one said, "They're compressing the entire signal because the exec in Bismarck wants the commercials louder," I'd believe this. Or maybe it's bad equipment imparting distortion? Or some dial norm problem?

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I see there hasnt been any activity in 4 years here but for folks who get ABC OTA in far western ND...that is ending soon

from northpine

A notice running on Forum Communications ABC affiliate KBMY/17 (Bismarck) says the station's programming will no longer be carried on channel 2.2 of Nexstar CBS affiliate KXMA (Dickinson) beginning March 4. The change follows the sale of KXMA and the other western North Dakota CBS affiliates from Reiten Television to Nexstar, which was required by FCC rules to give up a joint sales agreement with KBMY. The ABC affiliate also has a satellite in Minot, KMCY/14, but relied on KXMA and channel 11.2 of KXMD (Williston) to reach the western cities of the vast market; KXMD is presumably dropping the KBMY/KMCY feed as well. KBMY/KMCY had operated analog translators in Dickinson and Williston prior to the subchannel simulcasts. An announcement running on the station says cable and satellite providers will still offer KBMY/KMCY in Dickinson and Williston, and they are exploring opportunities for restoring over-the-air coverage of the cities. However, Nielsen Media statistics posted by TVB show just a small fraction of viewers in the market rely on over-the-air signals.
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CW replaces the WX station on the "KX" stations

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The CW has been added on Nexstar's KXMB (Bismarck), KXMC (Minot), KXMA (Dickinson), and KXMC (Williston). The stations, which are primary CBS affiliates, have also dropped their 24-hour weather channel but continue to offer the stream online. This is the first time the CW has had a broadcast affiliate in the western North Dakota market, which also still lacks a MyNetworkTV station and never had a WB broadcast affiliate. The CW, and the WB prior to that, had been seen on the cable-only "KMWK" channel.
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and yes I know there is an error. KXMD is the Williston callsign (but I copied/paste)
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also after rummaging through some zap2it listings I see the 2 H&I affiliates (KNDB Bismarck and KNDM Minot) added BEK Sports on the -2
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CW replaces the WX station on the "KX" stations
Per RabbitEars, only KXMC has The CW in HD. The others have it in SD (widescreen on KXMA and KXMD).
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Its all on assumption and nothing is defiknitive. When I e-mailed Trip he responded with

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Thanks for the note. KXMC 13-3 was Weather in 1080i at one point, at least in Minot and Bismarck, so if CW is there, then it's probably HD, I would imagine. Though CW Plus is provided to affiliates in 720p.

I've updated accordingly. If you hear anything more definitive, let me know.
So until there is a definite answer Trip is just inputting it as such. I assume it would be the same resolution across all 4 stations.
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according to someone in the area who confirmed it for me, the CW is in 720p
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according to someone in the area who confirmed it for me, the CW is in 720p
OTA or cable? Hopefully it's not like the lunacy in the eastern 1/2 of the state where the OTA viewers get the CW in 480i -- but an HD 720 feed is given to cable subscribers.
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OTA or cable? Hopefully it's not like the lunacy in the eastern 1/2 of the state where the OTA viewers get the CW in 480i -- but an HD 720 feed is given to cable subscribers.
OTA according to the person who responded to my question. He was wondering why the wx station was now CW and grumbled as he is OTA only and no smart phone (KX says to view wx on smart phone/tablet)

I got a better example of lunacy. Mankato, MN is a one station market (CBS main, FOX sub). KEYC-DT2 FOX is 480i widescreen OTA. HD for cable and Directv (they have direct feeds from the station). Dish doesnt carry the market in HD.
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Well the channel are done and one interesting note
In 3 of the 4 cities its on -2 (in HD)
on KXMA Dickinson its on -1 (moving CBS to -2)
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