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post #6511 of 7539 Old 02-09-2012, 08:08 AM
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It did help!! I'm not so much sure that the antenna is necessarily better than the mohu or CS2, but because of its low profile/size I was able to put it directly on a window sill so that was facing outwards. The CS2 and Mohu weren't really conducive to that, as I didn't want either of those those directly blocking the window (and the wife wasn't too keen on that either!).

Right now I have the wineguard facing east-northeast out of the window towards the building across the street from me. That building has a fairly unobstructed view, so I'm guessing I'm getting a good reflection or something off that building.

Needless to say, I'm getting FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS, and KERA (the ones I care about) nice and clear. Overall I have fewer channels, but I didn't really care about the Korean and Mexican channels, so doesn't bother me.

Signal strength is only ~60% for them all, but its holding there and the signal quality is great. So hopefully this will last and be the solution...

UNFORTUNATELY, as Dallas heats up, the humidity changes, ........., the reflection patterns are likely to change dramatically. You've got your plate full on this one but we all wish you the best of luck!!!!!!!
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UNFORTUNATELY, as Dallas heats up, the humidity changes, ........., the reflection patterns are likely to change dramatically. You've got your plate full on this one but we all wish you the best of luck!!!!!!!

Yeah, you're probably right, but for now I'm going to enjoy it!!
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Needless to say, I'm getting FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS, and KERA (the ones I care about) nice and clear. Overall I have fewer channels, but I didn't really care about the Korean and Mexican channels, so doesn't bother me.

Signal strength is only ~60% for them all, but its holding there and the signal quality is great. So hopefully this will last and be the solution...

I'm not sure what kind of stations you're interested in, but we have several retro tv stations here too. HOT-TV (31.3), RTV (31.4), Antenna TV (33.2) and soon ME-TV (47.1?) all show stuff from the 50's and 60's. Highway Patrol, Sea Hunt, Bonanza, Burns & Allen, Jack Benny, McHale's Navy, Dick Van Dyke, etc., etc., etc. The ones on 31 are from a low power station in DeSoto, but I get them fine up here west of Denton. HOT-TV also shows on 26 and another station that slips my mind right now.

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I'm not sure what kind of stations you're interested in, but we have several retro tv stations here too. HOT-TV (31.3), RTV (31.4), Antenna TV (33.2) and soon ME-TV (47.1?) all show stuff from the 50's and 60's. Highway Patrol, Sea Hunt, Bonanza, Burns & Allen, Jack Benny, McHale's Navy, Dick Van Dyke, etc., etc., etc. The ones on 31 are from a low power station in DeSoto, but I get them fine up here west of Denton. HOT-TV also shows on 26 and another station that slips my mind right now.

Don't forget KFWD/52 also airs classic TV

Oh, and just in case one of these works better than the others, Hot-TV is also shown on KODF/26 and KATA/50.4. All three are low-power broadcasts from Cedar Hill, though. The OP probably doesn't get them reliably, due to having to receive the signals indirectly; but he probably does get KDAF/33 and KTXD/47 reasonably well (although he may have deleted 47 since right now it's just infomercials, religious, and Spanish-language programming).

I'll post back when Me-TV starts to remind everyone to rescan and/or add 47.1 back to their channel lineup.
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UNFORTUNATELY, as Dallas heats up, the humidity changes, ........., the reflection patterns are likely to change dramatically. You've got your plate full on this one but we all wish you the best of luck!!!!!!!

The big problem with hot weather is that a layer of hot air forms near any solid surface that faces the sun, which refracts signals arriving at a low angle (the mirage effect). Depending on what they're bouncing off of, this could make signals change throughout the day (and also evening as those surfaces cool down again), resulting in the dreaded "fading." Or he could be lucky and things won't be affected much. There's no way to know until it happens.
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The big problem with hot weather is that a layer of hot air forms near any solid surface that faces the sun, which refracts signals arriving at a low angle (the mirage effect). Depending on what they're bouncing off of, this could make signals change throughout the day (and also evening as those surfaces cool down again), resulting in the dreaded "fading." Or he could be lucky and things won't be affected much. There's no way to know until it happens.

Yes, I should have included Mr. Refraction as well
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I have a 3020 too and love it, even though it's overkill for my location. I was looking at a 3018 at Fry's but thought, "the 3020 is only $10 more; why not?"

It'd be a good choice for HateNewNHL's granddad, except since he doesn't need VHF-Lo frequencies, I'd go with the smaller (thus easier to keep up in bad weather) 2020 instead. I edited my response above to include the 2020 as an option.

Since Dallas has hot days and very cold nights. (This winter is wacked out) My 3020 has been through it all and my other smaller antenna, the VU-90 shown it more than the 3020. 80 mph winds can move the dipoles back on the VU-90 and on 3020, I have more worries with that one than its dipoles moving back like for instance, when TS Hermine popped on through and gave us 12 straight hours of 60 mph winds. I was afraid of it blowing down with no guy wires. After that, we put up guy wires since it was high up.

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Yeah, you're probably right, but for now I'm going to enjoy it!!

Warm day today. (Groundhogs is so stupid) Everything still working OK for you?
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Hi All,

I haven't posted in awhile. I moved recently and what a difference it makes just moving a few miles. Where as I could get a signal using rabbit ears in the attic, this location is a different beast. I know that I will need to mount an antenna on the roof. I just wanted to get the groups opinion on my tvfool plot. Note, that the ALG is set a 25 ft.

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RabbitEars lists a 34-76. I can get 34-2 & 32-3 but my Vip222k doesn't show a -76. Does anyone see -76? I would expect if you have one CH34 you would get all, unless a model just doesn't work beyond -9? And why would they go to a -76 when -1 is empty?
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It's actually 34-768 but my site code doesn't handle display channels that long.

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It's actually 34-768 but my site code doesn't handle display channels that long.

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I think 34-768 "audio only" went away about a week ago or so. Have not been able to tune it in since.
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It wasn't audio only, it was actually MPEG-4 HD video.

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Everything I have that received 34.769 indicated Audio Only program. That's what I was going by.
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Most TVs and tuners cannot decode MPEG-4, so that's not a surprise. You can see the MPEG-4 video noted in this TSReader data: http://www.rabbitears.info/screencap.../26957-0_0.htm

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Just curious if ME-TV has signed on yet. I'm out of town right now and can't tell, but Neal Sabin told me a couple of weeks ago that March 1st was the sign in date. Should be on 47.1 if I'm not mistaken.

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Just curious if ME-TV has signed on yet. I'm out of town right now and can't tell, but Neal Sabin told me a couple of weeks ago that March 1st was the sign in date. Should be on 47.1 if I'm not mistaken.

Still infomercials as of last night (3/1). I heard it's been pushed back to Monday (3/5) but I'll be checking throughout the weekend.
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Did anyone notice the dropouts on KDFW HD D* LiL last night around midnight ? it was unwatchable. I am convinced that D* is pulling the signal off the air and being fed to D*. How am I convinced? I live out in the fringe areas and at night I have real diffuiculty getting 4, 8, 13, and 33. 8 and 13 being the worst. At the time of the dropouts I switched over to the OTA it was dropping out too. My antenna is the old school CM deep fringe antenna Don't know the model with a CM7777 preamp on a 40ft tower. My house sits on the tallest point on I-30 between Dallas and Little rock. When I'm up the tower, I can see into 3 counties. Hunt, Hopkins and Rains. I can see the Point TX cell tower, at night (if that counts).

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Did anyone notice the dropouts on KDFW HD D* LiL last night around midnight ? it was unwatchable.

KDFW was on their backup transmitter until around 4 AM. On occasion, they do so on Sunday mornings.
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Is anyone having trouble with Ch. 31 lately? I did a rescan yesterday and lost it all together on my main digital television. My other two, using converters, still showed it until I tried to do a rescan of one of them. That one now only shows 31.1 with a "no service" message.

The converter I left alone still has 31.4 (RTV) and will show a signal on 31.3, but says "no service". Signal strength is fairly good at around 70-73%. I usually don't have issues unless it falls below 60%.

After several hours of messing with it last night, I thought I'd check and see if anyone else was having problems with it too before pulling any more of my hair out.

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Still infomercials as of last night (3/1). I heard it's been pushed back to Monday (3/5) but I'll be checking throughout the weekend.

*Sigh* Still infomercials as of Monday evening. Actually doesn't totally surprise me, but I wish they'd quit announcing dates before they're sure they can meet them.

Anyone heard a new ETA for Me-TV on KTXD/47?
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*Sigh* Still infomercials as of Monday evening. Actually doesn't totally surprise me, but I wish they'd quit announcing dates before they're sure they can meet them.

Anyone heard a new ETA for Me-TV on KTXD/47?

I just heard from Neal Sabin of ME-TV, and he told me that the station here is experiencing some "internal equipment issues", and he has been told ME-TV should be on the air here tomorrow (Wed), but "as in the past, that may change".

BTW, all is right with Ch. 31 now. Just before noon, I went from getting 31.4 and no service on 31.3, to getting 31.3 and just black screen and buzzing from 31.4. At around noon, the signal went up and both 31.3 and 31.4 came in great, and scanned into my sets and converters.

I'm guessing they were doing repairs or maintenance on the transmitter.

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i dont thank ktxd has any plains of going to metv they would be givieng up to much of a good thing they are makeing tons of money off of what they are doing right now thank about it ppl pay them to be on there ch why go to something where they are not paying
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Good news everyone.... Sometime today, ME-TV signed onto Ch. 47.1 in Dallas. It wasn't on earlier today, but around 4pm I surfed over there and "The Rockford Files" playing with Me's logo in the corner of the screen. It looks like they finally solved their equipment problems.

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Well I can do without the obnoxious 'MeTV' bug. I have to commend AntennaTV for not contaminating the image. Hopefully KTXD will submit their program info so it will show up in the TVGOS.
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Are you getting a strange aspect ratio on 47? I'm watching "Rockford Files", and while it's not 4:3 like it should be, but it's not quite 16:9 either. It looks zoomed in (the tops of their heads look cut off). I've double checked the settings on my TV. Does it look that way to you too, or is it just me?

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Are you getting a strange aspect ratio on 47? I'm watching "Rockford Files", and while it's not 4:3 like it should be, but it's not quite 16:9 either. It looks zoomed in (the tops of their heads look cut off). I've double checked the settings on my TV. Does it look that way to you too, or is it just me?

I have narrow black bars on the sides, like an in-between ratio.
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i have the black on both sides to i hope they fix it and as far as the metv bug i like it :-) am glad we got metv !!!
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I just noticed...47.1 has the strange aspect ratio and is showing it's 1080i HD, however 47.4 is also showing MeTV, and has the proper 4:3 aspect ratio and 480i SD.

I was told that they are still dealing with issues at the local level.

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I was told that they are still dealing with issues at the local level.

There's some cropping on 47-1. Nevertheless, what I presume is a new exciter must be online. Their MER has never been better. It's an invariant >36.0 dB.

I never thought they'd go with general market programming like this. I hope it works out for London.
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