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Not sure what CBS America is - Google only turned up the CBS we all know about already.

Edit: Wikipedia to the rescue - maybe. CBS may refer to the "Central Broadcasting System" of Radio Taiwan International.
Not quite. 44.3 changed their slide a bit and now includes a Web address: www.zionmediausa.com. Checking that website reveals CBS is also Korean, not Chinese. It didn't reveal what "CBS" stands for here, but it did mention helping the Korean church, so "Christian Broadcasting System" maybe? Anyway, CBS America will be the third Korean station in DFW when it goes live.

Also, it looks like Zion Media is bringing all three Korean TV stations to DFW: not only KBS America (whose logo looks like a Star Trek Starfleet logo to me) and CBS America, but also MBC America, which is already on 55.2.

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Friday night, before 12am Sat. KFWD 52-1 was showing QVC instead of SonLife. Outside of CH 4,5,8,11, I watch CH 52-1.

I checked after 12am Sat. and QVC was still on 52-1 and also is on 52-3.

Whatever the issue was, it was resolved by Sat. morning. SBN is back on 52-1.

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Hmm.... KHFD/51 went off the air around 10:30 AM Saturday. Their companion station, K26KC, is still on the air, but as usual, I can't lock it here. I can't detect anything on RF 13 so I don't think they're testing their construction permit.

OTOH, KZFW's FrankenFM signal is back. I can't get an analog video signal, but their audio comes in fine on my FM radio at 87.75 MHz.

And it looks like KVFW/38 is back to zero channels again

Edit: As of Tuesday, 5/2, KHFD/51 is back. But KZFW at 87.75 MHz is gone again. And there's still no programming on KVFW/38

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Did KNAV/22 just pop back on?

Edit: Nope. But looking at Bob's graphs, it looked like it popped on for about 30 minutes yesterday (5/4) then went back off. By the time I wrote this post it was gone again, if it was ever back on.

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KZFW's FrankenFM signal is back. I can't get an analog video signal, but their audio comes in fine on my FM radio at 87.75 MHz.

And it looks like KVFW/38 is back to zero channels again
Well, KZFW is dead again, but KVFW/38 is back - sort of, halfway. Two infomercial channels are on (only one of them with audio) and Retro is working on my DVR+ but not my iView. Rev'n is still dead though.
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KVFW didn't last long before going back to zero channels again. Not surprised, but once again disappointed

Edit: Back on tonight, May 17. Retro TV fans watch while you still can - no telling how long it'll last!

But here's something interesting: American Sports Network on KPFW channel 18.4? Right now they're showing highlights of college basketball and ice hockey games from earlier this year.

Edit: KPFW seems to have given up on their Spanish religious programming. In fact, it appears the church that owned it has turned it over to "DTV America Corporation."

Also, prior to the sale, they got a construction permit to move to a tower in Hutchins, TX with a much lower antenna height and power (4 kW ERP), which will make their signal much more challenging to receive. TVFool.com hasn't picked up the change yet, and fiddling with my antenna indicates they may still be broadcasting from downtown. But something changed Monday afternoon: Bob Nelson's graphs show he's not receiving it at all anymore, and my signal is now very weak and breaks up.

I'm puzzled by a site change at this point. They have to erect a channel 18 antenna at their new site, but they can't stay on 18 after repacking; when that happens, they'll just have to take it down and put up a new (probably VHF) antenna. Seems like a waste. But maybe they couldn't keep up the lease payments on the downtown tower and had to come up with something quick.

Anyway, if you can receive it, they now have 7 subchannels. 18.1-18.3 are all three airing the same infomercial channel; 18.4 is American Sports Network (the only one likely to be of much interest); 18.5 is a different infomercial channel; 18.6 is Shop LC, same as 34.2; and 18.7 is QVC Plus.

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But if you can receive it, they now have 7 subchannels. 18.1-18.3 are all three airing the same infomercial channel; 18.4 is American Sports Network (the only one likely to be of much interest); 18.5 is a different infomercial channel; 18.6 is Shop LC, same as 34.2; and 18.7 is QVC 2, which I think is just a delayed version of QVC (which is on both 52.3 and 55.4).
I got nuthin' RE CH 18.

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I am thinking about buying an outdoor antenna and am hoping the members here can help me out. I currently have a Mohu Curve 50 indoor antenna, but it's hit or miss, and I frequently don't get a strong signal for ABC and Fox, among others. I'm located in the Lake Highlands area, and here is a link to my TVFool report: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e6a47a033648e2. Given effectively all the channels I would watch are ~205-215 degrees from my house, my current thinking is I should buy a directional antenna, but I am obviously here for advice and so am open to suggestions. Specific brand and model suggestions are very welcome as I know very little about antennas.

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I've been able to get KERA for years, but today, when I did a re-scan (because my Samsung Flatscreen doesn't offer a "Channel Add" feature), channel 13 was not picked up. There were no storms in the area when I did the re-scan, and there were no wind issues, just a light SE wind a 5mph.

Anyone know if KERA has been or is tinkering with there signal or footprint??

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I am thinking about buying an outdoor antenna and am hoping the members here can help me out. I currently have a Mohu Curve 50 indoor antenna, but it's hit or miss, and I frequently don't get a strong signal for ABC and Fox, among others. I'm located in the Lake Highlands area, and here is a link to my TVFool report: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e6a47a033648e2. Given effectively all the channels I would watch are ~205-215 degrees from my house, my current thinking is I should buy a directional antenna, but I am obviously here for advice and so am open to suggestions. Specific brand and model suggestions are very welcome as I know very little about antennas.

Thanks everyone in advance for the help!
Your signals look pretty strong - a small outdoor antenna like an RCA ANT751 should be fine. Even a directional indoor antenna like a Terk HDTVi (no longer made but available used on eBay) would probably work. (It has rabbit ears for VHF - you'll need to use them for WFAA.)
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KVFW didn't last long before going back to zero channels again. Not surprised, but once again disappointed

Edit: Back on tonight, May 17. Retro TV fans watch while you still can - no telling how long it'll last!
As of about 12:30 PM yesterday, May 22, KVFW/38 went completely dead. No signal at all.
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Your signals look pretty strong - a small outdoor antenna like an RCA ANT751 should be fine.
Maybe. I grew up in Lake Highlands. While most homes should be OK some can be down hills in deep RF holes so you might have to do some experimenting. How is your elevation compared to the surrounding area?

Where I was, back in the '60s near Ferndale and McCree just east where the KBOX radio station used to be, on a clear night from the house rooftop I could see the Cedar Hill tower lights twinkling in the distance. Impossible now since downtown has expanded. No line-of-site anymore to aim the antenna.
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As of about 12:30 PM yesterday, May 22, KVFW/38 went completely dead. No signal at all.
May it rest in peace. Or pieces.
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Your signals look pretty strong - a small outdoor antenna like an RCA ANT751 should be fine. Even a directional indoor antenna like a Terk HDTVi (no longer made but available used on eBay) would probably work. (It has rabbit ears for VHF - you'll need to use them for WFAA.)
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Maybe. I grew up in Lake Highlands. While most homes should be OK some can be down hills in deep RF holes so you might have to do some experimenting. How is your elevation compared to the surrounding area?

Where I was, back in the '60s near Ferndale and McCree just east where the KBOX radio station used to be, on a clear night from the house rooftop I could see the Cedar Hill tower lights twinkling in the distance. Impossible now since downtown has expanded. No line-of-site anymore to aim the antenna.
My elevation should be ok - I'm not at the bottom of a hill or anything like that. That said, something (nearby houses, trees?) clearly is preventing me from getting a good signal from the indoor antenna I have now.

Generally speaking, is there much difference in quality between the different brands of antennas? I've done some searching online and found several brands, but I haven't found any real way to differentiate between them.

Lastly, would you recommend using an amplifier with an outdoor antenna?

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To take your last question first, I wouldn't recommend an amp unless you're splitting the signal from the antenna something like 8 ways, and/or unless you need a very long cable run from your antenna to your TV(s), like 30 meters (100 feet) or so. Otherwise, your signals look strong enough that an amp would probably do more harm than good.

You probably just need to get an antenna up high enough to get "cleaner" signals with fewer reflections from ground clutter.

In general, I don't think antenna brands are hugely different from each other. There are some differences, but there's more difference within brands than between them.
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Generally speaking, is there much difference in quality between the different brands of antennas? I've done some searching online and found several brands, but I haven't found any real way to differentiate between them.

Lastly, would you recommend using an amplifier with an outdoor antenna?

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There can be differences in antenna design. From my own experience with several antennas I would suggest a Channel Master antenna, a CM 3018 should do it. It utilizes the folded dipole UHF driven element design. The old RadioShack-AntennaCraft antennas had that too. One of those flat outperformed a similar sized Winegard antenna with a simple dipole driven element. As to an amplifier should not be necessary unless you are distributing the signal to multiple sets through the house. I use one to make up for the loss in 70 ft of coax cable between my antenna located in the attic of my detached garage, and my house.
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... RF 22 (currently KNAV) will be available on the Dallas side of the metroplex (KUVN-CA only covers downtown Ft. Worth). KNAV is an interesting case: their analog facility broadcasts toward Dallas, so it could stay without interfering with the new KUVN-CA assignment, but it's apparently already shut down. Even if it came back on, it'd have to switch to digital.

KNAV does have a CP for a new digital facility, but that one would interfere with KUVN-CA, so it's out the window too. So I'm sticking with my original prediction that they dust off their old proposal to move to RF 12 with a pattern that avoids interference with KXII.

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RF 22: becomes KWDA in Dallas, KUVN-CA in FW
KNAV has filed to modify the CP described above. The modified CP retains the digital transmitter, but uses their existing antenna. I couldn't find an interference study in KNAV's application, but the radiation pattern of their existing antenna should avoid interference with both KUVN-CA (when the latter moves to RF 22 as part of the spectrum repack) and KETK in Tyler.

So it looks like KNAV is planning to stay on RF 22 after all; they're just trimming back how much of the metroplex they'll cover.
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May it rest in peace. Or pieces.
Surprisingly, KVFW popped back on very briefly at 7:17 this AM, then it was gone again. If you blinked, you missed it. And the only reason I know that is that one of Bob Nelson's channel scans caught it in the act. (I certainly wasn't scanning the TV airwaves that early!)
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I apologize if this is a dumb question. I know very little about HOW sub-channels are actually bundled/transmitted and I'm trying to track down a problem.

I'm getting break up in sound on 33-2 but 33-1 is rock solid. IF all sub-channels are just "data packets in the same stream" then that would tell me it's a broadcast issue and not a reception issue.

Are sub-channels individual broadcast streams where one sub-channel can have issues and the others not??? I guess I always thought if you received one sub-channel you got them all equally, same power, same everything

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