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post #4021 of 4045 Old 04-21-2016, 03:59 AM
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When I key in 29.3 it just stays on whatever channel is currently tuned. Samsung LN32D450G1D.
Ok, then it's just my TV being flaky - apparently Sony didn't plan on stations with gaps in their subchannel numbering.

Anybody have any clue where channel 10.3 is coming from?
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1. WCAU 10 is coming up with 3 subchannels. The third of these, 10.3 is new, is labeled WCAU-DT in the PSIP, is virtually identical to 10.1. However, it is NOT on RF channel 34 as are 10.1 and 10.2, but rather on RF 49. According to rabbitears, the nearest two stations on RF 49 are WWSI in Atlantic City (which comes in as PSIP channel 62 and is two subchannels of Spanish language programming), and W49BE in Hackettstown (which would come in as PSIP channel 52 if I could receive it, but I can't). So it can't be emanating from either of those stations. So what is this new and mysterious phantom WCAU-DT 10.3???
Sounds like they're doing the same thing they do in San Francisco. In San Francisco, the NBC signal on Mount San Bruno broadcasts 11-1, 11-2, and 48-3, while the Telemundo signal on Mount Allison broadcasts 48-1, 48-2, and 11-3. This allows people who have trouble with one signal or the other, since they're not co-located, to be able to receive the missing programming. Given the loss of WMGM as an NBC affiliate, this doesn't seem unreasonable. Keep an eye out in case a 62-3 pops up on WCAU. I've updated RabbitEars under this assumption.

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2. WTXF 29 is coming up with 3 subchannels, 29.1, 29.2 and 29.4. Rabbitears indeed reflects this new gap. However, if I manually tune to 29.3, up pops GetTV. But now, once I do that, 29.1 through 29.4 become identical to WUVP 65, and WTXF (FOX 29) is just GONE! The only way to restore WTXF is to ask the TV to scan for new digital channels, after which it will restore WTXF in the 29.1, 29.2, and 29.4 positions. I need to carefully avoid punching in 29.3 because doing so will once again lose me all of WTXF, replacing it with WUVP's 4 subchannels of programming. It seems that WTXF needs to fill in that gap to prevent this odd behavior. Thoughts?
Definitely flakiness in your receiver, as others have clarified. Sony receivers have always been strange about PSIP, in my experience.

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Keep an eye out in case a 62-3 pops up on WCAU.
It just did:
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Well this has the unfortunate effect of forcing WCAU to broadcast two HD subchannels simultaneously (as WPVI now does with Live Well), eating into the bit rate for the main-market channel and reducing it's PQ. I think OTA TV is headed down the slippery slope of cable TV... lots and lots of low quality channels, not at all what the HDTV initiative was all about.
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Well this has the unfortunate effect of forcing WCAU to broadcast two HD subchannels simultaneously (as WPVI now does with Live Well), eating into the bit rate for the main-market channel and reducing it's PQ.
If 10.3 is transmitted on RF 49 there shouldn't be any bit rate loss to 10.1 and 10.2 since they are on RF 34.
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If 10.3 is transmitted on RF 49 there shouldn't be any bit rate loss to 10.1 and 10.2 since they are on RF 34.
No Ken, I was commenting on 62.3 (an HD channel) being transmitted on RF 34 along with 10.1 (also an HD channel). Not being a Spanish speaker, I don't give a hoot about the picture quality on RF 49.

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No Ken, I was commenting on 62.3...
Sorry, I thought you were still talking about 10.3.
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WCAU 10 is coming up with 3 subchannels. The third of these, 10.3 is new, is labeled WCAU-DT in the PSIP, is virtually identical to 10.1. However, it is NOT on RF channel 34 as are 10.1 and 10.2, but rather on RF 49.
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It definitely improves Telemundo's reach out here to Chester county, Berks & MD. Many Spanish communities there.
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Guys, I just got my home theater set up and, as a cord cutter, I picked up the new TiVo Roamio and a Mohu Sky antenna. However, all attempts to get a signal strength above 45 (of 100) has failed. Spent hours adjusting the antenna with no luck. My backyard is overrun with Oak trees which isn't helping.

Is there a place to call (I'm in South Jersey) to have a pro come out and check signal strength and possibly install the best antenna for our needs? If so, who?

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Antennas such as that are not particularly good.
Do you have access to an attic? Running the cable is the only pita, for which you might want an electrician.
If you need to mount it outside, you'll probably want expert help.
Make sure the antenna can get both high and low vhf (otherwise you'll never get Ch. 6), and aim it at Roxborough.
Something from here would do the trick:
https://www.antennasdirect.com/store/attic.html
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Last, thanks for the input. Just a bit before you replied I had found the site you mentioned and actually did order a different antenna. I'll be trying this guy in a few days (with a VHF kit applied):

https://www.antennasdirect.com/store...V-Antenna.html

We'll see if that makes a dent.

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I will say, I'm not having the best experience with Antennas Direct. I could have ordered on Amazon from them and had the antennas already. Instead, they charged me and all they can tell me is "it processed". They have NO way to tell me where the antenna is and it hasn't yet gotten to FedEx. What the heck is that BS? They claimed they'd ship it on Tuesday and now it's Thursday which means I likely won't have it for the weekend now.
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You should have it by now. Did it work?
BTW, their shipping information clearly states 5 to 7 working days.
We've all gotten spoiled by next day, haven't we.

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It arrived two days ago and I assembled it yesterday. It goes up on the roof tomorrow, so we'll know the deal then! I have high hopes.
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Our collective fingers are crossed.
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It arrived two days ago and I assembled it yesterday. It goes up on the roof tomorrow, so we'll know the deal then! I have high hopes.
Be very patient when aiming the antenna (perhaps you have a rotator, which will make that MUCH easier). Even though you may have a theoretical magnetic bearing to Roxborough, a few degrees this way and that can make a world of difference if you have multi-path problems. The voice of experience.

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It's in and with very little need for adjustment it's already way beyond the Mohu Sky antenna. The problematic ABC, which was only getting a 37 is at 67-72. Most everything is in the upper 70s or beyond. Incredible.
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Can anyone else check WPVI tonight and see if your reception is working? I'm getting 100% Signal Strength, but only 40% Signal Quality and 0% Symbol quality. I can usually receive this channel with no problems. Other channels are coming in as normal (watching Copa America at the moment).

Anyknow know the best way to contact the station engineers at this time of night?
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Hey guys - About to cut the cord. Wondering if someone can recommend a good attic antenna that will pick up hi/lo band VHF and UHF and won't break the bank? From my cursory research, it seems WPVI is a low band station, and I want to be able to receive it.

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I get WPVI with a UHF only antenna (Winegard Square Shooter) in zip 19425. At the bottom of a shallow valley.

It's mounted outdoors up high. However, I've never gotten WHYY, which I think is nearly an impossible get in northern Chester County.
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I get WPVI with a UHF only antenna (Winegard Square Shooter) in zip 19425. At the bottom of a shallow valley.

It's mounted outdoors up high. However, I've never gotten WHYY, which I think is nearly an impossible get in northern Chester County.
Thanks for your input. I didn't even know that it was possible to receive a VHF signal on a UHF only antenna. I guess I have lots to learn.

I'm in 19020, about 17 miles from the major station antennas in BC.

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Hey guys - About to cut the cord. Wondering if someone can recommend a good attic antenna that will pick up hi/lo band VHF and UHF and won't break the bank? From my cursory research, it seems WPVI is a low band station, and I want to be able to receive it.

Thanks!

I'm in Quakertown and am receiving 56 stations including WPVI on a RCA ANT751R with a RCA TVPRAMP1R Preamplifier. The antenna is installed in the attic. The antenna was around $45 when I bought it and the preamp was $25. I did a little research (TVFOOL) and just bought the minimum equipment hoping it would work. I "cut the cord" about 3 years ago. When I bought the antenna, I wasn't expecting much for a $45 antenna but it worked well.

I added the preamp a couple of weeks after I put the antenna up and was able to watch 2.1 KJWP (METV) from Wilmington.
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Can anyone else check WPVI tonight and see if your reception is working? I'm getting 100% Signal Strength, but only 40% Signal Quality and 0% Symbol quality. I can usually receive this channel with no problems. Other channels are coming in as normal (watching Copa America at the moment).

Anyknow know the best way to contact the station engineers at this time of night?
Since the storms this morning I'm having issues too. Antenna looks to be in teh same spot. Everything else is ok but channel 6 is a mess. Mine reads 40% as well.

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Since the storms this morning I'm having issues too. Antenna looks to be in teh same spot. Everything else is ok but channel 6 is a mess. Mine reads 40% as well.
WPVI looking normal here in Lower Bucks this evening.
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