Originally Posted by dvwtwo
Nonsense. There are loads of Boston fans in Litchfield County, it's within NESN territory, and rival cable companies serving Litchfield offer it. (The silly "territory" distinctions in pro sports TV rights are a joke to begin with.) Litchfield is not a NYC suburb like Fairfield and it's rotten to treat it as such. Tell somebody in Canaan or Cornwall that they're Metro NYC - I suspect they'll politely tell you otherwise. Charter's being lazy as usual and it's disgraceful.
I guess that might be the Lictchfield County nearer MA, but then again, there are loads of Cowboys, Lakers and formerly Bulls and 49ers fans as well, but those are out of market teams just like Boston.
NESN does not have a 'territory,' as no part of CT is in a Boston metro region period! This is why NESN and NECN can only break into CT cable systems via Comcast's big bank account. Comcasy created something called "Comcast New England" in which they direct CT (all) toward Boston and surrounding states for customer service.
When I was in New Haven I used to get angry because they used to broadcast the CT network over the NYC ones when they both showed the same programming. COmcast used to lie and say that they did not or that it came from WABC, but I knew that they were lying. The CT channels (allegedly local with a Boston/New England angle, although they call themselves CT news!) have first dibbs on cable systems as part of the 'must-carry' rule where 'local' stations (in CT's case - in-state) must be carried on cable systems even if said systems wanted to exclude them.
CT is unique (I think). It is claimed by Boston (as New England and they want the WHOLE state!), but we are not in the Boston are of any kind! There is no New England DMA (TV market) so we do not have to have Boston stations. CT has it's own TV stations which do not really have the whole state as theirs, but seeing that no other part of the state is a part of an external metro region or TV market (except NYC), the so-called Hartford/New Haven get's CT.
Now, CT is a part of Metro NYC which also includes NJ. Fairfield County is the declared territory (this is real to NYC as opposed to Boston's pride/superficial claims to CT!) in CT for NYC. New Haven and Litchfield are more or less affiliates with New Haven basically NY territory as it is on the Metro-North line. New Haven County also get's Cablevision - a NYC area-only cable system, that Comcast keeps trying to buy.
So CT is it's own market with the Hartford/New Haven (NH is only used because it is the only non-Hartford area state-wide TV station) market and the New York City market, which is the nation's largest market. Boston is out-of-market as well as it's teams. I do not care who likes what teams at the moment, they are not OUR teams, only the NY/NJ teams are ours.
Litchfield is widley considered a NYC suburb, but it is not on the Metro-North line (which kind of says it is NYC) and it is not in the NYC TV market, but it does have a lot of celebrities who live there as it is close by. Litchfield is probably in the Hartford/NH DMA because Hartford county is right next door. The Hartford/NH DMA DOES NOT include Boston or any part of MA, but many of the Hartford area "news" channels make mention of "New England" (they are not a New England news channel, they are CT as they advertise), they talk about MA towns as local to all of CT, they report on Boston sports as local and they of course block out NYC, the Tri-state area and any mention of CT being in metro NYC. They make the invalid assertion (through subjective news) that CT is some how a part of Metro Boston as a state being 'trapped' between NYC and Boston. We are ONLY in metro NYC, not metro Boston.
NESN, NECN and any other Boston related cable channel disguised as a "New England" channel exists only to expand Boston's market. This is why these are cable channels only as CT cannot pull Boston channel of-air as we can NYC channels. NESN and NECN have forced their way onto CT cbale systems with the claim that they provide as 'regional service.' It went unopposed as no one knew about the. So this is why, if you ever wondered, why no one watches or is even aware of NECN but it is still on your cable, this is why. Any other channel would have been off with low viewership like theirs.
I know I am long on this, but I feel it is important for people to know. I used to live in New Haven and in the 80 and 90's, Comcast was Storor Cable. We did get Boston WSBK (38) and some other Boston area channel. once the must-carry rule came into effect, the Boston channels would get blacked out so much that they eventually deleted those channels. WSBK would show Celtics games. So in New Haven, all things Boston got blocked out but all things CT and NYC remained.
Now - enter Comcast. As stated, Boston hates NYC. They hate CT because we are in metro NYC and they hate that! How do I know? Just look at them. I would call up Comcast about the channels and most people would be from a New England state (not CT) they would be shocked that we would get NYC channels. When Brett Farve made his Jets debut, Comcast (I feel a conspiracy) put WFSB on WCBS so we could not see the game! WFSB shows the Patriots, which I do not mind because we see more games without paying! Those Comcast CS reps would get angry that I demanded my NYC stations stay on when they were on.
Lastly (hopefully), Comcast New Haven had begun a terror campaign to start blacking out WABC NY INSTEAD of showing WTNH on top of it! As my example of WSBK showed, it may eventually lead to Comcast pulling WABC from New Haven, as they and WTNH would like. How do I know? New Haven used to get WNYW (5) since I could recall (I am 39) and a couple of years ago, Comcast New Haven pulled WNYW from New Haven. I called and asked why and they acted as if they never heard of the channel! I did an internet search and realized that WTIC (61) asked Comcast to pull it since it is not in the Hartford/New Haven DMA (TV market)! This is why WTIC re-branded itself "Fox CT" since they clearly felt threatened by channel 5 and the power of NYC.
Because of pulling channel 5, we could not even see the Giants game (that normally would have seen) during the time that Dick Blumenthal tried to get the NFL to show it to the whole state. That made me mad! Channel 61 had no business worrying about what we watch in New Haven because they (Hartford) cannot even get channel 5, so why worry or feel threatened by them? I wrote channel 5 and they told me their hands were tied and I can pull it off-air. So I have crossed out WTIC for good.
Now I am in Danbury (sadly, Comcast), but now I am in the NYC proper market and those Hartford stations cannot pull anything at all! Their stations are in SD while the NYC stations are in HD. I have my long-lost channel 5 back and my even longer lost channel 9 (the REAL one) back! Oh yeah, channel 8 developed their fake channel 9 in order to get WWOR pulled from Comcast as a competing channel. If you know the history of WTNH's channel 9, then you know that that was by design.
It feels good to be in the actual NYC market without worry from Hartford stations who cannot compete without dirty tricks. I need to write the NYC stations (5 in particular) to have them pull 61! So, CT is only in the NYC market - the largest. Even if Fairfield County is the only undisputed, official county in the state in the NYC market, that alone makes it bigger than Hartford-New Haven. If we are ever to have sports teams, it would have to be because of that market - not Hartford.