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post #8521 of 8535 Old 01-21-2015, 07:25 PM
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WTF, there is a 1080i KUSA 9 (9-4) feed riding on the channel 20 (RF19) signal. Channel 20 is now 720p (highly compressed). Here in Monument, I get channel 9 as good or better than channel 20 (RF19). Okay, in the city there may be a major difference, but I've always been able to receive high VHF, as well, or better, than UHF.

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Five month "The Binge" schedule for "Decades" (KCNC 4-2). That is if they actually get it running anytime soon.

http://www.decades.com/file/DECADES_BINGE_Calendar.pdf

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Five month "The Binge" schedule for "Decades" (KCNC 4-2). That is if they actually get it running anytime soon.

http://www.decades.com/file/DECADES_BINGE_Calendar.pdf

Decades, CBS4 Sub-Channel, Debuts This Friday
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/01/2...s-this-friday/
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Decades, CBS4 Sub-Channel, Debuts This Friday
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/01/2...s-this-friday/

I feel that it will beat the current MeTV for picture quality! Please everyone, contact KUSA/KTVD and tell them to fix MeTV/My20. 480i widescreen for 9-4, high quality 720p for My20, and high quality 480i for MeTV. Please, don't waste broadcast spectrum!!! If not, Decades on KCNC looks like an awesome alternative!!!

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Note that MyNetwork is distributed in 720p so KTVD was always transcoding it to 1080i.

However it's now horrifically compressed to make room for the new duplicate KUSA signal mapped to 9-4.

The programming on Decades so far looks much better than what was shown on Me or Antenna.

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"9NEWS has been "tinkering under the hood" with our digital signal. Actually, our team of engineers has been working with new technology to improve both the strength and quality of the 9NEWS signal for those who may have had a tough time watching us with their antenna. These improvements are through the testing phase and are ready for our viewers to enjoy. But you have to rescan to get those
benefits."

Now if only KMGH-DT 7 would do the same thing.

An earlier post mentioned that KMGH ran a little more power than KUSA. I can only see KMGH ONLY through the DVD Tuner. The Panasonic "Vieria" (50" plasma) "sees" KMGH at an 88% signal level but is unable to display the picture because the unit instead displays "poor signal quality." SUX!
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An earlier post mentioned that KMGH ran a little more power than KUSA. I can only see KMGH [I
ONLY[/I] through the DVD Tuner. The Panasonic "Vieria" (50" plasma) "sees" KMGH at an 88% signal level but is unable to display the picture because the unit instead displays "poor signal quality." SUX!
Have you tried a rescan? I have seen the same thing on my 42" Panny Vieria with some channels and a rescan usually fixes that.
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[QUOTE=Smoke Talker;31208977]"9NEWS has been "tinkering under the hood" with our digital signal. Actually, our team of engineers has been working with new technology to improve both the strength and quality of the 9NEWS signal for those who may have had a tough time watching us with their antenna. These improvements are through the testing phase and are ready for our viewers to enjoy. But you have to rescan to get those
benefits."

Now if only KMGH-DT 7 would do the same thing.[QUOTE]


The beauty of what KUSA did was add the 9.1 (RF9.1) ATSC program stream as a minor (sub) channel to their full maximum legal power 1000kW sister station KTVD 20 (RF19) with its PSIP coding as 9.4. It's similar to what KMGH did years ago with their sister station KZCO. The big difference is KZCO is a low power station (15kW on RF17 vs KTVD's 1000kW on RF 19) so KMGH can not achieve the signal penetration compared to what KUSA/KTVD have just done.


Also of note, my TVs are showing 9.4 as 1080i when it is actually 720p. The TVs are apparently referencing the major channel (V9) PSIP info rather than the 9.4 minor channel PSIP info for the encoding format.
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The beauty of what KUSA did was add the 9.1 (RF9.1) ATSC program stream as a minor (sub) channel to their full maximum legal power 1000kW sister station KTVD 20 (RF19) with its PSIP coding as 9.4. It's similar to what KMGH did years ago with their sister station KZCO. The big difference is KZCO is a low power station (15kW on RF17 vs KTVD's 1000kW on RF 19) so KMGH can not achieve the signal penetration compared to what KUSA/KTVD have just done.


Also of note, my TVs are showing 9.4 as 1080i when it is actually 720p. The TVs are apparently referencing the major channel (V9) PSIP info rather than the 9.4 minor channel PSIP info for the encoding format.

I have since had a chance to check the KTVD PSIP data in the transport stream and found that the V9.4 (RF 19.5) stream is shown as 1920x1080i/29.97 in the PSIP info even though it is encoded as 1280x720p/59.94. Also, the program on at the time on V9.4 was averaging around 10.5 Mbps essentially making V20.1 (RF19.3) non-HD with its much lower bit rate/resolution.
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I have since had a chance to check the KTVD PSIP data in the transport stream and found that the V9.4 (RF 19.5) stream is shown as 1920x1080i/29.97 in the PSIP info even though it is encoded as 1280x720p/59.94. Also, the program on at the time on V9.4 was averaging around 10.5 Mbps essentially making V20.1 (RF19.3) non-HD with its much lower bit rate/resolution.
I wonder if any of that is going to change after the Super Bowl. They are certainly hyping the Super Bowl with the "Super Scan." MeTV has been watchable for the last couple days. Better than the constant contrail of compression artifacts that it was. My eye judgment places it at about the level of Antenna TV for compression at this point. It's interesting that they would show 1080i in the PSIP when it's 720p, but maybe that is why MeTV is watchable now.

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No more f--kin' subchannels and bump the bitrate back up!!!!!!!!!! How about that???

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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I have friends living in Denver I hope they are able to pick up KHDT 16.1, they can't get K05MD which seems to be in Cripple creek. KHDT will be adding RTV
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No more f--kin' subchannels and bump the bitrate back up!!!!!!!!!! How about that???

Or, the FCC could just sell off the entire TV band to the cell phone companies!!! Your comments have shown a total ignorance of the political realities. "Channel Sharing" is what the FCC wants TV stations to do. So the questions is, do you want OTA TV or not??? What you seem to want is for the FCC to come in, shut all the TV stations down, and sell the frequencies to the cell phone companies!!!

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I have friends living in Denver I hope they are able to pick up KHDT 16.1, they can't get K05MD which seems to be in Cripple creek. KHDT will be adding RTV
Thanks for the info. That's good to know. I used to love Retro TV when we had it a few years ago. Unfortunately, I don't receive channel 16 reliably at the moment. I guess I'll have to try to tweak my indoor antenna setup to see if I can improve my reception.
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Or, the FCC could just sell off the entire TV band to the cell phone companies!!! Your comments have shown a total ignorance of the political realities. "Channel Sharing" is what the FCC wants TV stations to do. So the questions is, do you want OTA TV or not??? What you seem to want is for the FCC to come in, shut all the TV stations down, and sell the frequencies to the cell phone companies!!!
What good is OTA HD if it looks terrible? I ask you that. It's almost as if the FCC yahoos destroyed it on purpose rather than allocate enough bandwidth for a high caliber HD station and a couple sub channels.

Once UHD takes off, antenna delivery will be a pretty moot point in the U.S. anyway unless they clean up their act and have a much wider band for each channel.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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