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post #271 of 13037 Old 01-27-2007, 09:35 PM
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Chuck, Are you saying that if a program is not HD channel 784 shows nothing? And, that you would prefer they at least show SD on 784 with the side bars?

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post #272 of 13037 Old 01-27-2007, 09:40 PM
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[quote=Scott Tucker]Chuck, Are you saying that if a program is not HD channel 784 shows nothing? And, that you would prefer they at least show SD on 784 with the side bars?

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Since CHarter and Belo are having their standoff Charter channel 784 is not broadcasting, you are probably aware of this. I am suggesting that in the mean time until they get this settled, a SD picture on channel 784 is better than the lower quality picture on regular channel 4. It's not HD, but its better than regular channel 4.
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OK, now I get it Chuck. I did not know 784 was CBS HD. I can't answer you question even though I now understand what your asking. Sorry.

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Since CHarter and Belo are having their standoff Charter channel 784 is not broadcasting, you are probably aware of this. I am suggesting that in the mean time until they get this settled, a SD picture on channel 784 is better than the lower quality picture on regular channel 4. It's not HD, but its better than regular channel 4.

When you tune your digital cable box to channel 4 you are receiving a digital signal. It it the best quality signal Charter can currently offer for KMOV. It is SD, but it's not analog. It is digital (QAM).

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Unfortunately I have not been playing much. The last few times I played were in and around O'Fallon, MO. I don't have a regular course. Where do you play?

Nice to see CBS doing todays Buick Invitational in HD. Golf is one of those sports that really benefits from HD.

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Can't go wrong with the Golf Club Of Wentzville....I agree on the golf in HD. Now if we could just get Kelly Tilghman in HD life would be good.
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Is there any way to hook up three tv's so you can access recorded programs from all three? I have a moxibox and moximate, but my wife would like to access programs from a third tv. Is this possible?

See my post here...http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9606300

Let me know if you have any questions
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Scott,
Question unrelated to the current topic....
IIRC, you're getting the STL DT's via SAT on DTV, yes?
Does DTV keep the SD locals available once you get the DT's over SAT, or once they spot a DT local does it replace the SD?
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When you tune your digital cable box to channel 4 you are receiving a digital signal. It it the best quality signal Charter can currently offer for KMOV. It is SD, but it's not analog. It is digital (QAM).

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I'm confused...go figure
Does this go back to the incorrect use of SD and HD? In that, all HD must be DT, but not all DT is HD. shouldn't he correct references be AT/DT and SD/HD
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Now I'm getting confused too

My main point was that any signal Charter could currently provide on 784 would be no better that what they currently provide on 4. 480i QAM delivery of the source material (presumably provided by KMOV via a studio link).

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If charter broadcasts it on 4 or 784 it will look the same. QAM digital feed.

If you want a cheap alternative and your HDTV has an ATSC tuner built in. Get yourself an antenna so you can receive all the local HD over the air!
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I did a search and it seems that the hr 20 does not work to well is this right should people be waiting to go to direct tv because of this?If I cant get the hr 20 to record the young and restless everyday my wife might end my life and does the ota work and will it record ota I am still up in the air on keeping charter and getting direct tv.Directs promotion ends in a few days and I know there will be a new one but it might not be as good.
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Question unrelated to the current topic....
IIRC, you're getting the STL DT's via SAT on DTV, yes?
Does DTV keep the SD locals available once you get the DT's over SAT, or once they spot a DT local does it replace the SD?

Ken,
I get the locals in SD via D*, but for DTV I use OTA. I don't have mpeg 4 yet.

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I did a search and it seems that the hr 20 does not work to well is this right should people be waiting to go to direct tv because of this?If I cant get the hr 20 to record the young and restless everyday my wife might end my life and does the ota work and will it record ota I am still up in the air on keeping charter and getting direct tv.Directs promotion ends in a few days and I know there will be a new one but it might not be as good.

The whole idea of having the HR20 is so you don't need a OTA antenna. Yes, she will be able to record TYATR and in HD.

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Can't go wrong with the Golf Club Of Wentzville....I agree on the golf in HD. Now if we could just get Kelly Tilghman in HD life would be good.

Yeah, getting The Golf Channel and Kelly in HD will be sweet!

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I know but I want the ota as a backup just in case because I want to live to play golf again.
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LOL, wow, she is hardcore huh? Wmschultz will be able to chime in and answer the question for you. Bill, can Chazb get OTA from the HR20?

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For those that have cancelled charter and have all three services internet ,phone and tv and you choose to keep the internet and phone what kind of hit have you taken in pricing or can you still get a deal.

If you choose to go with D* and complain about no package for phone/Internet, they should give you a few dollars off. I am getting $10 a month off my bill for a year. E* may be persuaded as well.

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LOL, wow, she is hardcore huh? Wmschultz will be able to chime in and answer the question for you. Bill, can Chazb get OTA from the HR20?

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OTA for the H20 is enabled now Scott.

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Chazb, as Mo stated above and I confirmed on DBS Talk.com that you can use OTA via the HR20. So, we may get to play some golf after all come spring.

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FYI,

Ever since I got the 6.3b update, I have yet to have any audio or video drop outs. Also, audio/video sync seems to be better. I am loving life again at least until I'm forced to go Mpeg4.

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Ever since I got the 6.3b update, I have yet to have any audio or video drop outs. Also, audio/video sync seems to be better. I am loving life again at least until I'm forced to go Mpeg4.

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I forgot about brief video drops. Now that you mention it Scott, I no longer have those either. No audio drops since getting 6.3b for me as well.

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BTW, anyone know why HR10-250's are selling for so freakin' much on Ebay? Some used ones are bringing $400 plus. I've seen NIB ones bring over $900. What gives?

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Chazb,

Let's take this to PM.

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Hey now,
If there's going to be a STL HDTV Golf outing I wanna be included...

Favorite courses are Tapawingo, Bear Creek and Links @ Dardenne.
Place to play on crappy days... Riverside (very cheap)

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Chuck,
If charter broadcasts it on 4 or 784 it will look the same. QAM digital feed.
If you want a cheap alternative and your HDTV has an ATSC tuner built in. Get yourself an antenna so you can receive all the local HD over the air!

If Charter were to broadcast 4 on 784 I think it would look BETTER than the same old QAM feed. They would have to scale it to fit the 16:9 ratio and would probably send out 480p not 480i. I don't know about you guys but I am sure that Charter's scaler is a lot better than mine.

OTA is still the best picture. I have done A/B with Charter and D* but not E* in every case OTA was better even to these old eyes.

I play at Spence T Olen, Fox Creek, Far Oaks, and Stonewolf. Did all you golfers get the free (cart fee) round at Stonewolf for signing up on their website? How about a St. Lous AVS golf tournament. It would be the fastest way to get to know people.

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Dave,

I was just thinking the same thing. We should have a Golf/Home Theater meet. Play golf in the PM watch a flick or two in the PM. Sounds like lots of fun. Who's in?

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Walt, looks like were all starting to think the same way. We need to get something going come spring.

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If you choose to go with D* and complain about no package for phone/Internet, they should give you a few dollars off. I am getting $10 a month off my bill for a year. E* may be persuaded as well.

Alright. I know this is a really stupid question that everyone knows the answer to but me but oh well here it goes...........

Why does everyone blockout the names of the companies?? D*, E*, C* etc

PS. Please don't attack

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Alright. I know this is a really stupid question that everyone knows the answer to but me but oh well here it goes...........

Why does everyone blockout the names of the companies?? D*, E*, C* etc

PS. Please don't attack

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What a stupid question! Just kidding, because it's quicker? Not really sure. Maybe because one person did it and the rest of us are sheep.

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If Charter were to broadcast 4 on 784 I think it would look BETTER than the same old QAM feed. They would have to scale it to fit the 16:9 ratio and would probably send out 480p not 480i. I don't know about you guys but I am sure that Charter's scaler is a lot better than mine.

Agreed. My point was that its SD. And that OTA is a good option.

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How about a St. Lous AVS golf tournament. It would be the fastest way to get to know people.

Now this sounds like a great idea. I like Tapawingo also. The only problem is that I am a horrific golfer so if you folks are hard core then I might be makin' some enemies. Otherwise if you can stand me....count me in!!
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What a stupid question! Just kidding, because it's quicker? Not really sure. Maybe because one person did it and the rest of us are sheep.

Scott

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