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post #13201 of 13207 Old 07-19-2015, 03:24 PM
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I suspect it's because of the pitifully low bitrate KMOV is using.

I still have recordings of CSI and CSI Miami from several years back. Without commercials, those episodes took up about 5.9GB of space each on my hard drive and had bitrates of well over 15mbps.

New episodes of Zoo only take up about 3.2 to 3.5GB, and the bitrate is often barely over 10mbps. For a "1080i high definition broadcast." Well hey KMOV, guess what? That's the same maximum bitrate that 480p STANDARD DVD'S USE!

Oddly, kSDk's bitrates aren't much better. American Odyssey episodes also take up about 3.5GB each, but they're doing something (relatively) right because American Odyssey and Aquarius episodes consistently look better than Zoo and Under the Dome episodes.

Of course I realize that's setting the bar pretty low.

BTW, KTVI and KPLR, which "only" have 1 extra subchannel each, nowadays look much better than either kSDk or KMOV. Arrow episodes on KPLR have bitrates of 12-13mbps and the file sizes are usually around 4.4GB, not as nice as KMOV used to be but much nicer than KMOV is now. KTVI Wayward Pines episodes are about 4.2GB each.

I haven't watched or recorded anything on ABC lately, so can't comment on KDNL.
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I knew these movie subchannels had lots of commercials, but holy crap!

I finally got around to editing the commercials out of 30-3 Grit TV's broadcast of "Armored Attack," a 1943 war movie in a 2-hour time slot. Without commercials, it was only 75 minutes. That's 45 minutes of commercials in a 2 hour slot, or 22 and a half minutes of commercials per hour. Which means only 37 and a half minutes of program per hour.

Silly me for thinking an 82-minute movie in a 2 hour time slot would be relatively uncut.

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On the positive side, it certainly can't take up much disk space.
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The first subchannel network I had any experience with was TheCoolTV, and I was taken aback by the sheer number of ads. Seems that's how they manage to make their money.
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Except TheCoolTV didn't make any money... or at least didn't pay the stations for carrying the broadcasts.

Yeah, I can't stand watching anything on any of the diginets without DVRing it so the commercials can be skipped.
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Perhaps the thought process of the broadcasters goes something like this:

"Most OTA viewers are too poor or too cheap to pay for Cable or Satellite. So if they want to view events for free, we're gonna STICK it to them with endless commercials. So, who cares if we have to cut content out of a program or if the primary HD channel quality suffers. They're getting what they pay for....." Hail, hail the almighty dollar!
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On the positive side, it certainly can't take up much disk space.
You got THAT right! The movie in question, Armored Attack, ran 75 minutes after removing commercials (should have run 82, which triggered my rant above in the first place) and takes a whopping 1.59GB of disk space.

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