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post #13831 of 14082 Old 09-02-2014, 07:13 PM - Thread Starter
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WUTB 24.2 is now blank, but the identifier is still holding that sub-channel's place.
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I am having reception difficulties with WUSA just during the day: ~ 12PM - 5PM. I am about 50 miles away in southern Stafford County with an AntennaCraft Y5-7-13 VHF antenna in my attic. My HDHomerun always reports > 90% signal strength and signal quality but when I am having troubles the symbol quality mostly stays below 50%. I have no problems with Primetime tuning on WUSA and no problems with any of the other channels. I just bought a new HDHomerun (to compare to the original version) to see if a supposedly better tuner would help but it has the same problem. Anyone else have this problem or know what might be causing "interference" during the day? Thanks.
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Hey guys,

Thank God I found a forum that can help me with my problem. I am originally from Northern Virginia (Redskins fan ) I moved to Maryland but I think I am pretty far to catch the redskins games on Fox 5 (WTTG Fox HD) or abc 7(WJLA -ABC HD).

So I think there are a couple of people in my same situtation and I can see that you are catching the games with no problems.
I have done some research and visited antennaweb.org

According to them in order to see WTTG-DT 5.1 FOX RF Channel: 36 which is 28 miles at 227 degrees I need to get a large directional antenna with a preamp to reach the violet areas.

Now my big question is which antenna should I get?

I don't think I can install it on my roof because of my strict HOA committee but thankfully I have an attic that I can mount it too. Couple of questions for you guys if you don't mind.

1. Based on your experience, what is a good antenna that can help me. I live in Halethorpe, MD 21227 trying to get to FOX 5 WTTG about 28 miles away.

2. What is a good preamp for this antenna.

3. I will setup this on my attic, you think it will be ok?

4. I'm sure that an antenna might be the only way, but is there a website or other cheap service that can help me watch the redskins games on the fox, abc and nbc stations for Washington, DC?


Thanks a million guys. I really appreciate your feedback and help.
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Hey guys,

Thank God I found a forum that can help me with my problem. I am originally from Northern Virginia (Redskins fan ) I moved to Maryland but I think I am pretty far to catch the redskins games on Fox 5 (WTTG Fox HD) or abc 7(WJLA -ABC HD).

So I think there are a couple of people in my same situtation and I can see that you are catching the games with no problems.
I have done some research and visited antennaweb.org

According to them in order to see WTTG-DT 5.1 FOX RF Channel: 36 which is 28 miles at 227 degrees I need to get a large directional antenna with a preamp to reach the violet areas.

Now my big question is which antenna should I get?

I don't think I can install it on my roof because of my strict HOA committee but thankfully I have an attic that I can mount it too. Couple of questions for you guys if you don't mind.

1. Based on your experience, what is a good antenna that can help me. I live in Halethorpe, MD 21227 trying to get to FOX 5 WTTG about 28 miles away.

2. What is a good preamp for this antenna.

3. I will setup this on my attic, you think it will be ok?

4. I'm sure that an antenna might be the only way, but is there a website or other cheap service that can help me watch the redskins games on the fox, abc and nbc stations for Washington, DC?


Thanks a million guys. I really appreciate your feedback and help.
String,

1) Go to http://www.tvfool.com

2) Then go to http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=29 , enter your information and antenna height, and click "Find Local Channels". Post a link to the final "Radar Plot". It will give a good guideline to your signal strength.

Unless you're behind a large hill or mountain or in a hole your location is very do-able. Since you're close to Baltimore, but between Baltimore and Washington, you could probably benefit with an antenna aimed at DC but which can get all the Baltimore channels from the backside (since they are very powerful at your zip code). Assuming again that you're not actually in a hole.

You might also post your request on the forum there, as there is a group of experts who give great antenna advice.

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Unless you're behind a large hill or mountain or in a hole your location is very do-able. Since you're close to Baltimore, but between Baltimore and Washington, you could probably benefit with an antenna aimed at DC but which can get all the Baltimore channels from the backside (since they are very powerful at your zip code). Assuming again that you're not actually in a hole.

You might also post your request on the forum there, as there is a group of experts who give great antenna advice.

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Hey Jake,

Thanks for your quick reply. I really appreciate your help. I am going to do that. I don't have an antenna yet. Which one would you recommend I get. I want one that actually works. Thanks.
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Hey Jake,

Thanks for your quick reply. I really appreciate your help. I am going to do that. I don't have an antenna yet. Which one would you recommend I get. I want one that actually works. Thanks.
String,

It's impossible to make a suggestion without seeing your TV Fool Report. If you're in a hole or at the bottom of a hill the recommendation can be very different than it would be on top of a hill. I'd post your TV Fool Report both here and the TV Fool forum. There are people who will give you better recommendations than I can.

BTW, attics are often not very friendly to antennas. If your house or roof is wrapped in anything with metal foil you might not receive anything with a large antenna (most attics block at least 30-40% of the signal in the best of conditions). A roof, eve, or chimney mounted antenna would be smaller and better. But you can certainly try it in the attic and then move outside if necessary.

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String,

It's impossible to make a suggestion without seeing your TV Fool Report. If you're in a hole or at the bottom of a hill the recommendation can be very different than it would be on top of a hill. I'd post your TV Fool Report both here and the TV Fool forum. There are people who will give you better recommendations than I can.

BTW, attics are often not very friendly to antennas. If your house or roof is wrapped in anything with metal foil you might not receive anything with a large antenna (most attics block at least 30-40% of the signal in the best of conditions). A roof, eve, or chimney mounted antenna would be smaller and better. But you can certainly try it in the attic and then move outside if necessary.

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Hey Jake,

Thanks. Here is my TV fool report. Let me know what you think.
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WJLA-7 (ABC, real channel 7) is "yellow" and WTTG-5 (Fox, real channel 36) is "red", meaning that it would be more difficult to get Channel 5 with an attic antenna.

I'm not an antenna expert (just a knowledgeable enthusiast) so I'll leave it to the real experts to make recommendations (there are 3 or 4 experts on TV Fool who will give you great advice). They are probably going to recommend a larger, directional antenna aimed at magnetic 238 degrees that is also capable of receiving the strong Baltimore stations from the backside.
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I have Spanish audio on both the English and Spanish audio selections on 45.1's NFL football game last night at 11:00 PM..

It happened again, during yesterday's Ravens game on 45.1 If I'm the only one having this problem during Ravens games, then it must be my TV. I got English audio on 5.1.
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3. I will setup this on my attic, you think it will be ok?
If you can't mount an antenna on the roof, I wouldn't bother. Unfortunately the TV FOOL report indicates borderline / too weak DC signal strengths for an attic install.
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Thanks. Here is my TV fool report. Let me know what you think.
If the attic doesn't work for you, you should know that legally an HOA cannot stop you from mounting an antenna on your roof.
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For all of you analog television aficionados, this past September 1st marked the one-year countdown to the final death of commercial analog television broadcasting in these here United States. Low-power (LPTV) analog stations are facing the dropping of the second shoe on September 1, 2015, when all commercial analog television transmissions must cease. The first shoe, of course, dropped June 12, 2009, with the termination of full power analog television broadcast stations on Channels 2 through 69. Here is the announcement for the termination of analog LPTV stations:

"The FCC has established September 1, 2015, the date for the termination of all analog low power television service. After that date, analog television will no longer be broadcast in the United States. Until that time, low power television stations may continue to operate their analog facilities.

"Low power television stations have the opportunity to seek either an on-channel digital conversion of their existing analog facilities (“flash cut”) or may construct and operate a second digital companion channel during the remainder of the digital transition. However, all low power television stations will be required to decide a single digital channel to continue to operate after the September 1, 2015 transition date."

Locally, in the Washington, DC area, to my knowledge, only two remaining LPTV analog stations will be affected by the September 1, 2015 deadline. They are WDCN-LP, analog Channel 6, Fairfax, VA, and WMDO-CA, analog Channel 47, Washington, DC. WDCN has a CP on file with the FCC for WDCN-LD, digital RF Channel 43, probably with the intent to map to digital virtual Channel 6. WMDO-LD is also currently actively broadcasting on digital RF Channel 8, while mapping to digital virtual Channel 47. It is my understanding that WMDO-LD has a CP on file with the FCC to vacate digital RF Channel 8 for digital RF Channel 22, and to continue to map to digital virtual Channel 47. One immediate benefit for residents in the southern and central portions of Montgomery County, MD, is that by WMDO-LD's vacating digital RF Channel 8, that it will eliminate WMDO's interference with WGAL-DT, RF Channel 8 in Lancaster, PA, in parts of Montgomery County, MD, which can receive both stations on digital Channel 8. WGAL-DT sends out a huge 59 kW ERP non-directional digital signal, which almost reaches the Capital Beltway just north of DC.

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Hey Jake,

Thanks. Here is my TV fool report. Let me know what you think.
I'm a few miles south of BWI and have a very similar TVFOOL profile.

I've had great success with a Winegard HD-1080 antenna with Channel Master CM-7777 preamp. I get a stable signal on all full strength stations in DC and Baltimore (including WTTG and WJLA) in all but the worst weather in a challenging situation: attic mounted, aluminum siding, big trees, close to airport. The amp is only needed for the DC stations. It took some patience to find the sweet spot for the antenna that worked best, which turned out to be due west, hanging by some twine from the rafters.
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Sorry, the HD 1080 is a terrible choice given the OP's location. While I like the 1080, it is not gonna work for DC with that TV Fool report.

Besides the OP is looking for someone to tell him that an attic antenna will work, so no sense going any further till he is ready to tell his HOA where to stick it.
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Sorry, the HD 1080 is a terrible choice given the OP's location. While I like the 1080, it is not gonna work for DC with that TV Fool report.

Besides the OP is looking for someone to tell him that an attic antenna will work, so no sense going any further till he is ready to tell his HOA where to stick it.
I think he should consider a Winegard 7696 or Antennacraft HBU-33 antenna, and a Channel Master 7778 preamp or 3414 distribution amp. Or possibly a Winegard LNA-200 preamp. Not too much amp is needed. And of course outside is better, but I don't know why he would have a weak signal report at 28 miles for full power stations. But he could try the attic and see what happens.
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just moved to potomac falls, va

just moved to potomac falls, va, into a townhome, have 1 tv that i'm trying to get as many channels as i can, right now can only get 4.1 and 5.1 consistently, the Homeworx HW110AN is what i have, and i'm curious if folks that are on here, that live in the area have had good results with indoor antenna's. TV is on an eastern facing wall, on second floor, so i could get the antenna about 18-20 feet high indoors. Coax in the walls looks original and probably needs to be replaced to get optimal signal from attic and dish cable runs that were done.

has anyone in the potomac falls, VA /Northern Sterling area had much luck with indoor antenna's?

here's the tvtool listing for an attic install of antenna at 35 feet(3 story townhome)
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UHF & VHF Channels

4.1 (NBC) and 5.1 (FOX) are UHF channels. ABC (7.1) & CBS (9.1) are VHF and more challenging for some indoor antennas.
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4.1 (NBC) and 5.1 (FOX) are UHF channels. ABC (7.1) & CBS (9.1) are VHF and more challenging for some indoor antennas.
Yes, and flat panel antennas such as the Homeworx are designed for UHF and are not optimized for VHF. I would go to Radioshack and get a basic rabbit ears and loop antenna, or possibly the amplified version. The rabbit ears are more crucial to receive 7 and 9 which are VHF. Or try a Terk HDTVa from HHG which also has rabbit ears and is a good indoor antenna.
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I've been without 45.1-45.3 WBBF here in College Park for a few hours now, but I'm getting 67.1 reliably even though it is further away but on the same reception path. I rescanned and went from "no signal" to having the channel eliminated from my channel list.

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Looks like there was a brief outage.

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Anyone close to Northern, VA area (Specifically Woodbridge) to check out a Samsung PN51F8500 tv for me?

I can buy one for $799. Can anyone check it out for me before purchase?
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All - I moved from my 2br Fairfax apartment to a small 550sqft 1br with my girlfriend in the city. I need to sell my Denon 789 AVR and Ascend Acoustics 5.0 setup since there is no room. Any of you locals interested? I sold my Epik Empire sub a few years back to a local and it worked very well for both of us!

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Anyone close to Northern, VA area (Specifically Woodbridge) to check out a Samsung PN51F8500 tv for me?

I can buy one for $799. Can anyone check it out for me before purchase?
Not that I'm offering, but what is it about it that you want checked out?
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Not that I'm offering, but what is it about it that you want checked out?
It seems like one of those "too good to be true" deals. The Samsung F8500 is the top rated TV the past 2 years, the 51" has been hanging around the discounted price of a little less than $1,600 for some time, it just recently dropped to a little less than $1,400 (as Samsung is stopping production this November).

These TVs are really sought after, that it is hard to find open box or used ones available. This seller has two open box Samsung F8500 from Best Buy, according to the seller. It just seems too good to be true, and thus, I want to make sure it is actually legitimate before I make any type of purchase.
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I don't see what anyone can do for you that you can't do for yourself. I guess you would just have to arrange for all of the inputs you plan on using to be available when you test it.

Can you obtain serial numbers before purchasing so that you can run them by the manufacturer and law enforcement?

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30.1-30.6 and 30.7-30.12 have both been out for at least an hour,

Also, I had a blank screen for 2.1 Castle and now have a blank screen for 2.1 Paid Programming, even though the TV's signal meter reads "good" and WMAR's other two subchannels are operating properly.
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Recently come back to battling my nemesis, channel 48 (NBC 4.1), which never comes in well. All the other stations broadcasting from the same location, also upper UHF, and with lower signal strength (per TVFool and FCC) come in stronger and steady. So what gives with 48?!

I'm in Mt Vernon 23308 using a bay bowtie 4-bay in-attic. Everything else comes in exactly as predicted by aiming, etc. Just getting a moderate signal and regular drop-outs dropouts on 48.

Anyone else having probs with 48, know if anything about this station is different, or solved this problem?

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30.1-30.6 and 30.7-30.12 have both been out for at least an hour,

Also, I had a blank screen for 2.1 Castle and now have a blank screen for 2.1 Paid Programming, even though the TV's signal meter reads "good" and WMAR's other two subchannels are operating properly.
All back on at 6:00 AM.
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Recently come back to battling my nemesis, channel 48 (NBC 4.1), which never comes in well. All the other stations broadcasting from the same location, also upper UHF, and with lower signal strength (per TVFool and FCC) come in stronger and steady. So what gives with 48?!

I'm in Mt Vernon 23308 using a bay bowtie 4-bay in-attic.

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23308 is Bloxom Virginia. Did you mis-type a digit?

Someone roughly due south of the Washington, DC transmitters sometimes finds that there is a tall, "Charles Smith" building directly on their reception path. Do you also have trouble with WFDA 14.1-14.4? They will have about the same transmission path to Mt. Vernon. Until recently, it carried no English programming, so many people have deleted it from their channel list and are therefore not aware of its new content.

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Yeah, no coffee yet this morning... 22308

I regularly styop by 14.2-4 nice new channels. They come in 100%, TV signal rating. 48 at best ever hits mid 80s, often lingers in upper 70s with drops to 50s, macroblocking artifacts and loss of picture.

I checked, it seems I'm west enough to miss the Chas Smith bldg, if its the one in Crystal City... but I am sure that low planes in/out of Natl can cause signal drops, on 48 only!

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