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Listing of Digital stations in the Washington / Baltimore Region:
(Revised September 2, 2014)

  1. 002-01 38 ABC WMAR-DT HDTV DD5.1 Local news in HDTV
  2. -----02 38 ----- WMAR-DT Live Well Network SD
  3. -----03 38 ----- WMAR-DT Bounce TV SD
  4. 004-01 48 NBC WRC-DT HDTV DD5.1 Local news in HDTV
  5. -----02 48 ----- WRC-SD CoziTV/Washington Non-stop
  6. 005-01 36 FOX WTTG-DT HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
  7. 007-01 07 ABC WJLA-DT HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
  8. -----02 07 ----- WJLA-DT MeTV
  9. -----03 07 ----- WJLA-DT Live Well Network
  10. 009-01 09 CBS WUSA-DT HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
  11. -----02 09 ----- WUSA-DT Bounce TV
  12. -----03 09 ----- WUSA-DT Weather Nation
  13. 011-01 11 NBC WBAL-DT HDTV Has local news in HDTV
  14. -----02 11 ----- WBAL-SD MeTV/WBAL Plus
  15. 013-01 13 CBS WJZ-DT HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
  16. 014-01 15 UNI WFDC-DT HDTV
  17. -----02 15 ------WFDC-DT GetTV: Sony Picture Entertainment: feature films
  18. -----03 15 ------WFDC-DT Grit
  19. -----04 15 ------WFDC-DT Encore
  20. 020-01 35 MyNet WDCA-DT HDTV
  21. -----02 35 ----- WDCA-DT MOVIES!
  22. -----03 35 ----- WDCA-DT MundoFox
  23. 022-01 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT-HD DD5.1
  24. -----02 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT 2
  25. -----03 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT V-me
  26. 024-01 41 MyNet WUTB-DT HD
  27. -----02 41 ----- WUTB-DT (blank)
  28. 026-01 27 PBS WETA-DT HDTV DD5.1
  29. -----02 27 PBS WETA-DT UK (British)
  30. -----03 27 PBS WETA-DT Kids
  31. -----04 27 PBS WETA-DT TV 26
  32. 030-01 24 MHz WNVC-DT MHz1 MHzDC
  33. -----02 24 MHz WNVC-DT MHz2 NHK World - Japanese
  34. -----03 24 MHz WNVC-DT MHz3 CCTV-4 News Channel (in English)
  35. -----04 24 MHz WNVC-DT MHz4 RT - Russia Today (in English)
  36. -----05 24 MHz WNVC-DT MHz5 Blue Ocean Network (from China): prev carried Al Jazerra
  37. -----06 24 MHz WNVT-DT MHz6 CCTV Documentary
  38. -----07 30 MHz WNVT-DT MHz7 France 24
  39. -----08 30 MHz WNVT-DT MHz8 Russia Today (in Spanish)
  40. -----09 30 MHz WNVT-DT MHz9 Arirang (in English)
  41. -----10 30 MHz WNVT-DT MHz10 Ethiopian Television (in Amharic)
  42. -----11 30 MHz WNVT-DT MHz11 VTV4 (in Vietnamese)
  43. -----12 30 MHz WNVT-DT MHz12 TRT Turk, Arise News (Nigerian-based). 12 hours/day each
  44. 032-01 33 PBS WHUT-DT HDTV
  45. -----02 33 PBS WHUT-DT SD
  46. 045-01 46 FOX WBFF-DT HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
  47. -----02 46 ---- WBFF-DT ThisTV SD
  48. -----03 46 ---- WBFF-DT The Country Network SD
  49. 050-01 50 CW WDCW-DT HDTV DD5.1
  50. -----02 50 ---- WDCW-DT AntennaTV SD
  51. -----03 50 ---- WDCW-DT ThisTV SD
  52. 054-01 40 ---- WNUV-DT HDTV SD
  53. -----02 40 ---- WNUV-DT GetTV: Sony Picture Entertainment: feature films
  54. 062-01 28 PBS WFPT-DT MPT-HD DD5.1
  55. -----02 28 PBS WFPT-DT MPT 2
  56. -----03 28 PBS WFPT-DT MPT V-me
  57. 066-01 34 ionline WPXW-DT ion
  58. -----02 34 ------- WPXW-DT qubo
  59. -----03 34 ionline WPXW-DT ion Life
  60. -----04 34 ------- WPXW-DT ShopTV
  61. -----05 34 ------- WPXW-DT Home Shopping Network
  62. -----06 34 ------- WPXW-DT QVC
  63. 067-01 29 PBS WMPB-DT MPT-HD DD5.1
  64. -----02 29 PBS WMPB-DT MPT 2
  65. -----03 29 PBS WMPB-DT MPT V-me

    Orange indicates VHF/UHF Digital Channel assignments
    DD5.1 indicates Dolby Digital 5.1 capable stations



Online HDTV Progam Guides:

Check HD - Pretty Good HD Line up site. In conjuction with titantv.com
HDTV Magazine - Lists only HDTV channels.
Titan TV -Also contains an antenna direction page like antennaweb.
Zap 2 It - Online channel lineups.


Other Links of Interest:

DTV Answers - a NAB site that gives consumers information about the upcoming discontinuance of Analog television broadcasting.
TV Fool - Silly name, but it sums up a lot of us. This site has a great Antenna aiming tool and Google Broadcast coverage maps for each station. Well worth the look.
Antenna Web - Will tell you. 1. What stations are available to you. 2. Where to aim your antenna to see the stations. 3. How strong of an antenna you need.
2150 - Calculates Distance and Direction to nearby Digital stations.

Urbana Electronics - TV Repair / Antenna service.
Mark Electronics - Electronics Store in Beltsville which has many antennas and parts.
Radio Shack - Parts and accessories.
Solid Signal - Online Antenna retailer

DCRTV.COM - DC Radio/Television News site.

Local Antenna Installers:

Fairfax Antenna - Mention AVS Forum and receive 5% off. Testimonial #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6.
Action Antenna - Baltimore area antenna installation shop. Complaint #1.


Local Cable Companies:

RCN Cable - (DC, Bethesda & Gaithersburg) Formerly StarPower
COX Cable - Cox in Northern Virgina.
Comcast - Mont Co. Comcast Sports Net - Mid Atlantic , No Digitial Tier required for HD Locals Comcast Press release
Adelphia - HDTV service now available in Frederick, MD & Winchester, VA. - Now owned by Comcast but link still works.
Millennium Digital Media - Services the Anne Arundel County area. - Also a Comcast aquisition.
Verizon Fios - Verizon's TV service.
Antietam Cable - Another good HD lineup from a small cable co. West of Frederick.
http://www.cabletv.com/maryland-comcast.html

Satellite Companies:

Dish Network - All HDTV receivers include an OTA tuner. $20 HD fee on top of regular programming package for HD channels. Carries DC HDTV locals. Requires at least two satellites dishes. DISH Network carries the most foreign language channels.

Direct TV - Has an HDTV package for $10.99/mo. Wash, DC HDTV locals are available. DirectTV has a High Capacity Satellite in use and has added a considerable number of HDTV channels. DirecTV carries the most premium sports channels, including the NFL Sunday Ticket.

http://www.usdish.com/dish-network/maryland/b/baltimore

Links to the previous Washington/Baltimore threads:
Wash / Baltimore Thread. March 2005 - January 2007.
Wash / Baltimore Thread. July 2003 - March 2005.
Link to the former DC Metro HD Thread. March 2002 - June 2003.



Local broadcast television station notifications submitted by members (2001-2012):

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LIST OF DC AND BALTIMORE OVER-THE-AIR DIGITAL STATIONS

Unless otherwise noted:

* All analog stations are digitally available in HDTV and Dolby Digital 5.1, and contain no subchannels.
* All subchannels listed are in SD and stereo.

WASHINGTON, DC AREA STATIONS

WRC NBC Analog 4 / Digital 48
. One subchannel:
. 4-2: WRC WeatherPlus
WTTG FOX Analog 5 / Digital 36
WJLA ABC Analog 7 / Digital 39 NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 7 in 2009
. Two subchannels:
. 7-2: Doug Hill's WeatherNow
. 7-3: Local Point
WUSA CBS Analog 9 / Digital 34 Has local news in HDTV NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 9 in 2009
. One subchannel:
. 9-2: WUSA Live Doppler 9000
WFDC Univision Analog 14 / Digital 15 SD Stereo
WDCA MyNetworkTV Analog 20 / Digital 35 Stereo
WETA PBS Analog 26 / Digital 27 Stereo NOTE: Analog programming is not simulcast digitally
. Three subchannels:
. 26-2: PBS Create
. 26-3: WETA Family
. 26-4: WETA World
WNVT Independent Digital-only 30 SD Stereo (WNVC-DT simulcast for areas of N. VA and southern MD)
. Four subchannels:
. 30-2: Russian World TV from 6 PM to 12 Mid.; Real Hip-Hop Network otherwise
. 30-3: France 24 News
. 30-4: Nigerian Television Authority
. 30-5: Russia Today
WHUT PBS Analog 32 / Digital 33 SD Stereo
WDCW CW Analog 50 / Digital 51
WNVC Independent Analog 56 / Digital 57 SD Stereo NOTE: Broadcasts digitally at weak power level
. Four subchannels:
. 57-2: Russian World TV from 6 PM to 12 Mid.; Real Hip-Hop Network otherwise
. 57-3: France 24 News
. 57-4: Nigerian Television Authority
. 57-5: Russia Today
WFPT PBS Analog 62 / Digital 28 (simulcast of WMPT; available in the northwestern DC region)
. Two subchannels:
. 62-2: MPT Select
. 62-3: V-me
WPXW ION Analog 66 / Digital 43 SD Stereo
. Three subchannels:
. 66-2: Qubo
. 66-3: ION Life
. 66-4: Worship
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BALTIMORE AREA STATIONS

WMAR ABC Analog 2 / Digital 52
. Two subchannels:
. 2-2: SD refeed
. 2-3: WeatherNet2
WBAL NBC Analog 11 / Digital 59 Stereo NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 11 in 2009
. One subchannel:
. 11-2: WBAL WeatherPlus
WJZ CBS Analog 13 / Digital 38 NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 13 in 2009
WMPT PBS Analog 22 / Digital 42 (broadcasts from Annapolis)
. Two subchannels:
. 22-2: MPT Select
. 22-3: V-me
WUTB MyNetworkTV Analog 24 / Digital 41 SD Stereo NOTE: Broadcasts digitally at weak power level
WBFF FOX Analog 45 / Digital 46
. One subchannel:
. 45-2: AmericanLife TV Network
WNUV CW Analog 54 / Digital 40
WMPB PBS Analog 67 / Digital 29 (simulcast of WMPT; broadcasts from near Owings Mills)
. Two subchannels:
. 67-2: MPT Select
. 67-3: V-me
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Looking at CycloneGT's post, YES it does have more info involving news, cable carriage, etc. But I contend that my list of OTA stations is cleaner and easier to navigate, at least for DC stations only so far. Let's see what everyone else thinks.
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Welcome to thread Version 11.9.1.1a

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"Let's see what everyone else thinks."

Personally I think your just repeating what he already posted in a different format with a little more detail about the sub channels. The original list in the first post serves it's purpose just fine though, not sure why you think it's hard to navigate.

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In case you all of you having problem with WBAL last night missed it in the short lived thread, markbulla posted that WBAL's PSIP problems appear to be fixed but 11-2 at the time doesn't have audio.

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Mike,

Why keep this up? Give deferance to those that have been here forever like Cyclone. Don't be a PIA.
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The original list in the first post serves it's purpose just fine though, not sure why you think it's hard to navigate.

The number one issue with the list is that the DC and Baltimore stations are grouped together, without reference as to where each station comes from. What if someone wants to pick up just DC stations? Also, that list didn't show the stations that would broadcast on VHF after analog shut-off. For someone new to HDTV, I don't want them to select an antenna only to have them have to put up a new one in the middle of winter of 2009. There are other misc. issues, but that would be nitpicking.

I do thank CycloneGT for his original post. I doubt my list could be done without his.

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Mike,

Why keep this up? Give deferance to those that have been here forever like Cyclone. Don't be a PIA.

Sorry if I came across like that. I don't intend to be one; I just want to help people.
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Mike has a lot of enthusiasm and wants to contribute. So we should all welcome his efforts. While I am not willing to relinquish post #1 in the thread, he is more than welcome to build up post #2 to whatever he wishes.

So I hope to see great things from him.

Hopefully this thread will last the normal 1.5 - 2 years. Its kinda fun to see the time capsule over the years. Who knows what we will be posting about in 2009 when this thread will likely need to be recycled once again.

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Hello,

I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel.

I have the "TERK HD-TVS Slim Profile Outdoor HDtv Antenna" (medium directional) attached to a Sony Bravia TV. I've tried the roof of my two-story house as well as the attic, using the orientations specified by AntennaWeb, as well as pretty much every angle in the general direction of D.C.

Has anyone in my area had luck with OTA? What should my next step be, a pre-amp?

Thanks for helping out a newbie!
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I am going to add the VHF conversion info soon. Mushusker was asking me about that just last month. I'm also going to pull Adelphia out of the grid soon and that should make it easier to read. I've already done this in the nationwide grid over in the HD Programming forum. (Of course I'm going to add AT&T over there so I don't gain much space there).

Buri, There are several Sterling posters here, so I'm sure you will get an answer soon. I do know that Terk antennas have terrible reputations. You may want to try an antenna from Radio Shack. A good outdoor UHF only antenna is only about $25 from there. And if you can return it if it does't help. Just make sure to keep the packaging in good shape. (you'll also need a 75oh transceiver (a ~$5 part) to connect that antenna to a coax-cable.

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Rock on ... thanks for settling this nicely, Cyclone, Mike, David

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In case you all of you having problem with WBAL last night missed it in the short lived thread, markbulla posted that WBAL's PSIP problems appear to be fixed but 11-2 at the time doesn't have audio.

I currently don't have audio on 11-1 either... I tried deleting the channel and re-adding it, and I had audio for a couple of seconds, but it went away... Strange.

Mark

I just checked on another receiver, and the audio was there. It's got to be some sort of PSIP problem that effects some receivers and not others...

Mark
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1/19/2007: bbt: Comcast posted in the Frederick Post that on Feb 12, 2007 that HDNet and HDNet movies would be replaced with TNT-HD, CSN-HD, and NGC-HD.

Will this be for Comcast subscribers in Harford county?

I really wish that I had OTA DishTV since they have so many HD channels and I also wish that I had Verizon FIOS for their 15Mbps internet connection. Hopefully Comcast will step it up over the next few months or they will start losing subscribers.
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I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel. ... What should my next step be, a pre-amp?

No, not that. Either you have multipath or signal overload. Tell me, is there "ghosting" on the analog channels (duplicate images to the right of the primary picture)? If so, there's your problem.

Not a lot of DTV tuners in TVs can handle multipath too well. Go and try the RadioShack VU-75 XR antenna for $40 (though it's pretty much designed for attic use only), and yes, do retain the packaging. I suggest trying the Samsung DTB-H260F HD tuner if a new antenna doesn't work. Though they're hard to find, you might have luck finding one at a Circuit City store.

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A good outdoor UHF only antenna is only about $25 from there. ... (you'll also need a 75oh transceiver (a ~$5 part) to connect that antenna to a coax-cable.

Man, you go around talking about VHF conversions then tell buri to get a UHF-only antenna? Are you an alien out to take scrap antenna metal, so you can build a flying saucer?

CycloneGT, I don't want you to relinquish your entire post, just the OTA info once my list is relatively done. I'm working on the Baltimore list and will further enhance the DC list a bit. The Baltimore list should be up by the State of the Union address tonight. No, it won't be total vaporware like 7-3/SportsNow. (I know, I know, it's supposed to be available tomorrow, but didn't Mr. Forsyth say it was going to come on some Monday months ago? )
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I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel.

I have the "TERK HD-TVS Slim Profile Outdoor HDtv Antenna" (medium directional) attached to a Sony Bravia TV. I've tried the roof of my two-story house as well as the attic, using the orientations specified by AntennaWeb, as well as pretty much every angle in the general direction of D.C.

You should be getting at least some of the DC stations with that antenna. I assume you have done a digital channel scan with flat face of the antenna aimed at DC?

However, if you can return the Terk HDTVs antenna, I would. There are zero specs on the Terk website on this antenna, but that is Terk for you. There are much better antennas available at lower costs. For example, I can get the DC stations with a $25 indoor Silver Sensor UHF antenna, if I set it up with a clear view towards DC.

I live in the northeast part of the Cascades in north Sterling, only several miles from you. I have a Channel Master (CM) 4221 4 Bay bowtie in the attic crawlspace of my townhouse and I get 17 digital TV stations - the DC stations, six Baltimore stations, the MPT stations in Frederick and Hagerstown(!), and several others. I also have a CM 7777 pre-amp, but I don't need the pre-amp to get the DC stations. I have the pre-amp to make up for local obstructions including the top of 3 townhouses down the row between my antenna and the direction of Baltimore.

I'm happy with the performance of the CM 4221. The CM 4221 is around $25 online plus ~$15 shipping from on-line dealers solidsignal.com and warrenelectronics.com. BTW, Lowes is useful for antenna mounting parts and RG-6 cables.

If you want to buy locally and are only interested in getting the DC stations, try Radio Shack or Lowes. The only antennas at Best Buy and Circuit City that I would recommend are the Philips and Terk copies of the Silver Sensor. Check http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html for info on antennas.
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I currently don't have audio on 11-1 either... I tried deleting the channel and re-adding it, and I had audio for a couple of seconds, but it went away... Strange.

Mark

I just checked on another receiver, and the audio was there. It's got to be some sort of PSIP problem that effects some receivers and not others...


Mark, do you have any contact info for WBAL if and when this happens again. Very hard to get hold of...I tried last night.
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Mark, do you have any contact info for WBAL if and when this happens again. Very hard to get hold of...I tried last night.

I sitll have no audio on WBAL 11.1 or 11.2 on my HR10-250 receiver.

Is there something I should do to restore it?
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mikemikeb: I don't get any noticeable ghosting -- actually the analog channels are almost comparable to what I get with my normal Comcast cable service.

afiggatt: I did a digital scan at 5 degree increments all the way around the 180 degree field pointing at DC on successive days and got nothing.

Thanks, Cyclone, mike, and afiggatt for your purchase suggestions. I'll give them a shot!

Regards,
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I was going to post this as response to Washington Post story about the guy's $1,399 HDTV, but the thread was closed before I could get to it. I thought this was funny as well.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/features...ome-columnists
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mikemikeb: I don't get any noticeable ghosting -- actually the analog channels are almost comparable to what I get with my normal Comcast cable service.

I'd say that you're having overload issues. With that in mind, try an attenuator at RadioShack. That might be all that's needed, not a new antenna. Speaking of the antenna, mount your current one indoors to maximise the attenuator's effect.

afiggatt, any UHF-only antenna, like the Silver Sensor, might have difficulty receiving channels 7 and 9. The 4221 isn't too good with gain for channels 7 and 9, according to the HDTVPrimer site you linked to.

Anyway, the Baltimore list is preliminarily up, although I'm not done with it. For example I have some questions:

1. Is 2-3 a weather radar only like 9-2, or is it a multipurpose channel like 7-2 / Doug Hill's WeatherNow?
2. Is the order of the MPT channels correct? If not, what is the correct order?
3. Are people watching WMPB or WFPT getting their HD programming in DD5.1? I know that WMPT viewers can.
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I really doubt that overload is an issue in Sterling, especially with a Terk. Weak signal is more likely the issue.
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Look to the skies on Wednesday.

I assume the test pattern on 7.3 means that something might actually happen tomorrow.
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Hello,

I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel.

Buri, I live across the Blvd from you, I'm on the street in front PVHS...

I have 2 UHF Antennas, 1 is a Channel Master #4228 & the 2nd one is the cheap UHF antenna that came in the box with my ATI HDTV Wonder Tuner Card,

I have the #4228 (not ampified) mounted outside on the chimney & connected to my STB & my computer and I'm getting all Digital signals from DC & Balt'more..

I have the cheap antenna (inside on dresser) connected to my Vizio HDTV in the Bedroom and I'm getting all the DC stations crystal clear....

I have both pointing to 115 degrees ..

I once had a problem with the brand new coxial cable that E* used when setting up my dish service, found out there was a unseened break on the copper line in the cable and give me bad reception. You might want to make sure your coxial cable to up to par...

If your need help setting up just drop me a note, I have all the necessary devices to find out the best signal for you...


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I'd say that you're having overload issues. With that in mind, try an attenuator at RadioShack. That might be all that's needed, not a new antenna. Speaking of the antenna, mount your current one indoors to maximise the attenuator's effect.

afiggatt, any UHF-only antenna, like the Silver Sensor, might have difficulty receiving channels 7 and 9. The 4221 isn't too good with gain for channels 7 and 9, according to the HDTVPrimer site you linked to.

I agree with fmsjr. Overload at the 16+ miles distance to Sterling is unlikely. The Terk antenna should be receiving at least some of the DC stations. Heck, I got most of the big four DC stations with a UHF loop antenna when I was starting out with OTA.

buri, I would check everything starting with a read of the manual. Verify that the antenna is connected to the correct digital RF port, the cable connections are good, that the antenna is aimed at DC at around 110 to 115 degrees (from magnetic north), and that do a full digital scan with the ATSC over the air tuner. Another possibility is that the digital tuner in the Sony is defective. I think you will want to get a better antenna, but that Terk should be at least detecting the big four in DC.

mikemikeb, the CM 4221 is a UHF antenna, but it has decent performance for the upper end of upper VHF. I get WWPX-DT 60 which broadcasts on VHF 12 out of Martinsburg at 46 miles to the rear. I also get good picture quality for the analog signals WJLA 7 and WUSA 9 out of DC. The analog reception for WBAL 11 and WJZ 13 is rather noisy, so I expect I may need to add a upper VHF antenna to get those 2 stations in 2009. But the CM 4221 should be ok for the DC stations in 2009.
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WBAL is still a mess.

My TV (Sony) has no sound on 11.1 and 11.2 but 59.1 and 59.2 are still coming in clear.

My HR10 (DirecTivo HD) has no sound on 11.1, 11.2, 59.1 and 59.2.

My HR20 (DirecTV DVR) has sound on 11.1 and 11.2. (Can't tune 59.1 or 59.2 because it is not in the guide.)

What a mess.

Does ANYONE know how to contact WBAL Engineering? Somehow I doubt they know things are broken (and may think it is all fixed).
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OK, last I checked during the State of the Union speech, 7-3 was a test pattern, as biker19 reported. Looks like Mr. Forsyth's fulfilling his Wednesday promise.

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I really doubt that overload is an issue in Sterling, especially with a Terk. Weak signal is more likely the issue.

So his analogs are clean and yet he can't pick up any digitals? Wow, digital signals must not be too robust! And the fact that his analog signals are comparable to those from the cable company? Wow, those cable signals must be really snowy.

Now that I think about it, buri, two things: What year was your Sony HDTV made, and what's its model number? The reason you're not getting HD signals might be amazingly simple: your TV might not have a digital OTA tuner!

If you're sure that your Sony has a DTV tuner, do channels 26, 32, and 50 have multipath, or are those signals clean? See, if your PQ for the big 4 nets are good, and the UHF signals have multipath, then there's the issue, as all DC locals currently digitally broadcast over UHF, not VHF like the Big 4 analogs. Perhaps it's an overload issue, and a refundable way to find out is to get a three or six dB attenuator at RadioShack. Maybe the attenuator will control any multipath and deliver a lock, or maybe not. Who knows? In any case, I still contend that if it's not a matter of having a tuner in the Sony, it's a matter of overload at your place.

According to the HDTVPrimer website, afiggatt, the CM 4221 has better gain over channels 11 and 13 than 7 and 9, so it's probably a matter of weak signal over distance that provides the analog signal situation with WJZ and WBAL. That said, maybe the CM 4221 would do for buri IF channels 7 and 9 could be digitally received in 2009. I hope they are, and it seems like it.
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I will try mailing the person who responded to me from WBAL today when I get to work in the morning, I don't have the address at home. I contacted them via the form on their website this morning and got a response fairly quick and also a follow up when they had the PSIP generator back online.

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