Originally Posted by DrLar
LMAO! they are still stretch-o-visioning letterboxed images!, what's their problem? They should have at least zoomed into that one.
They should at least zoom to get rid of the letterboxing and either get rid of the logo during the commercials or make it Semi-Transparent like the "50 Years Of Novelas" Logo was. Also the Analog Logo is semi-transparent and Digital isn't
(sarcasm)What Genius thought of that?(sarcasm ends). The Juarez TV Azteca 25 HD channel used to zoom when a program wasn't in HD like Hechos, The 8:30 Soap, and the music videos Shows that are on Saturday but they don't do it anymore. So I'm assuming the Televisa channel has the same ability.
Originally Posted by DrLar
The soccer game between Mexico and Brasil was stretched also, I set the rate to 4:3 and looked good though but with the nasty black sidebars. That res is something in between 480 and 720, because in a regular TV you could see less field, maybe say 15%?
Actually the game between Mexico and Brazil was shown on Televisa channel 5 Wednesday at 8 pm or so. We only get that channel in Analog on channel 56. I think you mean the game that was on Sunday on channel of the Stars, were it was pouring buckets and they only played one half. If thats the game you mean, it was stretched, and the weather was huge factor, even TV Azteca could only show at most 5 to 10 minutes of it in HD. So I wouldn't give them such a hard time over it.
Back when my house Had Directv a long time ago, and it rained hard in El Paso we couldn't even get a signal. So I'm assuming that's what happened but the other way around, they couldn't send The HD signal to the Satellite properly, because of the rain and no one got the HD feed at Televisa. Why they couldn't send the HD Signal To another Digital TV Station where it wasn't raining like Tijuana Or Guadalajara, using the internet and a Highly Secure Part of The Televisa Website That only certain employees like the Engineers have Access to, so they can send it to the Satellite beats me. Of course that's assuming they Have That ability and A big enough Internet Connection. At a speed test website It says that a T2 Connection is 6.2 Mbs, which is close to the Maximum speed of My Cable modem, and that a T3 Connection is about 45Mbs about the Speed of Verizon FIOS. I'm assuming an analog TV Station In Mexico would have at least a T2 connection shared between a couple of Important Employees. A Digital TV station should have at least 30Mbs, more that enough to handle the around 20Mbs required to download the entire ATSC signal from the Internet in real time should a situation like what happened with this Game arise.
Originally Posted by DrLar
And come on! they are selling the stuff! If I was in charge of marketing I would pay a bit extra for an HD commercial.
actually I mentioned something similar about this in My last hate mail to them, and a few days Later all of a sudden, they started showing all of the 6 pm soap In HD everyday and they are still showing it that way, sometimes they forget to turn it on for about 5 to 10 minutes but thats not as bad as 30 or 40 minutes . To make a long story short, I found some Email addresses for 5 people in charge of marketing and sales at the Televisa website and E-mailed them all. At the Televisa website it said do you want to advertise on one of our channels then Email these People. I said something like this ,but in Spanish, toward the end of my E-mail:
"What would your sponsors think if they knew that their HD commercials aren't being shown in HD, on an HD show, that isn't even shown in HD most of the time in the Juarez Market."
I don't remember if I mentioned them possibly charging more for an HD Commercial, but I probably did.
Originally Posted by DrLar
I also ROFL at stores that sell TVs here in Mexico, they put a regular DVD in all the HDTVs connected via composite RCA video and RCA audio, they look so lame, perhaps they are not encouraging to buy them with those steep prices. If I also was a salesman there, I connect them via HDMI to an HD-DVD or Blue Ray with a movie in HD, to IMPRESS the customers not the other way around. (kind of what several stores do in the US). Customers here think "man, $25,000.00 pesos and it looks like that? I'll pass"
Actually Yesterday I went to COMPUSA And they were doing something worse they were showing MTV2 in Standard Definition, Stretched, and with terrible compression(Cable Companies fault not theirs) on pretty much all their HDTVs. they also had One HDTV showing a demonstration of the difference Between Blu-Ray and a Regular DVD. It had a line that moved from Right to Left that separated the two parts of the picture. On the left it said Blu-Ray and on the right it said DVD. I could barely tell the difference between the Two, Blu-Ray was a little Clearer. On one the TVs I eventually changed The channel from Fox HD which had the Black bars on the side, on a 50 inch DLP to Azteca 24 HD and
it was much better looking. Unfortunately that was the Only TV that had an Antenna Hooked up so I went to all the TVs showing MTV 2 and got rid of the Stretching. It looked better, but the Compression was still noticeable Especially on the Bigger TVs. It was lunch time and there was no one at the TV department, so I bought something cheap and told the employ at the Register that They should at least show some HD on their TVs and that I changed the channel on one of them to A Mexican HD Channel. The woman at register asked me why I didn't say anything to someone there and I said there was no one there. She said thank you an said that she would see if she could get it fixed.
If I owned a business Like this in El Paso I would put Azteca 24 HD on some of the TVs, PBS HD on other TVs, and A Blu-ray or HDDVD player on the Rest of the HDTVs. I'm thinking this would be a great way to get People from Juarez to Buy HDTVs at this hypothetical store. They would pass by the TVs showing Azteca 24 HD and say something like:
"Oye Vieja ven paca! Mira que bonito se ve esta Tele, y el Canal esta en Español"(Hey honey come here! Look how pretty this TV looks, and the Channel is in Spanish)
Then A salesman who Speaks Spanish would come and tell them that this channel is available for Free over the Air in Juarez and all they need is an Antenna. That would make it much more likely that this hypothetical store would sell this TV and other TV. Stores in Juarez could also do Something Similar To try to sell their overpriced TVs. The customers might even feel proud to know that a Mexican TV station has HD.
About the price difference I think it has to do with The fact That HDTVs have a much higher demand in The US, and they're no longer considered a Luxury Item. Heck even some of the So Called "Poor People" in this country have them, but In my Opinion that's because wages are Too High in this Country. Lower Demand in Mexico means Stores order fewer HDTVs so they don't get as high a Wholesale Discount as US Stores do. In the US Many consumers are avoiding Analog TVs like the Plague since they're going to be obsolete in 2009. I went to Best Buy Yesterday and they didn't even have Analog TVs only A Few 4:3 Digital TVs. also I think the Shop Owners in Mexico know they can get away with selling them at those prices since they're still considered Luxury Items. That reminds me of something I remember that there used to be An Electronics manufacturer in Juarez. Are they still there? If they are they could lower Prices For HDTVs in Juarez. They could hire more workers and build more TVs for Mexico. Then they could store them in warehouse In Juarez, and sell them to local shops that order TVs from either other parts in Mexico, The US or other Countries.
I really think COFETEL should seriously reconsider the Digital TV plan they have, It's a Joke even for Mexico they're going to be one of the last countries to Completely Cut Off the Analog Signal according to this plan. Back When They Developed it in 2004, they probably didn't consider that the USA would eventually have ATSC Converters which should work in Mexico. They should meet this year or Early next year at the latest and at least Update The DTV Plan. There are 35 DTV stations in Mexico and according to the plan there were only supposed to be 10-15 DTV Stations by this time.
I'm predicting that When the USA cuts off analog in 2009 many Analog TV owners in Mexico's border cities are going to be ticked because they can no longer watch Univision, Telemundo, Telefutura, and other Spanish channels that are broadcast from the US. This will also be bad for US Border cities because it will cause a shortage in these cities. All the shop owners will wonder who is buying so many Converter boxes, and they will eventually realize that they are being bought by people from Mexico, the FCC might even have to get involved. I'm sure many people will also buy them in bulk and get them to Mexico where they will be sold on the Black Market not only on the border but in other places like Mexico City, Guadalajara, Monterrey and other cities that have DTV by 2009. this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, and If COFETEL doesn't do something the FCC will force them to at least start selling converter Boxes legally.
COFETEL should at least have a meeting to discuss the Converter Boxes. They should give Mexican border cities like Juarez and Tijuana permission to start selling Converter Boxes at least 9 months before the US cuts off Analog, and put a warning on Analog TVs in Spanish, the FCC already has these. They could just modify them to say something like this:
"Esta Televisión solo tiene un decodificador analógico y no va a poder recibir Señales de Televisión Que provienen de los Estados Unidos después de Febrero 17, 2009 por que ellos van a quitar la señal analógica. Si usted vive en una ciudad fronteriza, y ve la programación de Univision, Telefutura Telemundo, O otro canal que viene de los Estados Unidos con una antenna, Ya no lo va a poder ver despues de ese dia, si no compra un aparato que Convierte La Señal Digital a una que se pueda ver en esta Televisión. Si tiene Preguntas hable con un asociado de ventas en esta tienda."
(This TV only has an Analog Tuner and will not be able to receive TV channels that Originate in the US after February 17, 2009 because they are going to cut off The Analog Signal on that Day. If you live in a border city and watch programming from Univision, Telefutura, Telemundo,or another US channel with an antenna, you will no longer be able to watch it after that day if you don't buy a Converter Box that converts the digital signal to one that this TV can display. If you have any questions ask a sales associate at this store.)
A New or Updated DTV plan for Mexico should have deadlines based on Major World Sporting events like The Summer Olympics and the World Cup. I've heard that the US decided to Cut-Off Analog on February 18th, because it's after the Super Bowl. For Example 2 weeks before the 2008 Summer Olympics start, the cities that are currently in phase I should have Digital Replica, and cities that are currently in phase II Should have Digital presence. For 2 weeks before the 2010 World Cup, the cities that are currently in phase II should have Digital Replica, and the cities that are currently in Phase III should have Digital Presence. They should then continue like this until all Mexico has Digital TV stations.
I think COMPUSA had the TVs hooked up via component and set to output at 1080i mode. My sisters in Houston have their HD Cable Box hooked to their 50 Inch HDTV the same way and on Univision the Compression was terrible. They recorded the first part of Juan Querendon on A VCR hooked up to that TV for me and my parents while we were there, and when I saw it on my VCR at home I could barely see the compression.