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post #1 of 6 Old 11-20-2001, 10:52 AM - Thread Starter
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Hey All -

I nned some help. I am trying to find a card for the PC that can play out HD content to an external display. The HD content could be played from a PVR or straight from a STB or OTA.

What are my chances of finding such a thing?

Thanks for the help!

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post #2 of 6 Old 11-20-2001, 01:11 PM
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Your choices are basically:
* Telemann HiPix
* iTech accessDTV
* Haupauge WinTV-HD

(I like the HiPix)

All those cards have antenna inputs that
can record ATSC HDTV "Over The Air".

They store the HDTV as files on your hard disk
and then can play them back out through their
VGA ports. The HiPix can output YPrPb directly
to an HDTV if you want.

There is only one STB that can feed these cards
and that is the discontinued dish network
model 5000 with the (hard to find) HDTV modulator
expansion module.

The software for the cards act like a PVR
for HDTV streams.

If you have a PVR (Like a TiVo for instance)
you can take the SVideo output from that and
put it into the HiPix and then the HiPix
will "scale" that video signal up to HDTV
resolution so that you can view previously
recorded NTSC and satellite broadcasts as well.

I hope this info helps you.
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Two Thumbs up for the Telemann HiPix :)

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Hey PVR ---

what happened to the DISH 5000?

What was special about that receiver? I'm new to this...
why can't a DISH 6000 output to a card... some card with component in... and record that?

Aren't their other video cards with component in that can record an HD stream onto the hard drive?

I was hoping to have HD run through an HTPC and scale the signal to 1080P. Is this impossible?

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Dish 5000 was discontinued because it was
basically old technology.

It was special in that it had an expansion
port that supported a special 8VSB output
module.

The 6000 does not have 8VSB output
(although it has an optional 8VSB _input_
module for OTA tuning).

The 8VSB out may have been discontinued
to avoid controvery over recording ability.

Most new boxes have VGA or component outputs
instead.

DHCP or DVI/5C encrypted digital outputs will
start to appear on the next generation
receivers.

Recording the component outputs digitally
to a computer is not very practical. Once
to the component phase the signal has been
decoded (no longer compressed digital MPEG2)
and is now a much higher bandwidth analog signal.

You can take the HiPix output (1080i) and scale
it to 1080p with a very pricey line doubler
from companies like Faroudja.

Maybe someday Ravisent will start offering
CineplayerDTV software with a cheap DTV tuner
card and you will be able to have what you
want - HDTV played as 1080p on your PC.

Ravisent may be waiting for more HDTV content
to be broadcast before marketing their
"solution".

http://www.ravisent.com/products/indexCPDTV.html
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Okay, that makes sense. In time, maybe we will have HD input through component... or some DVI hack to defeat copy protection?

One more question... If the Hi-Pix card outputs 1080I, what does a CRT projector do with such a signal, since it has to be progressive, right?

Or do CRT front projector do interlaced images?

I just bought a Barco 701S, and it is using the S-video input, because I don't have a computer to hook to it (yet). [it is also upside down... I'm still working on that fix!!!]

Is my Barco showing 480I, or is it showing 480P --- is it line doubling for me?

If you can't tell, this CRT / home theater stuff is new to me!

Thanks!

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