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How to Get Dolby Vision HDR at Home

Dolby Vision HDR provides the best image quality available today. Here's a list of all the providers and products that support it at home.

http://www.avsforum.com/dolby-vision-hdr-home/
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Are you sure the Denon x200 models are getting a firmware for Dolby Vision?
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Are you sure the Denon x200 models are getting a firmware for Dolby Vision?
I verified all models listed with the manufacturers.
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This is very helpful, thank you very much. Any chance on listing compatible soundbars?
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This is very helpful, thank you very much. Any chance on listing compatible soundbars?
I'm not sure there are any, but I'll look into it. If anyone knows of a soundbar that passes Dolby Vision, please let me know.
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I'm not sure there are any, but I'll look into it. If anyone knows of a soundbar that passes Dolby Vision, please let me know.


Thanks. It's my understanding that a soundbar with HDMI 2.0 can only pass it if it's through a streaming app but you need 2.0a to pass an Ultra Blu Ray with DV. Is this correct?
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We need more bluray content! The stuff on Vudu is good but DV bluray blows it out of the water, i.e. Despicable Me.

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I verified all models listed with the manufacturers.
Thanks Scott very helpful.......looks like Sony dropped the ball on the X-800

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I'm so glad Marantz made a U-turn with regards to DV/HLG support on the 2015 series. This is the first time I have seen a large manufacturer actually listen to their customers. Quite a few AVS members raised tickets with them to include DV and this time it worked out.
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Sony doesn't even have a UHD player with a firmware update?
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Great news about Marantz deciding to include their 2015 models in the update, especially since Dolby Vision was an existing format when those models came out. I bought my 7010 to be future-proof but without DV it wasn't even current-proof.
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That pic, ugh ... Clown Car Television .... it all looks so fake. Of course, there is no green on the screen, since they seem to be light years away from getting that right.

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How to Get Dolby Vision HDR at Home

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Which streaming apps on which platforms also allow for download (for rental or short term viewing, not for purchase)? I have a situation where bandwidth is limited.

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This is very helpful, thank you very much. Any chance on listing compatible soundbars?
I'm not sure there are any, but I'll look into it. If anyone knows of a soundbar that passes Dolby Vision, please let me know.
The LG SJ9 Atmos Soundbar does. I have my Chromecast Ultra plugged into the soundbar, which in turn gives me both Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos simultaneously on Vudu.
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The LG SJ9 Atmos Soundbar does. I have my Chromecast Ultra plugged into the soundbar, which in turn gives me both Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos simultaneously on Vudu.
Thank you, do you know if it does with a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray encoded with Dolby Vision? I read that to stream from Vudu, Netflix, etc in Dolby Vision you need HDMI 2.0 but in order to play back a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray with DV you need HDMI 2.0a.
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Scott,

Are you sure the Denon x200 models are getting a firmware for Dolby Vision?
Hi Scott,

Wow that would be a really nice update!! Anyhow are you really sure about that cause in Germany there have been news that there wont be any update for the X6200w for example.

German Denon Website:
https://denon-de.custhelp.com/app/an...tibilit%C3%84t

Basically it states that there will only be an update (HLG and DV) for:
AVR-X1300W, AVR-X2300W, AVR-X3300W, AVR-X4300H, AVR-X6300H, AVR-7200WA

I have just placed a request with Denon Germany to have that question answered and almost immediately the request was answered:

As of now there are no plans to update the X6200w but they will forward this request to product development.

Greetings

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Scott I have a LG 65C6 with Netflix, I just don't see a great increase in the picture with 4K streaming.
I might be doing something wrong.Bye the way, my internet speed is 29meg.
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For all those with older equipment. DV is nice, but it's not a must have. HDR10 will look pretty much the same and will be included in everything that supports DV. This reminds me of the new audio formats from years ago. DTS, DTS master audio, etc... . People upgraded their receivers (me too) and they all sounded about the same as regular dolby digital.
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That pic, ugh ... Clown Car Television .... it all looks so fake. Of course, there is no green on the screen, since they seem to be light years away from getting that right.
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So glad to see that my lower-budget Denon (S720W) is on the list. While reading the article (before I got to the part that listed all receivers), I did a Google search and couldn't find any info to confirm it. Guess I should have saved my time and just finished reading Scott's article to see the list. If Scott says he confirmed it with Denon, that's good enough for me.
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dolby vision at home

if you have chromecast ultra connected directly to a compatible tv (say an LG OLED), does it matter whether the receiver has dolby vision hdr?
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Does anyone have a link to somebody doing a side-by-side comparison of DV vs HDR10 via UHD Disc? (I'm getting that upgrade itch )

Searching only leads to comparisons of the Technology itself (which has been well established for awhile now).


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if you have chromecast ultra connected directly to a compatible tv (say an LG OLED), does it matter whether the receiver has dolby vision hdr?
No. DV receivers are only necessary if you connect the Chromecast Ultra (or any other DV source) to the receiver. Then have the receiver send the video to the TV via HDMI.


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No. DV receivers are only necessary if you connect the Chromecast Ultra (or any other DV source) to the receiver. Then have the receiver send the video to the TV via HDMI.
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I am skeptical about the dynamic HDR mastering of a lot of these streaming sources. There's nothing that guarantees DV is better than HDR10 in a particular movie/show. I find it very hard to believe that Amazon or Netflix is paying to have somebody master all the scenes of these compatible shows in DV. How do I know that HDR10 static mastering isn't just converted to DV and they call it good? Obviously DV technically is better than HDR10, you can set it per frame, but how do we know that is being done in any of this content?

Now we know licensing has a big part to play in this, so it's very possible (even likely) that Dolby and streamers have a sweet deal for Dolby's mastering tools that help create this content in DV vs doing it as an after thought.

It's just very strange to me how many VUDU movies support DV, that didn't have theatrical DV mastering, and didn't have DV UHD releases. Who is then paying to have this done, and how much attention to detail are they taking when doing it.

Hopefully these DV UHDs show it at it's full potential with the clear advantages vs HDR10 mastering.
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I have heard Pioneer confirmed the Pioneer Elite SC-LX901 will get a Dolby Vision firmware update, have not heard if any of the other Elite receivers (ie, 801, 701) will. Scott, can you verify with Pioneer?
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The LG SJ9 Atmos Soundbar does. I have my Chromecast Ultra plugged into the soundbar, which in turn gives me both Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos simultaneously on Vudu.
Thank you, do you know if it does with a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray encoded with Dolby Vision? I read that to stream from Vudu, Netflix, etc in Dolby Vision you need HDMI 2.0 but in order to play back a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray with DV you need HDMI 2.0a.
If I knew the answer by heart I'd tell you, but I dont. Please see or ask on the SJ9 thread in the soundbar section here on AVS
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Scott I have a LG 65C6 with Netflix, I just don't see a great increase in the picture with 4K streaming.
I might be doing something wrong.Bye the way, my internet speed is 29meg.
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Do you have the Netflix 4K plan? Run a DV show and the Dolby Vision flag should pop up on your TV.
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Scott I have a LG 65C6 with Netflix, I just don't see a great increase in the picture with 4K streaming.
I might be doing something wrong.Bye the way, my internet speed is 29meg.
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Do you have the Netflix 4K plan? Run a DV show and the Dolby Vision flag should pop up on your TV.
Also keep in mind Netflix's 4k bitrate is only 15Mbps, the worst of any major streamer. VUDU's UHD quality is 25Mbps. Netflix is basically the worst sample to use when trying to "see" the benefits of 4k.
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