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6/3/17 Northeast/New England Speakers & Beer Tasting GTG Planning Thread

<link to the Results thread to be posted on June 3rd 6/3/17 Northeast Audio GTG & Beer Tasting-w/JTR, DIYSG, Next Level Acoustics, Quest> This is the planning thread.

I have finalized a date for the next GTG- Saturday June 3rd to be held in Massachusetts. This will be an all-day event. Thinking we'll set-up between 8-10AM, have a meet-and-greet, some informal listening sessions afterwards to give people driving from further away a bit more time to arrive before we start main listening sessions. For the main room we may split into two groups unless the attendee list ends up being smaller, we'll see. We'll eat food & drink beers throughout the day.. We'll likely start wrapping up around 9PM.

Vendors
I reached out to a variety of vendors; these are the ones who stepped up to the plate and will be participating:
JTR Speakers @Jeff Permanian http://jtrspeakers.com/
Next Level Acoustics @Tech5635 http://www.nextlevelacoustics.com/
Dark Energy Screens @stephen77 http://www.darkenergyscreens.com/
Quest Acoustical Interiors @AudioGuru http://www.questai.com/home.php
DIYSound Group @Erich H http://www.diysoundgroup.com/ (Figured they should get an honorable mention since we'll have several attendees bringing their DIYSG creations )

Equipment List: (Work in progress)
Main room/ Primary speaker comparison: JTR 210RT, DIYSG Titan 615LX, DIYSG 1099, Others TBD.

2nd room speaker demo:
1. Next Level Acoustics: Fusion soundbar and CI-HV10 High Velocity Subwoofer, In-wall monitor and In-ceiling atmos speaker for display/demo, potentially a passive CI-HV 15 Sub as well.
Others TBD.

Screen material to demo: Dark Energy Abyss .9 Ambient Light Rejecting Screen material

Treatments for demo: Various treatments from Quest

Other speakers\subs for demo: JTR Captivator 4000ULF, JTR Captivator S1


Attendee List
1. (Host): Ryan @Ryansboston
2. Jeff Permanian of JTR Speakers @Jeff Permanian
3. Representative from Next Level Acoustics
4. Lee Weber from Next Level Acoustics/ AVS Forum editorial staff @Lee Weber
5. Zach @seraph
6. Michael Fusick @Mfusick
7. Mike @Boxozaxu
8. JJ @lemonslush
9. Gana @Tuning
10. Shane @Docethic
11. Daniel Webster @dan webster
12. Dave @reefdvr
13. Mario L. @Modicen
14. Tom (Mario's friend)
15. Mike Martin @martinm0
16. Dan @DanT9
17. Kevin @Kruppa
18. Josh @porkcereal
19. Daman @Daman S
20. Chris @1redz06
21.-2x? A few of Ryan's non-AVS buddies

Pending replies:
Rob @notnyt
Asim @asoofi1
@TooPoor

I will be most likely capping this event at 25 or 30 people. There are currently a few spots available but there's a good chance of some dropping out or "Pending replies" declining, so send me a PM if you want to attend this GTG.

Other equipment on-hand available to demo if requested: Reaction Audio CX-8 surrounds, Crowson Transducers, Panasonic 65VT60 Plasma, Sony HW-40ES Projector, Seymour H120 Retractable-electric 137" screen, JBL 305s

Other equipment attendees have offered to bring, being considered for demo or comparisons: Which would people like to hear?
Ascend Sierra 2
DIYSG Fusion Quad 4s
DIYSG Volt 10
Golden Ear Triton 5 or Triton 7 or Martin Logan motion 12:
DIY 15" Active, Fusion 8, Berry 212XL, Nexus MTM bookshelf, 6.5" & 5.25" Speakercraft outdoor speakers
SI HT18 or LMS Ultra in sealed boxes
JBL 2226 15" midbass modules
Emotiva XPA-2, Denon AVR-X4200W
Crown DSI amps
Behringer 215

Buy my awesome gear so I can buy more awesome gear! ...please...
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Food & Drinks
Zach- Smoked BBQ pulled pork
Jake- Misc. Food & Drink
Mike (mmartin0)- VT beers
Dan- good vodka and some appetizers

Ryan (Host)
Food: TBD
Current Beer stockpile:
Night Shift Brewing (Everett, MA)
-Cow Tipper
-The 87
-One Hop This Time
-Morph
-Santilli
-Whirlpool

Maine Beer Co. (Freeport, ME)
-Mo

Lord Hobo (Cambridge, MA)
-Boom Sauce

Clown Shoes (Ipswich, MA)
-Mango Kolsch
-Clementine Witbier
-Baked Goods
-Whammy Bar

Stony Creek (Branford, CT)
-Stony Joe

Castle Island (Norwood, MA)
-Vern
-Chuck

Lefty's (Greenfield, MA)
-Mystery Box IPA
-Bean's Brew Imperial Coffee Stout
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Speaker Comparison Methods

How best to go about comparing the speakers within reason?

A few ideas to discuss:
-comparing mono vs stereo pair
-setting up all speakers at the same time vs. setting up one speaker/pair in the same spot, then removing and putting in next set of speakers, etc.
-how long the listening sessions should be for each speaker?
-if doing quick back to back comparisons, how many seconds of a track to play?

-We will likely pull some listening material\playlists from previous GTGs. Please list anything specific you feel is very good to hear to compare speakers.

Buy my awesome gear so I can buy more awesome gear! ...please...
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Will get around to listing soon, PM me if interested: 6 month old, barely used Crest Audio CC4000 Amplifier, Crown XTI 2002 Amplifier, MiniDSP 88a with BM Plugin upgrade (UMIK-1 not included), 6 month old, barely used Emotiva Basx A-500 Amplifier
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Hi Ryan - Unfortunately don't think I will be able to make this one. Much appreciate the invitation though!
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Same here Ryan. Thanks for the invite it's looking to be a killer day but life responsibilities are going on same weekend.
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<link to the Results thread to be posted on June 3rd> This is the planning thread.

I have finalized a date for the next GTG- Saturday June 3rd to be held in Massachusetts. This will be an all-day event. Thinking we'll set-up between 8-10AM, have a meet-and-greet, some informal listening sessions afterwards to give people driving from further away a bit more time to arrive before we start main listening sessions. For the main room we may split into two groups unless the attendee list ends up being smaller, we'll see. We'll eat food & drink beers throughout the day.. We'll likely start wrapping up around 9PM.

Vendors
I reached out to a variety of vendors; these are the ones who stepped up to the plate and will be participating:
JTR Speakers @Jeff Permanian http://jtrspeakers.com/
Next Level Acoustics @Tech5635 http://www.nextlevelacoustics.com/
Dark Energy Screens @stephen77 http://www.darkenergyscreens.com/
Quest Acoustical Interiors @AudioGuru http://www.questai.com/home.php
DIYSound Group @Erich H http://www.diysoundgroup.com/ (Figured they should get an honorable mention since we'll have several attendees bringing their DIYSG creations )

Equipment List: (Work in progress)
Main room/ Primary speaker comparison: JTR 210RT, DIYSG Titan 615LX, JBL 4722 w/upgraded cds, DIYSG 1099, Others TBD.

2nd room speaker demo:
1. Next Level Acoustics: Fusion soundbar and CI-HV10 High Velocity Subwoofer, In-wall monitor and In-ceiling atmos speaker for display/demo, potentially a passive CI-HV 15 Sub as well.
Others TBD.

Screen material to demo: Dark Energy Abyss .9 Ambient Light Rejecting Screen material

Treatments for demo: Various treatments from Quest

Other speakers\subs for demo: JTR Captivator 4000ULF, JTR Captivator S1


Attendee List
1. (Host): Ryan @Ryansboston
2. Jeff Permanian of JTR Speakers @Jeff Permanian
3. Rob Goldman of Next Level Acoustics @Tech5635
4. Lee Weber from Next Level Acoustics/ AVS Forum editorial staff @Lee Weber
5. Jake @chopshop
6. Michael Fusick @Mfusick
7. Mike @Boxozaxu
8. JJ @lemonslush
9. Gana @Tuning
10. Shane @Docethic
11. Daniel Webster @dan webster
12. Dave @reefdvr
13. Mario L. @Modicen
14. Mario's friend
15. Brian @ballen420
16. Steve @NWCgrad
17. Geno @gbreda
18. Zach @seraph
19. Ben @rush2049
20. Mike Martin @martinm0
21. Dan @DanT9
22. Andrew @Gorilla83
23. Joe @Joe879
24. Kevin @Kruppa

Pending replies:
25. Chris @1redz06
26. Mark @Gooddoc
27. Rob @notnyt
28. Ben's wife
29. Asim @asoofi1
30. Daman @Daman S
31. @TooPoor

I will be most likely capping this event at 30 people. We are currently full but there's a good chance of some dropping out or "Pending replies" declining, so send me a PM if you want to be put on the waitlist.

Other equipment on-hand available to demo if requested: Reaction Audio CX-8 surrounds, Crowson Transducers, Panasonic 65VT60 Plasma, Sony HW-40ES Projector, Seymour H120 Retractable-electric 137" screen, JBL 305s

Other equipment attendees have offered to bring, being considered for demo or comparisons: Which would people like to hear?
Ascend Sierra 2
Salk Veracity HT-2TL
DIYSG Fusion Quad 4s
DIYSG Volt 10
Golden Ear Triton 5 or Triton 7 or Martin Logan motion 12:
DIY 15" Active, Fusion 8, Berry 212XL, Nexus MTM bookshelf, 6.5" & 5.25" Speakercraft oudoor speakers
SI HT18 or LMS Ultra in sealed boxes
JBL 2226 15" midbass modules
Emotiva XPA-2, Denon AVR-X4200W
Crown DSI amps
Behringer 215
Hey guys. Getting excited. Any requests on specific VT beers?
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I am looking forward to this event. I will bring a few appetizers and some good vodka. If that works. I initially offered to bring my triton 5 towers if there is any interest in comparing them. If not its not a problem. My other thought is to bring my sons $800 pair Chane a5rx-c towers to the big show.Just to compare a very inexpensive pair of towers. They may surprise some.
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@Ryansboston , I am not going to be able to attend. My wife broke a bone [5th metatarsal] in her right foot. For next two months I am the only driver in the family. Big bummer!!!!!

Instead of a day with cool people, good tunes, and cold beer I will be a local (aka third rate) amusement park for my daughter's end of school year.

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Sorry, I've been travelling for the past week and haven't been on the forums. I just edited the attendee list, looks like we have a few open spots now. Please PM me soon if you'd like to attend.

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Hey guys. Getting excited. Any requests on specific VT beers?
So many great VT beers, but I would LOVE any of these:
Anything from the Alchemist: Crusher, Heady Topper, Focal Banger, Beelzebub, Broken Spoke, etc.
Hill Farmstead Brewery: Ann, Abner, Society & Solitude 5/6, Double Galaxy, Susan, Clover, Mosaic, Everett Porter
Lawson's Finest Liquids: Triple Sunshine IPA, Double Sunshine IPA, Fistful-O-Hop IPA
Fiddlehead Brewing Co: Beer & Pizza, Second Fiddle, Mastermind
Grassroots Brewing: Grassroots Legitimacy IPA


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I am looking forward to this event. I will bring a few appetizers and some good vodka. If that works. I initially offered to bring my triton 5 towers if there is any interest in comparing them. If not its not a problem. My other thought is to bring my sons $800 pair Chane a5rx-c towers to the big show.Just to compare a very inexpensive pair of towers. They may surprise some.
Sounds good Dan. I am interested in hearing the Tritons but am not sure there will be enough time. I actually used to own a pair of Chane A5s and really enjoyed them. Hopefully more people will weigh in and we'll get a better idea of which speakers people should bring.

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Hi Ryan - Unfortunately don't think I will be able to make this one. Much appreciate the invitation though!
Bummer! Always have enjoyed going to your GTGs, was hoping I could return the favor haha.

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Same here Ryan. Thanks for the invite it's looking to be a killer day but life responsibilities are going on same weekend.
Too bad! Will have to get you in our next one

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@Ryansboston , I am not going to be able to attend. My wife broke a bone [5th metatarsal] in her right foot. For next two months I am the only driver in the family. Big bummer!!!!!

Instead of a day with cool people, good tunes, and cold beer I will be a local (aka third rate) amusement park for my daughter's end of school year.
Ouch! Hope the foot heals quickly. Perhaps have the family use lyft & uber for that weekend ?

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Looks like a cool event. The 1099 is the baby of the group Of course its to far from here to be able to go but wish I could. Have fun!

Oh an I wouldnt get to worked up about how to compare. You'll never make a perfect comparison to appease all the critics, myself included, so just have fun with it. IMO.
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Looks like a cool event. The 1099 is the baby of the group Of course its to far from here to be able to go but wish I could. Have fun!

Oh an I wouldnt get to worked up about how to compare. You'll never make a perfect comparison to appease all the critics, myself included, so just have fun with it. IMO.
Thanks tux\Ryan! I'm definitely not gonna get too worked up on the comparison.. we'll be enjoying it for sure. Impossible not to with the ever-growing beer selection!

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I know im very late to this show, but im just starting out in home theater (HTIB no longer does it for me). Ive been into SQ car audio for a bit but now that ive set down roots in mass from fla im interested in the differences. If for some reason there is space available to show off for a newby please pm me.
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I have a pair of JTR s8 Lp's I could bring if anybody wants a listen. I'm so looking forward to this gtg as it's my first one. Also looking forward to meeting fellow AVS members and listening to other speakers and equipment.
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I have a pair of JTR s8 Lp's I could bring if anybody wants a listen. I'm so looking forward to this gtg as it's my first one. Also looking forward to meeting fellow AVS members and listening to other speakers and equipment.
I would definitely be curious to here the 8s! Would be curious to hear them head to head vs Ryans Cx8s.
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I would definitely be curious to here the 8s! Would be curious to hear them head to head vs Ryans Cx8s.
Ok, I will bring them along.
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Food & Drinks
Zach- Smoked BBQ pulled pork
Jake- Misc. Food & Drink

Mike (mmartin0)- VT beers

Ryan (Host)
Food: TBD
Current Beer stockpile:
Night Shift Brewing (Everett, MA)
-Cow Tipper
-The 87
-One Hop This Time
-Morph
-Santilli
-Whirlpool

Maine Beer Co. (Freeport, ME)
-Mo

Lord Hobo (Cambridge, MA)
-Boom Sauce

Clown Shoes (Ipswich, MA)
-Mango Kolsch
-Clementine Witbier
-Baked Goods
-Whammy Bar

Stony Creek (Branford, CT)
-Stony Joe

Castle Island (Norwood, MA)
-Vern
-Chuck

Lefty's (Greenfield, MA)
-Mystery Box IPA
-Bean's Brew Imperial Coffee Stout
Picked up even more beer today. This will be a full-on beer tasting with some of the best beers brewed in New England(mostly)! I have to say I am pretty impressed with the stockpile I've been able to gather! And yes, we will be listening to some speakers too

Here's some of the selection I picked up today:

Trillium Brewery (Canton, MA)
-Double Dry Hopped Scaled
-Launch
-Free Rise
-Double Dry Hopped Stillings Street
-Motueka Dry Hopped Fort Point
-Scaled
-Vicinity
-Sleeper Street

Lawson's Finest Liquids (Warren, VT)
-Sip of Sunshine

Down The Road (Boston, MA)
-Queequeg's Revenge New England IPA

Funky Buddha (Oakland Park, Fl)
-Pineapple Beach

Lefty's
-Double Whammy IPA
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Well, this has been motivation to get my Titans built! They had been sitting in the boxes since my room isn't completed yet. I'll definitely have them functional by tomorrow which will give me a few days to test, iterate, and break-in. Looking forward to it -- will pick up the pork shoulders in a day or two.
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Sorry to say it gentlemen, but I think I will be missing this one. Next week's travel schedule is crazy and if I come, I'll be away from the kids from Friday through the following Saturday. Hope everything goes off well and you all have a blast
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Hey gents, look forward to meeting you all Saturday!

My buddy owns Clown Shoes, I will see if I can hook-up with him in time to get some more beers.

As far as Next Level, I plan on bringing out new Reference Fusion soundbar--which should give the guys an idea of what we do with our In-walls and towers. This is designed with the tweeters used in out IW-HD Monitors and Woofers from the IW-CI-IW55.

I will also bring out our 10" and 15" HV Subs and a few in-walls and on-walls to look at.

PS if you are in need or a sub or bar, I'd love not to bring these home (hint hint, will blow them out to you!).
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I managed to procure a ton of Alchemist beer at Ryan's request. I also plan on bringing the following:

14th Star Brewing (St. Albans, VT)
-Valor Ale
-Tribute

Lost Nation (Morristown, VT)
-Gose
-Roll Away IPA
-The Wind

Burlington Beer Co. (Williston, VT)
-Chasing Rabbits
-Future Glow

Lawson's Finest Liquid (Warren, VT)
-Sip of Sunshine

Drop-In (Middlebury, VT)
-Sunshine and Hoppiness

Bent Hill Brewery (Braintree, VT)
-Hops Rule Everything Around Me

Frost Beer Works (Hinesburg, VT)
-Lush DIPA
-Plush DIPA
-Really Pale Ale
-VT Rye Pale Ale

Folley Brothers (Brandon, VT)
-Fair Maiden
-Prospect

Just NOTE, Ryan gets first dibs on all the beer lol. As he mentioned, most of these craft beers come in 16oz 4pks, so there will need to be some sharing if lots of folks are looking to try the same things. However, I do not expect any shortage of beer so come thirsty!
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Too bad I couldn't make it up and bring yall some of our stuff from Asheville, NC. Beer City USA.
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Too bad I couldn't make it up and bring yall some of our stuff from Asheville, NC. Beer City USA.
That is too bad! I've only been to Raleigh area twice, but hear amazing things about Asheville for beer, food and music.

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Figured I would stir appetites early.
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