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See, this is where I'm a theater noob. I'm one of those guys who thinks amplifiers aren't needed for 90% of rooms when a good all-in-one receiver can get the job done. So when you get into things like pre/pro's, multi-channel amps and even Darbee's my head explodes. If a ~$700 receiver can drive your speakers well and make ears bleed, why the need for extra electronics? Do they make speakers sound better or just louder? Doesn't room correction (Audyssey) do enough? A good exception is the Savoy. That's a big room, I can see why it needs amps and the extras but for any space smaller than, say, 15x20 I don't see the need. Is this like horsepower and cars, not needed but nice to have?
From what I've seen in this hobby is that most people start with receivers and then depending on the speakers they own they'll separate out to pre/pros and amps. Some speakers are harder to drive than others so the extra power from a standalone amp is welcome. I know with my current front speakers that when I went from a receiver to standalone amp, the sound got heavier and clearer, your mileage may vary.
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See, this is where I'm a theater noob. I'm one of those guys who thinks amplifiers aren't needed for 90% of rooms when a good all-in-one receiver can get the job done. So when you get into things like pre/pro's, multi-channel amps and even Darbee's my head explodes. If a ~$700 receiver can drive your speakers well and make ears bleed, why the need for extra electronics? Do they make speakers sound better or just louder? Doesn't room correction (Audyssey) do enough? A good exception is the Savoy. That's a big room, I can see why it needs amps and the extras but for any space smaller than, say, 15x20 I don't see the need. Is this like horsepower and cars, not needed but nice to have?
Hey edge. If your amps have enough power to drive your speakers to the volume you want without straining I would say you are good to go . A little headroom is always a good thing tho.
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See, this is where I'm a theater noob. I'm one of those guys who thinks amplifiers aren't needed for 90% of rooms when a good all-in-one receiver can get the job done. So when you get into things like pre/pro's, multi-channel amps and even Darbee's my head explodes. If a ~$700 receiver can drive your speakers well and make ears bleed, why the need for extra electronics? Do they make speakers sound better or just louder? Doesn't room correction (Audyssey) do enough? A good exception is the Savoy. That's a big room, I can see why it needs amps and the extras but for any space smaller than, say, 15x20 I don't see the need. Is this like horsepower and cars, not needed but nice to have?
I keep talking about going pre/pro and amps, and just never do because of cost. Then again, I did buy an Anthem MRX-1120 in March 2016...

It isn't so much the power rating, but it is how clean that power is and when driving potentially larger front speakers, is it still able to give enough power to the surrounds or overheads...

I've heard rooms with a pre/pro and amps and was blown away at how much better it could drive a set of speakers vs. a nice receiver (actually heard this comparison in person from another Iowa home theater guy's setup, but he doesn't come around AVS).

I would just say that things sounded a bit "cleaner" or "clearer"... Hard to put it into words.

Is it a "must do" in home theater? Absolutely not. If it was, I would have done it last year instead of getting the Anthem. I do know that once you invest in a decent amp (or two or three depending on their capabilities), then you can upgrade just the processing part and not have to buy the amplification each time like you do with a regular receiver. It is defiantly more money up front to get the amps, and it won't necessarily save you money down the road either as you will probably find yourself buying a nicer, higher end pre/pro each time instead of a single receiver. LOL

Hey, when are you going to update your build thread? Did the chairs come in yet?
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This sounds like great fun, and it looks like there are still seats open.
I would like to take a spot at all the events if possible.
Mark me down.

Thanks for coordinating this!
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Thanks for the feedback. That all makes sense. So after waiting nearly 4 months from ordering to delivery, one of the six chairs was the wrong configuration. I did a row of 3 all with armrests and a sofa style (only ends have arm-rests). They messed up one of the chairs on the sofa style by giving me a second double-arm chair. I could just roll with that having a love-seat-into-double-arm row since I have the room. The company I ordered from is sending me the correct one-arm chair for the sofa end and told me to keep the extra chair so its' hard to be mad at them. Sad part is I don't have room for it so it will probably go on Craigslist. I was waiting to post pictures until that sixth chair was in.

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This sounds like great fun, and it looks like there are still seats open.
I would like to take a spot at all the events if possible.
Mark me down.

Thanks for coordinating this!
You bet, you're on the list!

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I keep talking about going pre/pro and amps, and just never do because of cost. Then again, I did buy an Anthem MRX-1120 in March 2016...

It isn't so much the power rating, but it is how clean that power is and when driving potentially larger front speakers, is it still able to give enough power to the surrounds or overheads...

I've heard rooms with a pre/pro and amps and was blown away at how much better it could drive a set of speakers vs. a nice receiver (actually heard this comparison in person from another Iowa home theater guy's setup, but he doesn't come around AVS).

I would just say that things sounded a bit "cleaner" or "clearer"... Hard to put it into words.

Is it a "must do" in home theater? Absolutely not. If it was, I would have done it last year instead of getting the Anthem. I do know that once you invest in a decent amp (or two or three depending on their capabilities), then you can upgrade just the processing part and not have to buy the amplification each time like you do with a regular receiver. It is defiantly more money up front to get the amps, and it won't necessarily save you money down the road either as you will probably find yourself buying a nicer, higher end pre/pro each time instead of a single receiver. LOL

Hey, when are you going to update your build thread? Did the chairs come in yet?
Heard good things about the Anthem MRX-1120. How do you like it the their ARC room correction mic?

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Oh my gosh. ARC truly is as good as others report. As for the mic itself, it seems pretty good in my opinion, but then again I've only used it with the MRX. Whatever it is measuring and then what the ARC software is doing is outstanding.
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I would like to attend Aug 26th if there is room. I have conflicts on the other dates.


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I would like to attend Aug 26th if there is room. I have conflicts on the other dates.
Draden, you can replace BRAD with my spot as I will no longer be able to make the August date (others still work). I have friends coming from out of state that weekend (just found out) who I only see once or twice a year.

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No problem, thanks for posting!

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Draden, you can replace BRAD with my spot as I will no longer be able to make the August date (others still work). I have friends coming from out of state that weekend (just found out) who I only see once or twice a year.
Totally understandable, thanks for letting me know early. See you in September at Thrillcat's.

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Put myself down for my favorite Star Wars movie, Empire....big stretch, I think it's most people's number 1. @jeahrens , I plan to go to your place as well but I am leaving the last spot open for anyone who's interested. I'll folding chair it somewhere in the back if we can make it work.

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Is it safe to assume all of the theaters are in the Des Moines area?
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Pretty sure they are. Not sure how far out "Central Iowa" includes. I know a couple guys on here are in Cedar Rapids (but not showing for this venture).

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I know Draden is in Indianola, I'm in Ames. We should be the farthest out.

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I guess locations would be helpful.

draden1 - Indianola
thrillcat - Ames
jeahrens - Ankeny
dlbeck - Altoona
joshp14 - West Des Moines, pretty sure on that.

I'll update the first post also.

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So I stumbled on something in my news feed the other day. Seems that a gent named Adywan has spent a significant amount of time (8 years) re-tooling The Empire Strikes Back. I haven't had time to watch the whole thing, but what I have seen is very impressive. Here's a blurb on it:

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=34524

Now the bad news is that it is 720p and appears to be AC3 and not lossless audio (though it is 5.1). So food for thought on whether the group wants to see a new iteration with a hit in quality or stick with the Blu Ray. I have to say the additions are pretty cool. It's what George SHOULD have done

Also Drew we can find someplace for you for Jedi. You're more than welcome to come.

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Hey Drew, I'm going to give up my seat for Rogue One...we're doing a charity bike ride that day and don't think the logistics will work to make it to the movie.

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Not a problem, see you in a few weeks at your place.

2 seats left for Rogue One next Saturday in Indianola. Also coming up quickly there are 3 seats left for A New Hope on 9/16 in Ames.

If interested just post and I'll get things updated.
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So I stumbled on something in my news feed the other day. Seems that a gent named Adywan has spent a significant amount of time (8 years) re-tooling The Empire Strikes Back. I haven't had time to watch the whole thing, but what I have seen is very impressive. Here's a blurb on it:

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=34524

Now the bad news is that it is 720p and appears to be AC3 and not lossless audio (though it is 5.1). So food for thought on whether the group wants to see a new iteration with a hit in quality or stick with the Blu Ray. I have to say the additions are pretty cool. It's what George SHOULD have done

Also Drew we can find someplace for you for Jedi. You're more than welcome to come.
Nice, I'll find a place in the back if all of your seats fill up. Interesting, I'll have to read about this as I'm always amazed at what people can do on their own with this stuff.

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So I stumbled on something in my news feed the other day. Seems that a gent named Adywan has spent a significant amount of time (8 years) re-tooling The Empire Strikes Back. I haven't had time to watch the whole thing, but what I have seen is very impressive. Here's a blurb on it:

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=34524

Now the bad news is that it is 720p and appears to be AC3 and not lossless audio (though it is 5.1). So food for thought on whether the group wants to see a new iteration with a hit in quality or stick with the Blu Ray. I have to say the additions are pretty cool. It's what George SHOULD have done

Also Drew we can find someplace for you for Jedi. You're more than welcome to come.
Sort of like a Harmy's Despecialized edition... Cool.
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Sort of like a Harmy's Despecialized edition... Cool.
Yeah kinda, Harmy restores them to how they were in the theaters as best he can (and he does a great job IMO). This guy is also taking out what people didn't like, but he's he putting in lots of his own touches. The Star Destroyer engines are lit up in all shots. The Tie Fighter engines glow red like they did in other films. Tie Bombers added to the fleet shots. Snowspeeders have active gauges. The biggest one I noticed was in the Hoth battle the scout walkers have been changed to match Return of the Jedi and Rogue One (the original film had a different configuration they decided to change in Jedi). They also added more scout walkers to other scenes as well as the big walkers now leaving imprints in the snow. It's good stuff. And that's just in the 20 or so minutes I watched

If you guys are SW nerds check it out. If enough of us want to see it, maybe DLBeck will show it. Either way at least the official Blu Ray of Empire is the least tampered with. I've gotten to the point where I can't even take the Jedi changes, let alone ANH. So those 2 are Harmy all the way!


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Oh wow. That sounds really cool.
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Yeah kinda, Harmy restores them to how they were in the theaters as best he can (and he does a great job IMO). This guy is also taking out what people didn't like, but he's he putting in lots of his own touches. The Star Destroyer engines are lit up in all shots. The Tie Fighter engines glow red like they did in other films. Tie Bombers added to the fleet shots. Snowspeeders have active gauges. The biggest one I noticed was in the Hoth battle the scout walkers have been changed to match Return of the Jedi and Rogue One (the original film had a different configuration they decided to change in Jedi). They also added more scout walkers to other scenes as well as the big walkers now leaving imprints in the snow. It's good stuff. And that's just in the 20 or so minutes I watched

If you guys are SW nerds check it out. If enough of us want to see it, maybe DLBeck will show it. Either way at least the official Blu Ray of Empire is the least tampered with. I've gotten to the point where I can't even take the Jedi changes, let alone ANH. So those 2 are Harmy all the way!
Definitely open to it. Whatever the group wants or
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Drew, put me down for Rogue One and A New Hope. Just wanted to make sure y schedule wasn't going to conflict plus give any of the new folks the chance to speak up.

Being that I am just up the street from @dlbeck I can always fill a seat for Empire if there is still one available.

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Drew, put me down for Rogue One and A New Hope. Just wanted to make sure y schedule wasn't going to conflict plus give any of the new folks the chance to speak up.

Being that I am just up the street from @dlbeck I can always fill a seat for Empire if there is still one available.

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Well, it looks like those attending the showing of A New Hope will also get to take a look at my new NEEO remote...hopefully. Finally starts shipping today.

https://planet.neeo.com/t/k9lvv0

I love my iPhone, but it will never replace my turntable.

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