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DK why the zooming is causing the herringbone, but yeah, it's gone!

One bad thing about having your cam so close to your display is that the color uniformity across the screen gets affected. Fleshtones stay much more linear when the cam is farther away and the zoom is used to make up the difference. On some of my head shots, the fleshtones are way different out at the edges compared to the middle, because I am shooting a 73" at only 10' (from behind the couch). At 15' it would be much more linear in its color rendition, edge to center. But my living room window just happens to be in the way...

You can see this on the TFE shot, where in the left picture area the scientist's chin is more purple than the rest of his face.

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You can see this on the TFE shot, where in the left picture area the scientist's chin is more purple than the rest of his face.

Here's the same shot after Element's AutoSmartFix filter "fixes" it:



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Fully corrected with Photoshop


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Corrected??? It's all mulchy now!



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Corrected??? It's all mulchy now!



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Corrected??? It's all mulchy now!



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Oh yeah. In ISF we try to always call a spade a spade... Joel would love this conversation, there would be a big grin on his face...



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Oh yeah. In ISF we try to always call a spade a spade... Joel would love this conversation, there would be a big grin on his face...



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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mulchy

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Really! Maybe I should post my definition up there!




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From "The Best of Soundstage" BD:








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Who hoo!



Nice, Michael!



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Oldies but goodies. Went back to my HDs for a few scenes that were (and still are) challenging.








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Great shooting Michael!!!

I guess you found the right setting for the camera?

Looks awesome.

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Thank you both. Guess I was just making my life too complicated from the beginning. The cheap camera does just fine.

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Another from days gone by. Borrowed my friend's Swordfish HD. Gun's still too blue (on the screenshot, not the set), and Halle's a little green, but not too bad.



I mean, it's Halle, so how bad could it be?

No changes to settings on the set, Elements only to crop and resize, camera set to ISO 80, white balance = daylight.

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haven't posted any in awhile so i thought why not. not the best picture taker of screen shots ,but here are a few from my Hitachi CRT-57f59.

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haven't posted any in awhile so i thought why not. not the best picture taker of screen shots ,but here are a few from my Hitachi CRT-57f59.

They're still entitled to look like everyone else's, so here they are:









Nice flesh...tones.

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I'm new to this so don't kill me. Iwould like to know how I look my tv is a HITACI 51f710ai did some color decoding. I also need a good optic cleaning I want to do it myself but a little nervous about it.
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Welcome to AVS, you come to the right place, at least one of theme. As farvas I know your tv is esentaly the same as the latest model xxF59, with the exception that your tv has a true HD OTA receiver.

Take your time an read and learn as much as you can, two must read threads for Hitachi owners are the "Don't dumped your CRT RP tv" http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=695922 and the "xxF59 Hitahi RPCRT tweaks" http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=790702

I know they are monster threads, but they have invaluable information.

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Lookin' pretty good, Big Daddy.

You've got some hotspotting going on, so I would pull your cam away from the set a ways and use your zoom for sizing instead. That will give you much more even lighting between the middle and the outside edges on your shots.

There's a way to get your shots right in the post itself, like Michael and I do. Do a "Quote" and study the format in our posts. Then do it that way, and there won't need to be any intermediary steps.

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Don't see any shots to comment on.

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I also need a good optic cleaning I want to do it myself but a little nervous about it.

You should be. Some research here and some phone coaching from Mr. Bob will go a long way.
This will introduce you to a whole new hobby:
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I have done some reading on the tweak thread, and don't dump your crt thread as well. let me know what you think.
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I also have a 46 in hitachi 46f510 to practice on. So I will be in touch Mr Bob.
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let me know what you think.

I think you need to select the resize option in imageshack, since I can't do anything with the images posted here. Use the 1024 wide setting (17 inch monitor).
And taking good pictures of an RPCRT is VERY difficult, so don't get discouraged.
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is this better?
By bwoods1980 at 2010-12-08





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Its very difficult taking screenshots with the camera I have.
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is this better?

Its very difficult taking screenshots with the camera I have.

MUCH better.
I hate to break this to you, but it's very difficult with ANY camera.
The "Use" is a little more out of focus than the "directed," which is to be expected with our sets. Bob could probably get it a little better; I'm not sure how much better mine might be. Real world, probably doesn't matter much. The pictures are a little "soft." If your screen isn't sharper, it's time for a cleaning or trying some of the settings we've been talking about.
Your whites are a little blue. That's a white balance problem with the camera (assuming, of course, that the whites on your set are white!). You can try other settings to see if one works better. On my camera, I alternate between "daylight" and "open shade." Also, you usually need to reduce the "exposure" setting somewhat.
Manual focus, flash off, self timer, tripod and a completely dark room, of course.
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Manual focus, flash off, time delay, tripod and a completely dark room, of course.
BTW, it's taken me two years.
Two LONG years!
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Timer, actually, rather than time delay, to eliminate even the possibility of camera shake. 2 seconds is fine, you don't need to use a full 10 seconds.

Michael has come a LONG way! He was ready to give it up, 2 years ago!



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I don't know where I recently saw a discussion about edge enhancement, but I was struck by the fact that Bob uses "low" on his set.
Here's my set with Sharpness at 70, where I keep it now:



Increasing it to 90 starts to affect the edges:



But reducing the Sharpness to 50 and turning Edge Enhancement to Low does this:



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I had it off until the recent changes. If I remember correctly I have sharpness at 68 and EE at low.

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