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This is a thread to share and discuss various user menu and service menu settings/calibration for these two displays.

Please read the following disclaimer before proceeding:


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Originally Posted by rmz76 View Post

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D I S C L A I M E R
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THE INFORMATION IN THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED FOR EVERYONE

WARNING: Entering your HDTV's service menu and making modifications without proper equipment, training and experience (this includes entering the service menu to copy someone elses settings) is strongly discouraged by most AVSForum moderators as well as most professional calibrators

By the entering the service menu and making adjustments you may inadvertently cause permanent damage to your HDTV that may not be covered under the manufacturer's warranty

While some data gathered suggest that when copied, Samsung 61A750 and 67A750 service menu settings can result in improvements over factory default settings; results will vary from set to set and are likely to tied to firmware version and screen size.

Those participating in this thread are aware of the risk involved and are taking part in an on-going experiment to learn more about these televisions and to discover within what parameters service menu settings can transfer from set to set. No one here is recommending you enter the service menu and attempt this on your HDTV, however if you want to join in the fun and you accept personal responsibility for all risk, feel free to contribute.

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Lee Bailey's Calibration Steps:


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Originally Posted by Lee Bailey View Post

Steps to calibrating this set:

In the user menus:

First, decide what mode(Dynamic, Standard, Movie) you are going to calibrate to for your selected input.

Second, decide what Gamut (color space) you want to use, i.e., sRGB.

Third, decide on which Color Tone you want to use, i.e., Cool1 or 2, Normal, Warm1 or 2(Warm only available in Movie Mode).

Set your LED level to something other than Auto

Turn OFF any Dynamic settings.

Adjust your color and tint to their halfway points.

Adjust your black level, then your contrast to what you want. Then be sure to go back and check each after adjusting the other, until you balance it out.

Now, make an initial run of grayscale and gamut. Save it as a separate file in HCFR, for your reference later.

Get into the Service Menus.

Get to the CCA menu, and turn it off.

Now, if you wish to keep using your factory settings for Red, Green, and Blue x,y,Y then do NOT follow the next steps a,b,c.

a. Go to the DDP3021 menu, cursor down to the test pattern selection. Cursor right and you should have a full screen of RED. You should bring up your Gamut measures, and take a measurement for RED. Cursor right again, and I believe the screen will turn GREEN. Take a meaurement. Cursor right again, and measure what should be a BLUE screen. (Note: all your measurements need to be in cd/m2, NO ftL)

b. Get back to the CCA menu and enter these measurements, then cursor down to the Color Sensor Save item, right cursor to select it, then right cursor once and wait for it to say OK. (You should see the screen pulse with white 3 times). This will re-enable the CCA. Hit the menu button to take you back to the main CCA menu, cursor down to WB Spread, right cursor, then right cursor again, wait for the OK to appear.

c.You will now have to exit out of the service menu, and retake your grayscale and gamut measurements again.

This next step is what I use to be able to take my measurements while still in the Service Menus. To do this, you MUST use MOVIE mode, with either Warm1 or Warm2 Color Tone.

Write down all your User Menu settings for the input you are calibrating to.

Enter the Service Menu
Select the Option Byte menu(be very careful when you cursor right, because the first item on this menu is the FACTORY RESET!)
Cursor down to the Expert Adj option.
Cursor right to select it, cursor left or right to turn it on.

Hit your menu button to take you back to the service menus.
Cursor down to Expert Settings.
Right cursor to select the Calibration item.
Right/Left cursor to turn Calibration ON.
Cursor down once, you should be in the P-MODE menu item.
Cursor right until Calibration appears.
Cursor down once, you should be in the Color Tone menu item.
Cursor right/left to select Warm1 or Warm2.
Cursor down until you see Contrast.
Cursor right/left to set it what you had in the User Menu.
Cursor down until you see Brightness.
Cursor right/left to set it what you had in the User Menu.
Cursor down until you see Color.
Cursor right/left to set it what you had in the User Menu.
Cursor down until you see Sharpness.
Cursor right/left to set it what you had in the User Menu.

Hit the MENU button to get back to the main Service menu page.

Cursor down till you get to the Expert D-Settings.
Cursor right to select.
Cursor right on the Black Adjust option.
Cursor right/left to set it to OFF.
Cursor down once, you should see Dynamic Contrast.
Cursor right/left to set it to OFF.
Cursor down once, you should see Gamma.
Cursor right/left to set it to 0.
Cursor down once, you should see Flesh Tone.
Cursor right/left to set it to 0.
Cursor down once, you should see Edge Enhancement.
Cursor right/left to set it to OFF.

Hit the MENU button to get back to the main Service Menu page.

Cursor down until you get to the Expert Others menu item.
Cursor right to select.
Cursor right on Size.
Cursor right/left to select Just Scan.
Cursor down until you see NR.
Cursor right/left to set it to OFF.

Hit the MENU button to get back to the main Service Menu page.

Now, cursor down until you get back to the Expert Settings menu.

Cursor right to select.
Cursor down to the P-Mode setting.
Cursor right to select.
Cursor right again. ( you should see the screen sort of pulse).

You can now take measurements that match your user menu settings while in the service menus. To minimize interference, I will select a single menu item, so its just a small bar in on the screen.

OK, now to calibrate the Gamut and grayscale.

Go to the Desaturation menu, verify the Desaturation MODE is set to the Gamut you are going to use in the User Menu.

Take a full measurements run now of grayscale and gamut. You should save it, and compare it to what it was in the user menus, just to make sure. There may be some minor differences, which happens, but nothing glaringly different, like the Y has jumped way up.

To adjust your primaries and secondaries, you will need to go to the Desaturation menu.

Cursor down to the first color you need to change for the Gamut you are using.

Cursor right on the x setting for that color.

Using continuous readings, you can vary the x or y to move that color. When you change an item, you need to cursor up or down to make it take effect immediately. Then take a few readings until the readings settle back down.

Do this for each primary color, then take another set of Gamut measurements.

If the primaries look good, go after the secondaries.

After adjusting them, you'll want to remeasure grayscale and gamut again. If the gamut is good, but grayscale is out of adjustment, you'll have to correct it next. If gamut still needs tweaking, go back over it again. Then of course you need to remeasure everything again.

Grayscale coarse adjustment:
Go back to the main Service Menu, cursor up/down to the Cinema CCA menu. Cursor right to select it.
Cursor down to either the Warm1 or Warm2 x,y adjustments(whichever you set up in the Expert settings).

Bring up your grayscale measurement graphs. Set your input signal to send a t50% stim screen. Start taking continuous readings at 50% stim.

Now, as you cursor left/right on the x and y coordinates, you will see the colors align to your white point. When that's completed, you will want to take a full set of grayscale and gamut runs to see what you have to adjust next.

You will use the WB menu to adjust the offset and gains of the grayscale the same way you set the 50% stim, until you get grayscale smoothed out. I would recommend measuring 30% and 80% and adjusting to those.

When you finally get done with the settings, exit out of the service menus , and take another set of measurements. Verify your black and contrast levels as well.

You'll note, when you go to the User menus and select the MODE, it will now say Calibration instead of Movie. It will also lock out most of the normally changeable settings.

Happy calibrating!

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mike_pro:

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Samsung 61" HL61A750 and 67" HL67A750 LED DLP Owners thread/FAQ

General Notes: Dynamic mode is pretty much regarded as useless, and intended for store demo purposes only. Standard is probably more preferable. Movie mode reportedly has the best D6500 color temp tracking.
You should adjust the contrast, brightness, color, gamma, etc. control for what looks correct for your set suing a calibration disk like the AVCHD disk, or Digital Video Essentials (DVE). So, some of the specific settings below are what worked for me, but may not work for you. However, as a general rule, recommended settings everyone should consider using are:
Edge Enhancement: off
Size: Just Scan
Color Gamut: sRGB

My settings:
Picture mode: Standard
Usage:What I like for normal Cable/HD viewing. Provides extra "pop", and 3D-ish look but clearly over saturated.

Contrast 97
Brightness 48
Sharp 0
Color 49
Tint 46/54

Detailed Settings
Black Adj off
Dyn Contrast Low (Adds the "pop" many people are looking for)
LED Control Auto (Sometimes turn down to medium at night)
Gamma 0
White Bal -4
Flesh Tone -3
Edge Ehancement off
xvYCC off

Picture Options
Color Tone Normal
Size Just Scan
Digital NR Auto
DNIe Off
HDMI Black Lvl Normal * See notes below
Film Mode Auto
Blue Only Mode off
Color Gamut sRGB
Picture mode Movie
Usage: Movies, Blu Ray playback. Generally, the most accurate mode

Contrast 100
Brightness 47
Sharp 0
Color 49
Tint 50/50

Detailed Settings
Black Adj off
Dyn Contrast off
LED Control Medium
Gamma -3
White Bal 0
Flesh Tone 0
Edge Ehancement off
xvYCC off

Picture Options
Color Tone Warm 2
Size Just Scan

Digital NR Auto
DNIe off
HDMI Black Lvl Normal * See notes below
Film Mode Auto
Blue Only Mode off
Color Gamut sRGB

Check out the Google Docs spreadsheet of other users settings
Add your own to the spreadsheet, but please do not delete or change the format of the sheet, or I will have to lock it down.

HDMI black level may be grayed out and set to Auto for cable viewing. It is also grayed out for Blu Ray playback, (providing your machine is outputting a YPb signal). This setting only affects, and is only changeable with RGB signals, such as at the PS3 XMB dashboard, or a PC.

HDMI black level = normal tells the TV to expect "normal" PC RGB 0-255 levels. HDMI black level = Low tells the TV to expect it's input to have video RGB 16-235 levels, and the TV will expand these by lowering 16 to 0 and raising 235 to 255. When viewing an RGB encoded source, if your picture is too light and blacks are not very black, or if blacks are too dark and you loose a lot of shadow detail, try switching to the other setting.


PS3 Recommended Settings:

From PS3 Settings->Display settings menu: (Note you can also adjust these while watching a movie by using the triangle button and going to the AV Display settings icon)
Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White: On (Allows blacker than black and whiter than whites to be passed)
RGB Full Range: Full (** This is to optimize it for PC RGB levels, such as games **)

PS3 Settings->BD/DVD Settings
BD/DVD Video Output Format (HMDI): Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr [Automatic is also OK. Note that on Auto, for Blu Ray's, it will send video as Y Pb, and for games and the XMB dashboard it will be RGB.]

TV Settings:
Detailed Settings:
--- xvYCC: Off (On seems to make no difference to me. Only devices that use this anyways are some camcorders. Turn it on if you have such a device.)
Picture Options:
--- HDMI Black Level: Normal

With the RGB Full Range set to Full, then the HDMI Black Level in the TV's Picture Options menu should be set to Normal. With the RGB Full Range set to Limited, then the HDMI Black Level in the TV's Picture Options menu should be set to Low.
Either way is "OK", as long as you keep them consistent. You should see virtually no difference between RGB Full/HDMI Normal and RGB Limited/HDMI Low. You should not have to adjust your contrast or brightness when switching between settings. The only difference that may be apparent, is some slight color banding in one mode or the other. Note that most people on this site will tell you that RGB limited is the correct setting. This *may* be true for *their* sets, but is really a recommendation to optimize it for video level encoded sources. However, since you can set these up to use YPb output, and our sets can support the full PC RGB range, therefor I feel it is better to recommend setting it up to optimize PC level material, such as games.

Last Updated: 03/03/2009

Lee Bailey:

61" specific...

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Originally Posted by Lee Bailey View Post

Alright, here's the latest as of 04/19/2009.
BE WARNED, YOU ARE ENTERING THE SERVICE MENU!

All setting changes since my initial post will have an asterisk(*) next to them.

Be sure to write down all settings that you are changing BEFORE you do this!

IMPORTANT! DO NOT CURSOR LEFT TO SCROLL THROUGH THE MENU LISTINGS, CURSOR UP/DOWN ONLY! YOU MAY ACTIVATE SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T INTEND TO.

Get into the Service Menu. Hit MUTE,1,8,2,POWER (TV must be off first)

Cursor down to CCA menu, cursor right to select it.
Turn off CCA (Cursor right on the CCA On item to select it, then cursor right/left to toggle state).
Hit Menu button to jump back to CCA menu.
Plug these values (CCA Menu values) into CCA (cursor down to selection, cursor RIGHT on item, cursor LEFT/RIGHT to change numbers, then cursor down to get to next item to change).

Turn on CCA by cursoring RIGHT on CCA Control. Then cursor RIGHT and wait for the ON to appear in menu.

Hitting MENU once will back you out to the CCA menu, then you can select the next item, OR, you can cursor down to get the next adjustment item.

Note: If for some reason the CCA menu letters turn all strange in color(like BLUE), turn CCA off and put back in your old settings, then turn CCA back on. You won't be able to go any further with these CCA adjustments.


 
CCA Menu
Rx 699
Ry 299 *
RY 90.2
Gx 196 *
Gy 724 *
GY 282.5 *
Bx 136 *
By 51 *
BY 29.1 *
Perform WB Spread (cursor right on WB Spread, then cursor right again, wait for OK to appear).

Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Cursor down to the Desaturation menu. Cursor RIGHT to select it.

Enter the settings below with a CURSOR RIGHT on the item, then using cursor LEFT/RIGHT to adjust.

Desaturation Menu (sRGB items only)
 
(sRGB)Red-x 642 *
(sRGB)Red-y 330 *
(sRGB)Green-x 296
(sRGB)Green-y 600 *
(sRGB)Blue-x 149 *
(sRGB)Blue-y 58 *
(sRGB)Cyan-x 220 *
(sRGB)Cyan-y 327 *
(sRGB)Magenta-x 316 *
(sRGB)Magenta-y 151 *
(sRGB)Yellow-x 459 *
(sRGB)Yellow-y 579 *
(WARM2)DW-X 312 *
(WARM2)DW-Y 329 *
Toggle Desaturation control off and on.

Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Go to Cinema CCA menu and enter these settings using the Cursor right to select, LEFT/RIGHT to change.
Hitting MENU once will back you out to the Cinema CCA menu, then you can select the next item, OR, you can cursor down to get the next adjustment item.

Cinema CCA
 
Warm2 DWhiteX 307 *
Warm2 DWhitey 328 *
Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Go to WB Menu and enter these
WB Menu Settings for Movie Mode

 
(M)R_offset 513 *
(M)G_offset 513 *
(M)B_offset 514 *
(M)R_Gain 512
(M)G_Gain 513 *
(M)B_Gain 512
Left this item in for first timers.
Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Cursor DOWN to the DDP3021 menu.
Cursor RIGHT to select it.
Cursor DOWN to GAMMA.
Cursor RIGHT to select GAMMA.
Cursor RIGHT/LEFT to change it to (0)Film.

If you had OVERLAP at 0%, change it back
Hit the Menu button once.
Cursor DOWN to OVERLAP
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor LEFT/RIGHT to change OVERLAP to 15%


Left this item in for first timers.
Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Cursor down to the SP Actuator Menu
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor Down to DB on/off.
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor LEFT/RIGHT to change to OFF.


Hit the MENU button until you get back to Main Menu area.

Power the TV off. I usually wait about 30 seconds, then power the TV back on.

Go to each input, and toggle through the modes.. Movie,Standard,Dynamic. Then stay at Movie. You can start with my settings and adjust as you want. Though changing Contrast and Brightness too much can cause the Grayscale to shift.

If everything looks good, you can go back into the CCA menu and perform another WB Spread to push it out to all the other inputs.

These are my current settings for my Satellite box(Dish VIP-722) and Panasonic Blu-Ray.


User Menus

Panasonic BluRay

INPUT: HDMI2-BluRay
Mode-MOVIE
Contrast-75
Brightness-44 *
Color-45 *
TINT-50
SHARPNESS-20

DETAILED SETTINGS:
Black Adjust:Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
LED Control: Low
Gamma:0
White Balance:0
Fleshtone:0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC:Off

PICTURE OPTIONS:
Color Tone: Warm2
Size: Just Scan
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
DNIe: N/A
HDMI Black Level: Normal(not adjustable with my Blu-Ray)
Film Mode: Auto
Color Gamut: sRGB

Dish VIP-722 DVR

INPUT: HDMI1-DISH
Mode-MOVIE
Contrast-75
Brightness-44 *
Color-45 *
TINT-50
SHARPNESS-20

DETAILED SETTINGS:
Black Adjust:Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
LED Control: Low
Gamma:0
White Balance:0
Fleshtone:0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC:Off

PICTURE OPTIONS:
Color Tone: Warm2
Size: Just Scan
Digital Noise Reduction: Low
DNIe: N/A
HDMI Black Level: Low
Film Mode: Auto
Color Gamut: sRGB


So far the settings have worked very well for the HL61A750 users, and some mixed results with the 67" version.

Even though I initially set brightness up for 42, anywhere up to 50 will still be good, with the minimal black crush from 45 to 50.

Graphs
Grayscale:


Gamut:


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As usual, be very careful on what you are changing in the Service Menu!

First off, the hex code for creating a Service Menu button(for those of you that use universal remotes, and have a way to convert this to the format your remote needs)

"Service Menu" hex code:
0000 006D 0000 0022 00AB 00AB 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 0016 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 003F 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 003F 0016 003F 0016 0715

To enter Service Mode, you would hit the INFO button followed quickly by the new SERVICE button. To exit service menu, you would press the SERVICE button twice.


Modifying and Keeping your Movie Mode settings:

You will need to set this for each input that you use.

With the TV off,
Enter the Service Menu using Mute-1-8-2-Power on the remote.

Cursor RIGHT on OptionByte Menu
Cursor DOWN until you get to Expert Adj. (OFF if you've never enabled it)
Cursor RIGHT to Select it.
Cursor RIGHT to toggle on/off, Leave it set to ON.
Hit MENU button on remote to take you out of this menu.
Cursor DOWN until you get to Expert Settings.
Cursor RIGHT to select Calibration.
Cursor RIGHT to toggle it ON
*From this point, you can just cursor DOWN to get to the next item, no need to hit MENU on the remote.
Cursor DOWN to P-MODE
Cursor RIGHT to select it.
Cursor RIGHT to toggle Movie/Calibration

The difference between Movie and Calibration in this menu will be:

Calibration mode will gray out picture settings in the user menus, using settings you set up in the Expert Menus.
You will notice that your Picture Mode settings will now be: Dynamic, Standard, Calibration(instead of Movie). When you power back on your TV, you will come up in Picture Mode 'Calibration', but only on the input you started the system menu in. On the other inputs, you will have to change your picture mode to Calibration.

P-MODE Movie will only retain your Contrast, Brightness, Sharpness, Color, and Tint Settings, you may have to go into Detailed Settings and Picture Options and set those to where you want.


Cursor DOWN to Color Tone.
Cursor RIGHT or LEFT to change to WARM2(or whatever Color Tone you want)
Cursor DOWN to Contrast
Cursor RIGHT/LEFT to set your chosen value
Cursor DOWN to Brightness
Cursor RIGHT/LEFT to set your chosen value
Cursor DOWN to Color
Cursor RIGHT/LEFT to set your chosen value
Cursor DOWN to Tint
CURSOR LEFT/RIGHT to set your chosen value
CURSOR DOWN to Sharpness
CURSOR LEFT/RIGHT to set your chosen value
Hit MENU button twice to get back to main menu

Cursor DOWN to Expert D-Setting
Cursor RIGHT to Select
Change each item to what you want when using Picture Mode 'Calibration', using cursor controls.
When done, hit MENU on remote to get back to main menu.
Cursor DOWN to Expert Others
Change each item that's not grayed out to what you want when using Picture Mode 'Calibration'
When done, hit MENU on remote to get back to main menu.

Power off the TV.
Power on the TV, check your settings, modify what you need to in Detailed Settings and Picture Options.

Additional:

Changing your default STANDARD Mode Contrast, Brightness, Sharpness, Color, and Tint Settings:

Enter the Service Menu
Cursor DOWN to EPA STANDARD
Cursor RIGHT to SELECT
Cursor RIGHT on Standard Contrast
Cursor RIGHT/LEFT to level you want
Cursor DOWN to next item, cursor LEFT/RIGHT to adjust.
When you've gone through all the items, hit MENU on remote.
Power off TV.

Power back on TV,
Change to the next input you use. Repeat steps above.

Finally,Enjoy your TV.

Last Updated: 04/21/2009


Varus:


67" specific...
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Originally Posted by Varus View Post

Settings and Testing Results!

Hey everyone, here are my new settings. Don't use these unless you have the 1007.4 firmware.
Gamma at 0[Film]

CCA
redx 689
redy 309
redY 61.8
greenx 207
greeny 734
greenY 186.5
bluex 137
bluey 32
blueY 15.7

CinemaCCA
dwhitex 333
dwhitey 351

Desaturation
sRGB
redx 647
redy 330
greenx 296
greeny 613
bluex 151
bluey 63
cyanx 230
cyany 359
magentax 353
magentay 172
yellowx 468
yellowy 581
WB
Movie
subbright 128
roff 517
goff 515
boff 521
subcontrast 135
rgain 504
ggain 510
bgain 521

Sharpness
sub color 47

In the user menu everything is the same as before except:
Contrast=85, Brightness=45, Color=47

Now for the testing--I went over to my friend's house yesterday to help set up his new 67 with 1007.4 firmware. I first plugged in the CNET settings. The Delta E's are
GREYSCALE Gamma=2.80
0=40.5, 10=1.9, 20=7.2, 30=16.8, 40=15.6, 50=16.5, 60=16.0, 70=15.5, 80=16.2, 90=15.2, 100=15.4
COLOR
Red=28.1, Green=14.7, Blue=19.8, Yellow=2.3, Cyan=18.5, Magenta=30.9

After that, I entered in my service menu/user menu settings and measured:
GREYSCALE Gamma=2.23
0=34.2, 10=6.1, 20=1.2, 30=1.9, 40=3.0, 50=3.2, 60=2.9, 70=3.1, 80=2.3, 90=3.2, 100=2.9
COLOR
Red=2.3, Green=5.5, Blue=8.7, Yellow=9.4, Cyan=6.0, Magenta=6.5

Amusingly his red is actually more accurate than mine was but my efforts to get rid of blue push on my set dropped his Blue Y down to 6.7. Still close though and if his set is indicative of what everyone else will get, it looks pretty good. Hope this helps everyone and if anyone has any questions (or if I forgot something) feel free to ask

Last Updated 04/04/2009



Low Tech:

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This has been edited (steps critical in proper setup added or revised) for a soon to be released video on performing a simple calibration and what can be done to correct issues with locked in saturated colors. As I think many have unknown picture quality issues, beyond that of stuck in Demo Mode. I did not have to spend so much time on covering what to do if it don't work. But I did, as I was carefull to add what I have experienced on my own and to keep my good standing here. Even if you do not use the calibration steps, the troubleshooting steps make something that is useful for all and to keep a lot of users from bugging me on troubleshooting my calibration steps.


This was not to be a definitive calibration, just a means to get a very good picture that is better than just pluging in numbers. The reason I do not go into a lot of detail, is that there are a lot of options in the Service Menu, and some may not be used or set by the TV owner. Just about everything can effect CCA adjustment... as changing from a different brightness or picture setting will change the CCA numbers. Usually not linearly, as one or more LED colors will increase or decrease in intensity.

Note: this seems lengthy, but in reality it is simple, once you have made one adjustment, it becomes repeditive. I am still working on a video tutorial for future assistance.

Here is a guide line to if you will find a reason to try it.

1) Does Macy (Crossing Jordan) seem too red or too dark?
2) Do lips seem to be somewhat orange at times?
3) Does Horatio (CSI Miami) seem overly orange or golden most of the time?
4) Do you experience a loss of detail in shadows?
5) Do you want a more 3D look without changing Gamma, Brightness or Contrast?
6) Does body tans seem oddly red or not just right?

If you answered yes to any 2 of the questions above, you will notice a better picture quality after completing the DIY calibration.

I have performed many different ways to calibrate and ended up with using this method as RMZ and everyone else should find some benefit as I do not give numbers to plug in (as they are truely useless)... I just show you a way to get the most out of the TV using setting you like. Yes, you can use any setting you like, as not everyone has a perfect viewing environment.

This works on the OEM default CCA settings only... do not use on adjusted settings. So if you used Lee's settings you will need to input your original settings before performing the color sensor save.

The key to a great picture is to setup DVE with color bars, go into Service Menu and set Expert Mode so you can setup the settings that will be used most of the time. Do not set Calibration Mode as Movie2 works just fine and will allow you to make adjustments if needed at a later time.

Note: You must set LED Brightness to Max in the Calibration section that you enabled. After setting the LED Brightness, you may see the screen get brighter. Then you will need to go into the Actuator Adjust menu, and turn off SP and set it at Open. If it is already set at OPEN, set it to CLOSED and go back into the main menu, as you will need to toggle it to adjust the SP gain. You will notice as the number goes from 0 to 75 the display gets dimmer. Do not adjust it further than 175. I like 150 as it is not too bright and very workable. Now you can start calibration... this can be left alone and does not need to be adjusted after your done. It has no effect on your picture after calibration, as brightness and contrast will be set the way you expect for normal viewing.

You can setup about 90% of all user menu settings for picture quality, you can setup your user settings in the Expert Calibration menus.

Enable calibration in DDP3021... this will set the TV use the settings you setup... as it will push the gamma you chose while in Service Menu.

Go into CCA menu and perform the color sensor save, even though you did not change any CCA settings. Once it completes, look at the Sensor Status and compare the three bottom numbers. Depending on LED brightness, and any other picture setting that may effect brightness, the numbers readings will be anywhere between 70 and 245. This part cannot be exchanged with anyone elses setting information.

The key is to make the three numbers as close to equal as possible. Don't worry too much as you may find your sensor status information off by 10 on a number or two. Once you get the hang of it (does not take long as you are only changing two numbers) you can always go back at a later time and fine tune if needed.

Example: Red is 140, Green is 123, and Blue is 100; Also if you prefer to have Overlap set at 0%, Keep in mind Green will have the highest number.

You will need to adjust the highest and lowest values only. Trying not to make the middle drop lower than the lower value. The reason is saturation... if one color goes beyond the range of another color the whole calibration will be like going around in circles. You need to adjust Red since it is higher. Only adjust Red Y and Blue Y. If your TV has Green highest then Green Y and Blue Y will need to be adjusted.

The tricky part is when you adjust one you are actually indirectly adjusting all three... as you get closer to getting perfect, each .1 increment will be major. Do no more than .3 at a time... usually the largest number takes more adjustment than the smallest number. Example: You MAY have to decrease or increase Y as much as 10.0 on the largest, and 1.5 on the lowest as comparison to adjusting.

You can only adjust one at a time... after you make your change you must perform the Color Sensor Save, and then check the Color Sensor Status.

At any time you can revert to your original settings by replacing your changes with the settings you copied down on paper.

Once you have your sensor status information set (Example: 92, 89, 91 or if your real good, RGB sensor information shows the same number for your colors).

Now the hard part... You will need to use the three filters from DVE and your eyes to adjust sRGB in the Desturation menu, so that you get the colors adjusted for the mode you are using.

Once you have the colors set, go into the Expert Calibration menu and set your LED brightness to your liking. You will also need to go into CCA and turn off CCA for final adjustment. You can then turn off the tv and wait 15 seconds and power back on.

Depending on how much you setup in Service Menu for user settings, you may find not much needs to be adjusted. Be sure to check as some settings need to be set (Example: DNR and LED Brightness).

I set my defaults in the Service Menu to push my user settings 75, 45, 50, 50/50, Movie2, LED Brightness: Low, and RGB. This will make the user settings pretty much set for me. After checking with Blue Only Mode no adjustments were needed, though I was very carefull to perform the sRGB to the best of my abilities... may take more than one attempt.

Now that everything is set (Brightness & Contrast) turn on Blue Picture Mode and check your colors with Tint and Color adjustments. If you have done a good job in the service menu, there will be very little if anything to adjust.

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Greetings

Wrong place for this thread. Sharing settings is not calibration.

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Wrong place for this thread. Sharing settings is not calibration.

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Is is the right place. We were told to move the discussion here by Mark Rubin. Take it up with him if you have a problem.
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Thanks for taking the time to set this up, but it looks like nobody wants us.
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Thanks for taking the time to set this up, but it looks like nobody wants us.

I understand the confusion over why this is here. These discussions are usually held in the Owner's threads, but we were told to move the discussion here.

Note: To any of you who may be offended or concerned about this thread being here...I do apologize. Please don't disrupt this thread however. Please forward your concerns to a moderator and allow them to deal with it.
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Well, I disagree fairly strongly with mark asking us to move to this thread. Service menu tweaks (or calibrations, whatever you want to call them) seems to be a very legitimate part of an owners discussion thread. We just have a few rabble rousers in that thread causing issues. Posting this in different threads is just going to fragment the info and make it harder to find.... that's my opinion.
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I agree. If this is where Mark Rubin wants this thread, so be it...personally I'm glad we have a new thread. Almost 400 pages was getting to be a bit much...
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Well, I disagree fairly strongly with mark asking us to move to this thread. Service menu tweaks (or calibrations, whatever you want to call them) seems to be a very legitimate part of an owners discussion thread. We just have a few rabble rousers in that thread causing issues. Posting this in different threads is just going to fragment the info and make it harder to find.... that's my opinion.

Maybe we can Sign up to hackaday forum?

Though it has been very late for me to complete my contribution... I have taken time and carefull checking, to make a simple straight forward setup very similar to user menu adjustments. And will be incorporating a procedure to correct errors if there is problems with adjustments, along with properly going back to OEM settings if needed.

Yes, my 2010 Panasonic 42C2 performs better than an S2 No floating blacks and keeps the lowest black levels.
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thread location is appropriate: this was moved here at my request
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has anyone tried changing only the following in the SM and kept their factory default colors?

Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Cursor DOWN to the DDP3021 menu.
Cursor RIGHT to select it.
Cursor DOWN to GAMMA.
Cursor RIGHT to select GAMMA.
Cursor RIGHT/LEFT to change it to (0)Film.
Hit the Menu button once.
Cursor DOWN to OVERLAP
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor LEFT/RIGHT to change OVERLAP to 0(zero)*

Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Cursor down to the SP Actuator Menu
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor Down to DB on/off.
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor LEFT/RIGHT to change to OFF.


Since the color is debatable between sets, I am curious to see if it's possible to use the factory default colors, but change other items in the SM that could provide a better picture and not have to worry about adjusting colors in the SM. Changing the above obviously changes the PQ, in my opinion it made the PQ look more realistic and almost 3D. Reading throughout the Service Menu Manual, I'm not exactly sure in "terms" how to describe what the above changes do.
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Per Varus settings shouldn't Actu On/Off be set to On? Other wise resolution is being reduced to a large extent.

SP Acturator
Actu Gain 0
Actu On/Off Off
DB On/Off OFF
DB Aperture Close
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Per Varus settings shouldn't Actu On/Off be set to On? Other wise resolution is being reduced to a large extent.

SP Acturator
Actu Gain 0
Actu On/Off Off
DB On/Off OFF
DB Aperture Close

according to the service menu manual, the default is ON. I think Lees settings have
it staying at the default which should be ON,he only listed D/B to off because that was
the only change in the SP Acturator Menu

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6. SP Actuator
No Item Range Default Remark
1 Actu Gain [Patt1] 0~175 45 Actuator Gain adjustment
2 Actu Gain [Patt2] 0~175 45 Actuator Gain adjustment
3 Actu On/Off 0~1 ON Actuator On/Off selection
4 DB On/Off 0~1 OFF
5 DB Border ON/OFF OFF
6 DB BP Weight - 0
7 DB Gain 0~3 0
8 DB Aperture ON/OFF ON
9 SB Gain 0~255 0

thats for the 61A750...
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By any chance does the service manual reference exactly what the factory reset feature does? Such that does it return "everything back to the day it was shipped" or just certain values... etc. I think it's an important point to be aware of when going into the service menu. If one knows one can always go home again it certainly makes things a little more comfortable. In one of my previous sets I run the reset and lived through it but I hadn't changed any service menu values to see if they were returned or not.
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Per Varus settings shouldn't Actu On/Off be set to On? Other wise resolution is being reduced to a large extent.

SP Acturator
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Actu On/Off Off
DB On/Off OFF
DB Aperture Close

Yes, it should be on. I edited his post above. Thank you.
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By any chance does the service manual reference exactly what the factory reset feature does? Such that does it return "everything back to the day it was shipped" or just certain values... etc. I think it's an important point to be aware of when going into the service menu. If one knows one can always go home again it certainly makes things a little more comfortable. In one of my previous sets I run the reset and lived through it but I hadn't changed any service menu values to see if they were returned or not.

at first glance, here is all i see on "factory reset"

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1 Factory Reset OFF/ON OFF Clear user data and Digital to DMD.

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I LOVE that spreadsheet with the user menu settings!!! I'll have to play around with them. Too scared to go into the service manual at this stage of the game. THANKS!
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Per Varus settings shouldn't Actu On/Off be set to On? Other wise resolution is being reduced to a large extent.

SP Acturator
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Actu On/Off Off
DB On/Off OFF
DB Aperture Close

Hey Charles, yeah the correct setting is On. That was my bad and caused some confusion at the start. Only the DB Aperture should be closed
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has anyone tried changing only the following in the SM and kept their factory default colors?

Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Cursor DOWN to the DDP3021 menu.
Cursor RIGHT to select it.
Cursor DOWN to GAMMA.
Cursor RIGHT to select GAMMA.
Cursor RIGHT/LEFT to change it to (0)Film.
Hit the Menu button once.
Cursor DOWN to OVERLAP
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor LEFT/RIGHT to change OVERLAP to 0(zero)*

Hit the MENU button until you are back at the Main Menu.
Cursor down to the SP Actuator Menu
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor Down to DB on/off.
Cursor RIGHT to select.
Cursor LEFT/RIGHT to change to OFF.


Since the color is debatable between sets, I am curious to see if it's possible to use the factory default colors, but change other items in the SM that could provide a better picture and not have to worry about adjusting colors in the SM. Changing the above obviously changes the PQ, in my opinion it made the PQ look more realistic and almost 3D. Reading throughout the Service Menu Manual, I'm not exactly sure in "terms" how to describe what the above changes do.

I will be posting a video on a DIY calibration using DVE based on my current setup.

I setup the TV to be 100% calibrated in the service menu, as the only things you need to setup in User Menu is DNR along with some features that are reset getting out of the Service Menu.

The calibration is simple... it relies on setting CCA RGB colors using the Samsung color sensor and allowing the encoding engine to do the math. At this time the only way to get a better picture is a true ISF calibration.

It only works on 61" and 67" DLP's using OEM Service Menu settings For CCA as the colors are not pushed into over saturation from using someone elses settings.

It also works for all viewing modes so it will play well with any viewing setup.

A big note... all colors are well reproduced, thus you don't have too much SSE if you noticed it before.

Yes, my 2010 Panasonic 42C2 performs better than an S2 No floating blacks and keeps the lowest black levels.
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I will be posting a video on a DIY calibration using DVE based on my current setup.

I setup the TV to be 100% calibrated in the service menu, as the only things you need to setup in User Menu is DNR along with some features that are reset getting out of the Service Menu.

The calibration is simple... it relies on setting CCA RGB colors using the Samsung color sensor and allowing the encoding engine to do the math. At this time the only way to get a better picture is a true ISF calibration.

It only works on 61" and 67" DLP's using OEM Service Menu settings For CCA as the colors are not pushed into over saturation from using someone elses settings.

It also works for all viewing modes so it will play well with any viewing setup.

A big note... all colors are well reproduced, thus you don't have too much SSE if you noticed it before.

Low Tech,
Can you go ahead and copy over your last post of the procedure you used?
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I will be posting a video on a DIY calibration using DVE based on my current setup.

I setup the TV to be 100% calibrated in the service menu, as the only things you need to setup in User Menu is DNR along with some features that are reset getting out of the Service Menu.

The calibration is simple... it relies on setting CCA RGB colors using the Samsung color sensor and allowing the encoding engine to do the math. At this time the only way to get a better picture is a true ISF calibration.

It only works on 61" and 67" DLP's using OEM Service Menu settings For CCA as the colors are not pushed into over saturation from using someone elses settings.

It also works for all viewing modes so it will play well with any viewing setup.

A big note... all colors are well reproduced, thus you don't have too much SSE if you noticed it before.

I will go ahead and add the information you have already provided to the first post. Once you finish the video I will include that as well. Thanks for the hard work.
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[quote=mike_pro;16171647]Well, I disagree fairly strongly with mark asking us to move to this thread. Service menu tweaks (or calibrations, whatever you want to call them) seems to be a very legitimate part of an owners discussion thread. We just have a few rabble rousers in that thread causing issues. Posting this in different threads is just going to fragment the info and make it harder to find.... that's my opinion.[/QUOTI agree mike-pro!
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This has been edited (steps critical in proper setup added or revised) for a soon to be released video on performing a simple calibration and what can be done to correct issues with locked in saturated colors. As I think many have unknown picture quality issues, beyond that of stuck in Demo Mode. I did not have to spend so much time on covering what to do if it don't work. But I did, as I was carefull to add what I have experienced on my own and to keep my good standing here. Even if you do not use the calibration steps, the troubleshooting steps make something that is useful for all and to keep a lot of users from bugging me on troubleshooting my calibration steps.


This was not to be a definitive calibration, just a means to get a very good picture that is better than just pluging in numbers. The reason I do not go into a lot of detail, is that there are a lot of options in the Service Menu, and some may not be used or set by the TV owner. Just about everything can effect CCA adjustment... as changing from a different brightness or picture setting will change the CCA numbers. Usually not linearly, as one or more LED colors will increase or decrease in intensity.

Note: this seems lengthy, but in reality it is simple, once you have made one adjustment, it becomes repeditive. I am still working on a video tutorial for future assistance.

Here is a guide line to if you will find a reason to try it.

1) Does Macy (Crossing Jordan) seem too red or too dark?
2) Do lips seem to be somewhat orange at times?
3) Does Horatio (CSI Miami) seem overly orange or golden most of the time?
4) Do you experience a loss of detail in shadows?
5) Do you want a more 3D look without changing Gamma, Brightness or Contrast?
6) Does body tans seem oddly red or not just right?

If you answered yes to any 2 of the questions above, you will notice a better picture quality after completing the DIY calibration.

I have performed many different ways to calibrate and ended up with using this method as RMZ and everyone else should find some benefit as I do not give numbers to plug in (as they are truely useless)... I just show you a way to get the most out of the TV using setting you like. Yes, you can use any setting you like, as not everyone has a perfect viewing environment.

This works on the OEM default CCA settings only... do not use on adjusted settings. So if you used Lee's settings you will need to input your original settings before performing the color sensor save.

The key to a great picture is to setup DVE with color bars, go into Service Menu and set Expert Mode so you can setup the settings that will be used most of the time. Do not set Calibration Mode as Movie2 works just fine and will allow you to make adjustments if needed at a later time.

Note: You must set LED Brightness to Max in the Calibration section that you enabled. After setting the LED Brightness, you may see the screen get brighter. Then you will need to go into the Actuator Adjust menu, and turn off SP and set it at Open. If it is already set at OPEN, set it to CLOSED and go back into the main menu, as you will need to toggle it to adjust the SP gain. You will notice as the number goes from 0 to 75 the display gets dimmer. Do not adjust it further than 175. I like 150 as it is not too bright and very workable. Now you can start calibration... this can be left alone and does not need to be adjusted after your done. It has no effect on your picture after calibration, as brightness and contrast will be set the way you expect for normal viewing.

You can setup about 90% of all user menu settings for picture quality, you can setup your user settings in the Expert Calibration menus.

Enable calibration in DDP3021... this will set the TV use the settings you setup... as it will push the gamma you chose while in Service Menu.

Go into CCA menu and perform the color sensor save, even though you did not change any CCA settings. Once it completes, look at the Sensor Status and compare the three bottom numbers. Depending on LED brightness, and any other picture setting that may effect brightness, the numbers readings will be anywhere between 70 and 245. This part cannot be exchanged with anyone elses setting information.

The key is to make the three numbers as close to equal as possible. Don't worry too much as you may find your sensor status information off by 10 on a number or two. Once you get the hang of it (does not take long as you are only changing two numbers) you can always go back at a later time and fine tune if needed.

Example: Red is 140, Green is 123, and Blue is 100; Also if you prefer to have Overlap set at 0%, Keep in mind Green will have the highest number.

You will need to adjust the highest and lowest values only. Trying not to make the middle drop lower than the lower value. The reason is saturation... if one color goes beyond the range of another color the whole calibration will be like going around in circles. You need to adjust Red since it is higher. Only adjust Red Y and Blue Y. If your TV has Green highest then Green Y and Blue Y will need to be adjusted.

The tricky part is when you adjust one you are actually indirectly adjusting all three... as you get closer to getting perfect, each .1 increment will be major. Do no more than .3 at a time... usually the largest number takes more adjustment than the smallest number. Example: You MAY have to decrease or increase Y as much as 10.0 on the largest, and 1.5 on the lowest as comparison to adjusting.

You can only adjust one at a time... after you make your change you must perform the Color Sensor Save, and then check the Color Sensor Status.

At any time you can revert to your original settings by replacing your changes with the settings you copied down on paper.

Once you have your sensor status information set (Example: 92, 89, 91 or if your real good, RGB sensor information shows the same number for your colors).

Now the hard part... You will need to use the three filters from DVE and your eyes to adjust sRGB in the Desturation menu, so that you get the colors adjusted for the mode you are using.

Once you have the colors set, go into the Expert Calibration menu and set your LED brightness to your liking. You will also need to go into CCA and turn off CCA for final adjustment. You can then turn off the tv and wait 15 seconds and power back on.

Depending on how much you setup in Service Menu for user settings, you may find not much needs to be adjusted. Be sure to check as some settings need to be set (Example: DNR and LED Brightness).

I set my defaults in the Service Menu to push my user settings 75, 45, 50, 50/50, Movie2, LED Brightness: Low, and RGB. This will make the user settings pretty much set for me. After checking with Blue Only Mode no adjustments were needed, though I was very carefull to perform the sRGB to the best of my abilities... may take more than one attempt.

Now that everything is set (Brightness & Contrast) turn on Blue Picture Mode and check your colors with Tint and Color adjustments. If you have done a good job in the service menu, there will be very little if anything to adjust.
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Well, I disagree fairly strongly with mark asking us to move to this thread. Service menu tweaks (or calibrations, whatever you want to call them) seems to be a very legitimate part of an owners discussion thread. We just have a few rabble rousers in that thread causing issues. Posting this in different threads is just going to fragment the info and make it harder to find.... that's my opinion.[/QUOTI agree mike-pro!

I expressed my opinon, and am leaving that thread behind me. It has served its perpose and it seems price talk, rebaits and placement is going to be its demise. Thanks Mike, for your huge thread of information, at least this thread continues your legacy.

Yes, my 2010 Panasonic 42C2 performs better than an S2 No floating blacks and keeps the lowest black levels.
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This has been edited (steps critical in proper setup added or revised) for a soon to be released video on performing a simple calibration and what can be done to correct issues with locked in saturated colors. As I think many have unknown picture quality issues, beyond that of stuck in Demo Mode. I did not have to spend so much time on covering what to do if it don't work. But I did, as I was carefull to add what I have experienced on my own and to keep my good standing here. Even if you do not use the calibration steps, the troubleshooting steps make something that is useful for all and to keep a lot of users from bugging me on troubleshooting my calibration steps.


Thank you Low Tech. I just deleted what I had listed for you in the first post and replaced it with a link to this one.
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Since this thread has been moved into a place where it will get a LOT more scrutiny from professional calibrators (and those who make products for them), do please read this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1055906

before copying anyone else's settings. You will find that individual settings follow a distribution, but where in any given distribution your set lies in order to hit D65/709/PAL/SMPTE-C can vary significantly. Also, document the heck out of your initial settings before touching ANYTHING. There are several threads here where people have bricked their sets because of inadvertent or conscious (uninformed, but intentional) actions on their part.

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We are well aware and appreciate your concern.
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We are well aware and appreciate your concern.

No really, what you put in the first post, if you understand what calibration is about is generally of no help to anybody.

You can create a thread about a specific model in here if you want, but the information should be more general. Some things are indisputable, trun dynamic contrast off, ect...

The minute you start posting dE numbers and service menu settings, you've gone beyond what should be copied into a new a different set. The panels are often drastically different at the factory and get specific calibration burned into them wich isn't accurate to rec.709 spec but puts the set in the general ballpark of everything else comming off the line. Copy someone elses service menu settings in there and it WILL be wrong.


So this forum is about accurate calibration, and you are telling them to copy your settings into their TV, that produces an inaccurate picture. Sounds like the wrong forum to me. It is not calibration and is generally frowned upon here.

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No really, what you put in the first post, if you understand what calibration is about is generally of no help to anybody.

You can create a thread about a specific model in here if you want, but the information should be more general. Some things are indisputable, trun dynamic contrast off, ect...

The minute you start posting dE numbers and service menu settings, you've gone beyond what should be copied into a new a different set. The panels are often drastically different at the factory and get specific calibration burned into them wich isn't accurate to rec.709 spec but puts the set in the general ballpark of everything else comming off the line. Copy someone elses service menu settings in there and it WILL be wrong.


So if this forum is about accurate calibration, and you are telling them to copy your settings into their TV, that produces and inaccurate picture. It is not calibration and is generally frowned upon here.

Please do not disturb this thread. It was placed here at the request of a moderator. Thank you.
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Please do not disturb this thread. It was placed here at the request of a moderator. Thank you.

it was my request, but that does not mean others are prevented from giving sound advice

Consider we are guests here and act accordingly

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Please do not disturb this thread. It was placed here at the request of a moderator. Thank you.

Yes it is in the right place.

Now it can get infromed feedback on how your advice can produce wildly different results on the same display.

Copying settings is not calibration. You're in the right forum to learn the err of your ways.

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