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Cant seem to find the information anywhere so I am asking here.

I have a Samsung 67A750
What exactly would I need to do to view 3D content?
can I simple buy a 3D bluray or dvd and use the supplied glasses or do I need to buy a kit?
Do I need the Kit from Samsung?
Do I need Software or more Hardware ALONG with that kit?


If I need to use a PC, will my Specs work?
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post #2 of 204 Old 04-05-2009, 10:10 AM
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Good question with all the new 3D movies coming out in 2009 and 2010
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From the Samsung site:

SSG1000 3D Kit for Plasma and DLP HDTV


3D Kit for Plasma and DLP

Unlock the 3-D capability of the latest Samsung DLP® and Plasma HDTVs by purchasing the 3-D Starter Pack! After connecting a suitable PC or home media center to the Samsung 3-D DLP or Plasma HDTV and plugging the transmitter into the HDTV, install DDD's TriDef® 3-D Experience software, put on the lightweight wireless 3-D glasses, and you're ready to enjoy a wide range of 3-D content. The 3-D Starter Pack includes software that enables any 2-D DVD to be viewed in 3-D in real-time, with controls that allow the 3-D effect to be adjusted. Applications such as Google EarthTM can be viewed in 3-D, as well as the latest PC games!

UPC Code : 036725228566
Key Features:
One pair of wireless 3d glasses

One wireless 3D transmitter

Enjoy 3D photo and video content

Links to buy the latest 3D content

Play a PC game in 3D

See Google Earth in 3D
Size:
Glasses:
Folded: 6.7" x 2.6" x 2.1"
Unfolded: 6.7" x 6.6" x 2.1"

Emitter: 2.2" x 3.8" x 1.1"
Key Specs:
Requires suitable PC & graphics card.

PC must be connected to TV via HDMI

Recommend Intel Core 2 Duo or AthlonTM 64 X2 Dual-Core CPU

Recommend NVIDIA® GeForce 6600 or ATI RadeonTM X800

Windows® XP, Vista 32 bit recommended
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1114654

http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=3

Short answer is you can watch anaglyph (red/blue) content with glasses supplied with anaglyph blu-rays such as Hannah Montana, Polar Express, Journey to Center of Earth. However, color and 3d quality of anaglyph is pretty poor.

If you want quality you will need to purchase a set of shutter glasses and necessary software such as Tridef media player or Stereoscopic player. The Tridef software can do real time conversion of 2d to 3d but quality will vary a lot as it is "guessing" what the 3d image should look like. Both Stereoscopic player and Tridef will play true stereoscopic content but Stereoscopic Player is a little easier to use in this department.

True stereoscopic movie content is very limited right now so you have to decide if it's worth it. Supposedly in 2010 Panasonic will have a 3D blu-ray player so it may be better to just wait. I've read they want 3D blu-ray to be ready when James Cameron's Avatar hit's blu-ray.

However if you are a gamer this by itself is a good reason to go 3D. Nvidia now has their own shutterglasses and drivers for many games, and their shutterglasses will work just fine with your dlp tv...however you do need a Nvidia graphics card.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...ionKit_us.html

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showforum=40

DDD and Iz3d also have game drivers that are compatible with ATI cards but not sure about compatibility with Nvidia glasses. You might need different glasses for their drivers. Here are a couplel links to reviews of other glasses:

http://3droundup.com/2009/01/shades-of-glory/

http://www.bedfordbraces.com/reviews...1000review.htm
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Gonna drag this up from the dead...

I've got this same TV and with all the "new" 3D talk like the PS3 and 3D blu-ray going on recently...

Can I simply purchase the kit and will my Sammy work with this stuff (ie, 3D Blu and PS3 games, PC 3D and perhaps bordcast 3D??), or is all this 3D talk a "newer" standard that my TV technically doesn't support since it was released before the 3D talk really took off?

Sorry for the noobish question and request for clarification.

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found some extra info for us "legacy" 3D DLP owners...

http://hdguru.com/legacy-samsung-3d-...-directv/1386/

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Unfortunately the Mitsubishi adapter has benn designed NOT to work with Samsung DLP TVs - it could have but Mitsubishi decided to put special coding in it to prevent it from working.

Samsung Legacy 3D TVs are Not Compatible with Mitsubishi's New 3D Converter
(May 6, 2010) Mitsubishi's soon to be launched HD converter box permits viewing a 3D HD Blu-ray player, 3D cable or satellite signal on any of its 3D ready HDTVs. The 3DC-1000, which debuted at the January 2010 consumer electronics show, converts HD 3D content to the checkerboard format used in all Mitsubishi 3D ready HDTV rear projectors produced since 2007.

In 2007 and 2008 Samsung offered 3D ready HDTVs for PC gaming that used the same checkerboard format. Recently, Mitsubishi decided to modify the 3DC-1000 to restrict compatibility to its own TVs, via the EDID identification data sent along with the HDMI signal.

According to Mitsubishi's director of product planning David Naranjo, the 3DC-1000 converter will not accept the ID from these Samsung 3D ready HDTVs and so won't pass the 3D signal in high definition.

Note: Mitsubishi never announced its converter would be compatible with 3D capable TVs other than its own.

http://hdguru.com/samsung-legacy-3d-...onverter/1577/
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For 3D Blu-Ray, pick up the Panasonic player, since it outputs the checkerboard format. You'll then need a pair of shutter glasses and an emitter, or the Xpand X102 glasses, which don't need an emitter.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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Just got back from an awesome E3, came home looking forward to trying out 3D on my Sammy...but it's not working.

I downloaded MotorStorm Pacific Rift 3D demo, and the "Play in 3D" option is grayed out. I have a 3D dongle plugged into the TV.

Anyone get 3D to work on this TV with PS3?

EDIT: This looks bad: http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/...=0&PROD_ID=153

DLP TV : Can I View 2010 3D Content On My 3D DLP TV?

New 3D devices (such as BluRay Player and Cable Boxes) have been released in 2010 that use different methods of transmitting 3D signals than the 3D DLP TVs released in 2007 and 2008 accept. Due to this, Samsung 3D DLP TVs are not compatible with newly released 3D devices.

Samsung 3D DLP TVs were designed for 3D gaming from a PC using a checkerboard format signal. 3D DLP TVs are currently only compatible with Windows PCs running TriDef 3D software. Click here to visit the TriDef website for more information.
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I also have the HL67A750 and want to do some 3D, but not PC or PC gaming, only what limited movies are available with a Panasonic DMP-BDT300. Since there is only one port for the emitter on the television, is it correct to assume that multiple glasses (say 4) can work off the same emitter?
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I also have the HL67A750 and want to do some 3D, but not PC or PC gaming, only what limited movies are available with a Panasonic DMP-BDT300. Since there is only one port for the emitter on the television, is it correct to assume that multiple glasses (say 4) can work off the same emitter?

I can answer that one; yes one emitter will run as many wireless glasses as you can fit in the room. It just sends an IR signal to the glasses.
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I can answer that one; yes one emitter will run as many wireless glasses as you can fit in the room. It just sends an IR signal to the glasses.

Sweet! Thanks for the reply.
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Just got my HL67A750 + Panny BDT350 + Xpand X102 combo working yesterday.

I see 3D!!!

Only issue is some ghosting - not quite sure what the cause is - much better in TV 3D mode 2 than in mode 1, but still present. It's not horrible, but it's there, and everyone can see it. I know I'm on the bleeding edge here (like I was with my HTPC and Hipix card in 2000 LOL) but wondering if anyone else has tackled this and has any thoughts on tweaks to address the ghosting with this combo.

If the ghosting were eliminated, it would be PERFECT.

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SOLVED!!! Found Joel's solution in another thread - rename input to PC and it's PERFECT!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...4&postcount=31

OMG I'm a happy camper!

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SOLVED!!! Found Joel's solution in another thread - rename input to PC and it's PERFECT!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...4&postcount=31

OMG I'm a happy camper!

You have got to be kidding.... I don't have the player or glasses yet but I'm renaming my input as soon as I get home. I can't believe renaming the input clears up the ghosting but hey whatever works.
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I couldn't believe it either... but it works. Changes the overscan mode or some such thing...

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I couldn't believe it either... but it works. Changes the overscan mode or some such thing...

It changes the brightness, contrast, and gives it a slight blue shift. But yes, it definitely fixes the ghosting problem.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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Does the Panasonic DMP-BDT300 also output a checkerboard signal like the DMP-BDT350 ?
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does the panasonic dmp-bdt300 also output a checkerboard signal like the dmp-bdt350 ?

yes!
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yes!

Thanks, I might go for the less expensive player to get 3d on my HL67A750
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You can buy the dmp-btd350 on the internet for less than the dmp-bdt300 since the 300 is only sold as Best Buy.
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You can buy the dmp-btd350 on the internet for less than the dmp-bdt300 since the 300 is only sold as Best Buy.

Yup, I found the 350 for $350 shipped.

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what exactly do i need to watch 3D on this tv besides a 3D bluray player?
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The glasses - the Xpand X102 will work without an emitter - they pick up the sync signal from the TV screen. Only the HDMI input number 3 is 3D compatible for best results I have read that you need to label the input as PC.
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67A750/X102 user here. How do you minimize/eliminate reddish tint to the blacks?
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I got 4 SSG1000's today and hopefully the BDT300 will be here before the end of the week. I found a very helpful chap in England who had 31 brand new SSG1000's and sold them all within 10 days. I guess we'll be watching Cloudy/Meatballs over and over. And over.
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I got 4 SSG1000's today and hopefully the BDT300 will be here before the end of the week. I found a very helpful chap in England who had 31 brand new SSG1000's and sold them all within 10 days. I guess we'll be watching Cloudy/Meatballs over and over. And over.

I ordered two SSG1000s from England five weeks ago and still haven't received them! I got tired of waiting and bought two X102s. I'm not entirely satisfied with the reddish blacks I see and I'm hopeful that the SSG1000s fare better. Any chance you can check black level on the demo disc included with the BDT300?
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67A750/X102 user here. How do you minimize/eliminate reddish tint to the blacks?

With my setup, the tint is only noticeable sans glasses - with the x102's on, we don't notice it.

But I haven't found a way (outside of service menu) to adjust color, picture, tint etc in 3D mode.

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I ordered two SSG1000s from England five weeks ago and still haven't received them! I got tired of waiting and bought two X102s. I'm not entirely satisfied with the reddish blacks I see and I'm hopeful that the SSG1000s fare better. Any chance you can check black level on the demo disc included with the BDT300?

I checked my X102s last night regarding the reddish tint in blacks. Yes, it's still there, but only when I was really looking for it.

With our displays, I don't think there is any way around it. And not to mention, it's not like there are any 3D calibration discs on the market either.

Basically, it is what it is with our displays. The 3D looks fantastic, and yes, if you look hard enough, you'll see some color-shift.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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wow... thanks for all the great information and keeping this alive. I reloaded the page figuring there wouldn't be any new info and found that the opposite was true.

Sounds like 3D PS3 gaming is out.... but 3D movies from a few special Blu players will work (as well as some PC 3D gaming if you're inclined to do that setup)

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