The son you are absolutly right, the day i was at greg the salesman said quote" i will do what i have to do to see that you leave with that tv today" he told me to name my price, as long as it was not crazy like $100, or he said do you want a free stand, or a set of suround speakers. name your terms. i just stood there and stared at him like a big ol goober. i didnt know whether to poop or go blind. try getting a salesman to do that at BB. lol he was also trying his best to get me out the door with the 80 incher, he said i can have it on the truck in 10 min. i was so stupid i should have got the 60837 that day but i was just blown away, in the back of my mind i was like whats the catch, but know after hearing from diferent folks, that he was for real. from now on the only way i will step foot in BB is to buy a computer game. if we still had CC i would never go back to bb. bestbuy used to be a great store with good prices, but they have got to big fer there britches anymore.