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vannausj's Avatar vannausj
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I picked up a WD-65737 on Saturday and wanted to provide a place for owners to post thoughts and impressions as well as a chance for potential owners to ask questions.

Here is spec sheet:
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/WD82737_specsheet.pdf

and FAQ (frequently asked questions):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post17396070

Initial items in the spec sheet that appear to be significant that I have noticed are
"Improved Video Noise Reduction" - The 65737 seems to have a better picture with SD content (Cox Cable) vs. the 65835 I have watched (Direct TV SD). The quick feedback is that from ~10-12' the SD content is entirely watchable and seems to be noticeably improved from previous generation.
Also will try to upload a snapshot of the
"New Advanced Video Calibration Menu" - There appears to be options for individual color settings outside of the service menu.
slimoli's Avatar slimoli
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I would love to get your first impressions: How is the picture quality compared to previous sets you had? Did you have a Mitsubishi DLP before ? I am waiting for the 82" but the 65 can give me an idea on what to expect. Thanks
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I would love to get your first impressions: How is the picture quality compared to previous sets you had? Did you have a Mitsubishi DLP before ? I am waiting for the 82" but the 65 can give me an idea on what to expect. Thanks

He said in another thread that he is moving up from a crt set and that his thoughts about his new set v. prior Mits were based on showroom comparisons. Still worth hearing though.
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I don't think we will see any Mitsubishi DLP here in south Florida. Circuity City is gone, Tweeter (Sound Advice) is gone, BestBuy is not stocking any DLP, including Magnolia. Buying a DLP online is kind of unusual to say the least. The only B&M still selling DLP is Brandsmart but it looks like it's just some old stock they wanna get rid of.
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I will soon be getting a 65837 as a warranty replacement for a 65725 purchased back in 2004. Was originally supposed to get a 65835 but it was damaged in shipment and that was their last one. I was told in should be in stock around May 22nd. Can't wait!
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Met a mitsubishi rep. At a magnolia. He said the new 82 inch had a different screen from the others adding a better viewing angle. When i mentioned that there was no reference to this in their specs all he said was that i should note the disproportionate difference in weight to size in the 82's.
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Met a mitsubishi rep. At a magnolia. He said the new 82 inch had a different screen from the others adding a better viewing angle. When i mentioned that there was no reference to this in their specs all he said was that i should note the disproportionate difference in weight to size in the 82's.

Maybe it can be better than last year's models but my old 73927 is also bulky and the viewing angle is terrible.
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Computer city is selling Mits Tv's in my area of FL.
Jake Ironshirt's Avatar Jake Ironshirt
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Will the new DLP line up have the Darkchip4 from TI?
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That's going some.right?


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yes all new dlp's from mits. have the darkchip 4 from ti. still havn't heard anything about the rumors that the 82 inchers have a different screen (wider veiwing angle) then all of the others. all i do know is that the 73's weigh around 92 lbs. and the 82's around 156lbs. seems like a disproportionate difference in weight to size from one to the other.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vannausj View Post

I picked up a WD-65737 on Saturday and wanted to provide a place for owners to post thoughts and impressions as well as a chance for potential owners to ask questions.

Here is spec sheet:
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/WD82737_specsheet.pdf

Initial items in the spec sheet that appear to be significant that I have noticed are
"Improved Video Noise Reduction" - The 65737 seems to have a better picture with SD content (Cox Cable) vs. the 65835 I have watched (Direct TV SD). The quick feedback is that from ~10-12' the SD content is entirely watchable and seems to be noticeably improved from previous generation.
Also will try to upload a snapshot of the
"New Advanced Video Calibration Menu" - There appears to be options for individual color settings outside of the service menu.


Hows the Tv doing???
Jake Ironshirt's Avatar Jake Ironshirt
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yes all new dlp's from mits. have the darkchip 4 from ti. still havn't heard anything about the rumors that the 82 inchers have a different screen (wider veiwing angle) then all of the others. all i do know is that the 73's weigh around 92 lbs. and the 82's around 156lbs. seems like a disproportionate difference in weight to size from one to the other.

Thanks for the answer, your right about 82" weight to size. Maybe they beefed up the frame to handle the screen...but 60+ pounds
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Thanks for the answer, your right about 82" weight to size. Maybe they beefed up the frame to handle the screen...but 60+ pounds

It's not just the screen, they had to make it fat otherwise some serious geometry distortion could happen. This is a good sign, IMO.
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Well after almost a week with the tv I can finally post some reports on the 60737. Standard time warner channels still look like junk on this tv. I find myself watching more HD channels than the standard ones now. Im not sure how the 120hz works as I dont see that smooth motion crap the LCDs have on them in the stores. Not sure if its because they are always playing blue-ray discs or its because my up-converting toshiba dvd player isnt able to push the 1080p/24 with out sacrificing quality. I do notice a difference switching from just plain upconverted 1080p to the 1080p/24 with the 24fps looking very grainy? Im not sure how else to set this tv up to smooth out the grainyness? I have the video noice on High and the 120hz on all the time, with the deepfield setting on. Other than that I cant find any other settings that will let me switch the tv to any other resolution settings. I wish I had a blue-ray to see what those look like, but so far pretty happy. I did notice the rainbow effect while calibrating a white circle inside of a black box. It was horrible and hurt my eyes. I wish others had the tv so I could find out some calibrating settings, I'm pretty lost on the basic stuff. Everything is hooked up via HDMI so no cabling issues. Anyone have some basic DLP settings to go by?
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Please can someone find out if the 120hz on new C9 series is true 5:5 pulldown for 24hz hdmi sources. (24hz x 5 = 120hz)
cuz i know the previous smooth120 feature did the (60i x 2 = 120hz)
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I have a 60737 coming any day now. I have DirecTV and a PS3 with Blu-ray. I'll post my impressions of the TV. I'm a bit concerned about the brightness. I'm hoping the picture will be a big improvement over my old 50" Panasonic LCD RPTV.

DoP
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Dont worry about brightness! I have had to turn mine WAY down! I love mine so far. Just need more owners to compare settings now
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Well I just got done watching Little people big world on HD TLC and have noticed some bothering issues with this set. When Matt is wearing a red shirt or anything really bright red for that matter shows up, TLCHD icon in the bottom corner, well the picture shakes. Almost like the color is going back and forth and out of the edges. I havent done much in the way of calibrating other that the contrast and brightness. Everything is very well in stock settings.... any ideas?
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Dont worry about brightness! I have had to turn mine WAY down! I love mine so far. Just need more owners to compare settings now

Are you sorry you didn't buy a 50" 720p plasma for the same price? I'm struggling with the thought. . . .
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No not at all!!! I was just in best buy last night looking at that samsung 50" 720p plasma and it looks way worse than this ever cool! Very grainy, colors were night bright, and it is only 720p! These are two completly different sets, and I got a much bigger tv for my money! Very happy so far
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Here are a couple of pictures to eas your mind alittle while you wait.... my red's are pretty red. Might need to adjust the color again. Picture was taken from the girlfriends little 10mpg throw in your purse kind of camera... Not sure what it is








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Newmason

Your colors look oversaturated and the green is like lemon-green, very unatural. Is it just the camera ? I have an old 73927 and had to do a huge color correction to avoid the lemon-green.
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Newmason,

Definitely too much red. Do you get HDNet? If so, they have a HD test pattern that you can record if you have a DVR.

http://www.hd.net/program_search_esults.html?keyword=test&whattosearch=both&ws=1

Another option is to get a copy of video essentials or some other type of calibrating disc. That should get you going in the right direction.
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Yeah I knew my red were def over saturated, and I did get the DVE dvd from the library that included and the red green blue film to vrfy the color, and thats how it came out in the perfect color setting. Not sure how else to correct it
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Yeah I knew my red were def over saturated, and I did get the DVE dvd from the library that included and the red green blue film to vrfy the color, and thats how it came out in the perfect color setting. Not sure how else to correct it

How are you connecting your components? Does everything route through a receiver with a single input into your Mits, or do you have everything connected individually? Reason I'm asking is that I believe each input can be independently calibrated. So while you've calibrated your DVD input, you may have to copy those settings into your TV input.
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Yeah I knew my red were def over saturated, and I did get the DVE dvd from the library that included and the red green blue film to vrfy the color, and thats how it came out in the perfect color setting. Not sure how else to correct it

You might want to try a blu-ray calibration disc, rather than a standard-definition calibration disc. I definitely see some red push in your pics, so you probably need to dial down the color setting, and then re-adjust the tint. I know from personal experience that there often is a need to fine tune the color and tint adjustments by eye, rather than relying on the settings that may seem right based solely on calibration disc test patterns.
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Im connect right now to two HDMI ports into the tv. DVD and Cablebox. and you are right all of the hdmi ports have individual settings for them, so I had already transfered over my settings from the dvd player to the cable channels, and thats how it shows up need to have an HD channel that you can tune to at anytime to have a calibration done to the standards of the cable output.... i wish
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You might want to try a blu-ray calibration disc, rather than a standard-definition calibration disc. I definitely see some red push in your pics, so you probably need to dial down the color setting, and then re-adjust the tint. I know from personal experience that there often is a need to fine tune the color and tint adjustments by eye, rather than relying on the settings that may seem right based solely on calibration disc test patterns.

he doesn't have a bluray player.........yet
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Check this out: http://next3d.com/NEXT_3D.html

So glad I ordered this TV now
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