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I do have a receiver that is capable of 3D. The picture shows up blurry (like it would without glasses) I turn the glasses on, they blink, and then nothing happens.

I talked with Mitsubishi, and they do not have an answer, they said a specialist will call be back on the 2nd business day.

I'm curious if it is the Ultra Clear DLP Link glasses, I have tried 2 pairs though.
Iam not sure if I am right but I think I read somewhere in this thread that you need to change the resolution to 720P then it should or might work? I have the 65-838 and have yet to try the 3D out so I am guessing right now. Maybe someone can chime in and correct me if I am wrong??? Hope it works for ya.
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I do have a receiver that is capable of 3D. The picture shows up blurry (like it would without glasses) I turn the glasses on, they blink, and then nothing happens.

I talked with Mitsubishi, and they do not have an answer, they said a specialist will call be back on the 2nd business day.

I'm curious if it is the Ultra Clear DLP Link glasses, I have tried 2 pairs though.
for me i have to de-select dlp link glasses and then re-select in the user menu and then the 3d appears.
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How good is the 3D on this DLP compared to the 3D that is in theaters?
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My 73738 came in today and oh my As you can tell I'm still in the it's huge phase! The set looks great out the box and the 19 inch stand is perfect at 11.5 ft away. right away I put in the Nichol 2's settings and put in Starwars eps 2 (dvd) to check via it's THX optimizer and was floored at the results( send to Mitsubishi to replace the natural setting). I have Spears and Munsil coming in on Thursday and will confirm via bluray. Man this is great! I'm not missing my Pioneer Elite 64inch much now, The Mits and the Oppo 95 are a stellar combo now to go and try a bluray to see what 1080p at 73inches is all about I'm lovin this!
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Updating from a 55 inch mits rp.

Ordered a 73738 today from Walts via amazon. Very excited. Ordered a Denon AVR2112ci to go with it, planning on getting a Panasonic DMP-BDT210 for the blueray player.
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hi everyone, new to the site and new to dlp. i've been looking at getting a 73 738 from walts through amazon, i've read about the geometry issues and other things, would i be better off getting a 65 738? i live in illinois so having them service it would be a problem if need be, are they good with helping with this or should i try something closer to home.
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hi everyone, new to the site and new to dlp. i've been looking at getting a 73 738 from walts through amazon, i've read about the geometry issues and other things, would i be better off getting a 65 738? i live in illinois so having them service it would be a problem if need be, are they good with helping with this or should i try something closer to home.

I got my 73738 from Walts through Amazon and could not recomend it enough! Out the box and in my home it has no contenders ( unless its an 82,92 or front projector) and puts up a beatiful cinematic experience and made me wonder I waited so long to upgrade. I'm glad I didn't go for the 65 as originaly planned. From what i understand the geometry can be tweaked. But at this point it would just be something to explore for fine tunning when I have time. And this is comining from some one who sweats the little things!

Go with your first mind and get the 73
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hi everyone, new to the site and new to dlp. i've been looking at getting a 73 738 from walts through amazon, i've read about the geometry issues and other things, would i be better off getting a 65 738? i live in illinois so having them service it would be a problem if need be, are they good with helping with this or should i try something closer to home.

I am unaware of any serious problems with scaling up from 65 to 73. How it looks to you in your situation has a lot to do with the distance from you to the set. There are tables on the web that will give you some guidance,

In general at least up to 73", the bigger the better!
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I got my copy of Spears & Munsil one day earlier than expected and just finished calibrating my 73738. I can now confirm the settings I put in from Nicholc2 as dead on as far as contrast , bright and color clipping goes and will use still use them, However after comparisons with the naked eye of course the grayscale via the "Natural" mode was for lack of a better word perfect and allowed better overall color fidelity.Which to say this all speaks volumes to Mitsubishi's QC over their products , in that these settings have worked well for so many! By all means this couldn't subtitute for the full calibration route but much like not having auto calibration and room correction for my audio, its setup the old fasion way via listening and positioning stuff where they work best My eye says acurate and that's a done deal in my book. If any one is curious as to these settings via the Natural mode as confirmed by Spears and Munsil here they are!

Contrast : 51
Brightness: 31
Color: 33
Tint: 31
Sharpness: 17
Color temp : Low

Noise reduction : off
Edge Enhancement: on ( has to on be for Sharpness to Work)
Deep Field : On (per your taste)
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I received my 82738 today...impressed so far, but I havent been able to get the 3D working with Directv. I have tried setting 3D to auto, side by side, and reversing the L-R.

I have Ultra CLear DLP Link glasses. Nothing seems to work.

Any suggestions?

Are you sure you activated 3D mode in the TV? It's a common oversight.

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I am new to this site, as a matter of fact this is my very first post. I have just upgraded from a LG 42" LCD to the new Mitsubishi WD-65738 after reading many positive reveiws about it. I purchased the 3D starter kit to go along with the TV, plus a set of four 3D glasses from Tru-Depth. I have two questions for you guys. I have been reading the Mitsubishi forum here a little bit and I'm a little confused. Do I need the starter kit with the emitter for the model 738 if they are going to do a firmware update if they haven't already. I haven't even got the starter kit yet from Amazon, I could return it if I don't need it. My second question is, does anybody have these "Tru-Depth" 3D glasses, and are they any good compared to all the other models out there ?
Thanks in advance
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I am new to this site, as a matter of fact this is my very first post. I have just upgraded from a LG 42" LCD to the new Mitsubishi WD-65738 after reading many positive reveiws about it. I purchased the 3D starter kit to go along with the TV, plus a set of four 3D glasses from Tru-Depth. I have two questions for you guys. I have been reading the Mitsubishi forum here a little bit and I'm a little confused. Do I need the starter kit with the emitter for the model 738 if they are going to do a firmware update if they haven't already. I haven't even got the starter kit yet from Amazon, I could return it if I don't need it. My second question is, does anybody have these "Tru-Depth" 3D glasses, and are they any good compared to all the other models out there ?
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No emitter needed.
If you tv has a later manufactures date, I think it is this years date, it should have the firmware for DLP LINK in it which is what your glasses are. Go into your options and turn on DLP LINK on the TV. Checkboard format for the Blu-ray player in its options. Yes the firmware has already been released for 738/838 series for DLP LINK. Check your tv first before getting the firmware. The only way to know if the glasses are any good, go ahead and try them.

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No emitter needed.
If you tv has a later manufactures date, I think it is this years date, it should have the firmware for DLP LINK in it which is what your glasses are. Go into your options and turn on DLP LINK on the TV. Checkboard format for the Blu-ray player in its options. Yes the firmware has already been released for 738/838 series for DLP LINK. Check your tv first before getting the firmware. The only way to know if the glasses are any good, go ahead and try them.

The 738/838 supported DLP Link and Checkerboard with the original firmware version. The relatively recent firmware added support for other 3D formats in addition to Checkerboard, so the TV should work just fine with most 3D Bluray players whether they support Checkerboard or not (only some players from Panasonic and software players on PC's support Checkerboard).
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I am new to this site, as a matter of fact this is my very first post. I have just upgraded from a LG 42" LCD to the new Mitsubishi WD-65738 after reading many positive reveiws about it. I purchased the 3D starter kit to go along with the TV, plus a set of four 3D glasses from Tru-Depth. I have two questions for you guys. I have been reading the Mitsubishi forum here a little bit and I'm a little confused. Do I need the starter kit with the emitter for the model 738 if they are going to do a firmware update if they haven't already. I haven't even got the starter kit yet from Amazon, I could return it if I don't need it. My second question is, does anybody have these "Tru-Depth" 3D glasses, and are they any good compared to all the other models out there ?
Thanks in advance

Send the adapter back. The firmware update eliminates the need for an adapter.

Your TV will work with any DLP-Link glasses. If you want to use IR glasses, you will need a matching IR emitter that plugs into the back of the TV. Here is a cheaper source for both.

http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/ul3dgl.html

http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/3dtrformisa3.html

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ok my 65738 arrived on Wed and it seems like the lamp needs a day to burn in-the image was not quite as crisp as one might like-however this said-on Thursday after hooking up to a Samsung blu ray player-the image is spectacular-quite honestly, I don't believe it will be much possible to improve on this imaging and yes-the image does have a movie theater feel which I find desirable-I find plasmas to be a little bit glossy and led's and lcd's to be wonderful images but this picture is like being at the movies. I was watching the Dark Knight on blu ray and I could see right into the cargo hold as the plane left Hong Kong-amazing images. However this said, I am having a royal pain in the ass with 3D from Comcast-I signed up for their one channel ESPN3D, corrected it to 720p per my readings here and their instructions and after an hour-got it to work for just a bit-the image of a football was a bit jumbly but that might have been the camera imaging-it keeps on splitting the screen into top and bottom images in both 729p and 1080i-I use dlp link glasses but the central problem is getting one concise image-at one point-I did have that one image but the right hand eye was blocked out. As I related, it did work for that one shining moment on the mountain but I have been unable to bring this back. I am using hdmi cables supplied by Mits so I must assume that they are 1.4. Any body have any advice-that one moment was a result of some switching back and forth with the Mits settings so I wonder if others have experienced this issue. Advice is welcome for certain
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Contrast : 51
Brightness: 31
Color: 33
Tint: 31
Sharpness: 17
Color temp : Low

Noise reduction : off
Edge Enhancement: on ( has to on be for Sharpness to Work)
Deep Field : On (per your taste)

I just got my 73738 today and the stand should be here tomorrow. Are the above numbers the agreed upon settings as a good place to start? This thread is far too long to read through it to look for settings.
Thanks!
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Can someone please explain what the geometry issue is and a quick and easy way for me to know if I have it? What am I looking for and what do I use? I'm setting up my set tomorrow and I would like to know what to look for so I can contact Amazon/Mitsu if there's a problem.
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I just got my 73738 today and the stand should be here tomorrow. Are the above numbers the agreed upon settings as a good place to start? This thread is far too long to read through it to look for settings.
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Ok, you asked for it, so here are my calibrated settings. Let me preface by saying that I do not in any way think that these settings will make any other persons TV fully calibrated like mine is. They may help, but they may also make it worse. That's the chance you take when using someone else's settings.

Picture Mode: ADV
DeepField Imager: Off
Super Resolution: Off
EdgeEnhance: Off
Video Noise: Off
Brightness: 29
Contrast: 52
Color: 33
Tint: 31
Sharpness: 31
Gamma: 2.2
Red High: 982
Green High: 1011
Blue High: 1020
Red Low: 1
Green Low: 2
Blue Low: 2
Blue Only: Off
Red Adjust: 13, 2, 0
Green Adjust: 2, 12, 2
Blue Adjust: 0, 5, 13
Magenta Adjust: 11, 6, 11
Cyan Adjust: 3, 14, 12
Yellow Adjust: 14, 13, 3

The settings I posted above are via the Natural mode for easy calibration as an alternitive the Nicholc2 settings ( try these in Advanced mode) which I found to be spot on using the Spears and Munsil calibration disc. Its a great starting point. Note at first these settings will appear washed out and lacking the punch of the out the box Brilliant mode but after 10 min of watching you will love it. The Natural mode settings I did has a good combo of punch and what I consider good grayscale which the Mitsubishi seems to have on it's own, put in both settings and you can switch between the two for custom settings, BTW which stand did you get and what are the dimensions?

Hope this helps
and enjoy this incredible set!
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[/quote] BTW which stand did you get and what are the dimensions?

Hope this helps
and enjoy this incredible set![/quote]

Thanks! I'll be setting it up tomorrow. I got the Pinnacle TV6073 Plasma LCD DLP Stand.
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BTW which stand did you get and what are the dimensions?

Hope this helps
and enjoy this incredible set![/quote]

Thanks! I'll be setting it up tomorrow. I got the Pinnacle TV6073 Plasma LCD DLP Stand.[/quote]

Nice that one was my first choice! but the shipping charge and taxes where a no go! Found one at local spot which I absolutly love. My sitting position is around 42 inches and the 19inch stand worked out prefect at 11.5 feet which is the recommended THX maximum distance, guess I got lucky on that one, I did try sitting closer as others here do, but found the so called imersion effect lacking on the natural depth of the image in 2d, I've always set my display up for a more complete image and not just the imersion effect which can also in my opinion lessin the visual impact.

Let me know how your setup turns out!
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I just got my 73738 today and the stand should be here tomorrow. Are the above numbers the agreed upon settings as a good place to start? This thread is far too long to read through it to look for settings.
Thanks!

On a new set, I wouldn't think you would need the contrast set that high.

My 65" was calibrated at 34, contrast was turned up to 41 at around 2500 hours and 54 at 4500 hours. Lamp replaced at 5639 hours and contrast was set back to 34.

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I just got my new 82738. My old 65" Toshiba CRT RPTV didn't work correctly any more. The new 2011 82740 was a LOT more money and I didn't see any new features that interested me so I got the 2010 82738. I also got the 3D starter kit.

The TV is awesome. That said I don't believe the 3D is ready for prime time. The 3D menus in the manual do not match the actual menus. I can not get the 3D to work. I have a PS3 so it should be a well known source. The 82738 manual says set the 3D mode to ON but there is no ON. There is an OFF and a selection of automatic, side-by side, etc. I have tried all of them. On the emitter, the 3D mode active LED goes on then off. All I see are double images when using the demo Blu-ray included in the 3D starter kit.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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On a new set, I wouldn't think you would need the contrast set that high.

My 65" was calibrated at 34, contrast was turned up to 41 at around 2500 hours and 54 at 4500 hours. Lamp replaced at 5639 hours and contrast was set back to 34.

Trust me I would have loved to bring it down lower, but via Spears & Munsil and viewing the set, the numbers dont lie and I have an extremly dark viewing space. Mabe its just the size difference between the 65 and 73, I'm not sure if they use the same lamp Good thing the lamps are on the cheap side now
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Setting mine up now as the stand came! Where is a good place to get replacement lamps that work as well as the original?
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Setting mine up now as the stand came! Where is a good place to get replacement lamps that work as well as the original?

Mits if they have them in stock and they come with the housing unlike many you see elswhere.
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Mits if they have them in stock and they come with the housing unlike many you see elswhere.


Thanks, I just figured Mits would charge some crazy high retail price and one could get the same thing elsewhere cheaper : )
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I just got my new 82738. My old 65" Toshiba CRT RPTV didn't work correctly any more. The new 2011 82740 was a LOT more money and I didn't see any new features that interested me so I got the 2010 82738. I also got the 3D starter kit.

The TV is awesome. That said I don't believe the 3D is ready for prime time. The 3D menus in the manual do not match the actual menus. I can not get the 3D to work. I have a PS3 so it should be a well known source. The 82738 manual says set the 3D mode to ON but there is no ON. There is an OFF and a selection of automatic, side-by side, etc. I have tried all of them. On the emitter, the 3D mode active LED goes on then off. All I see are double images when using the demo Blu-ray included in the 3D starter kit.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rick R

You have to turn 3D on in the TV's menu, with the TV's remote.

You also don't need the starter kit adapter, as your TV has a firmware update available that eliminates the need for the adapter.

Which software version do you have?

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Trust me I would have loved to bring it down lower, but via Spears & Munsil and viewing the set, the numbers dont lie and I have an extremly dark viewing space. Mabe its just the size difference between the 65 and 73, I'm not sure if they use the same lamp Good thing the lamps are on the cheap side now

Mine was calibrated at 34 ftL with a colorimeter. Could be the size difference, I guess.

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I just got my new 82738. My old 65" Toshiba CRT RPTV didn't work correctly any more. The new 2011 82740 was a LOT more money and I didn't see any new features that interested me so I got the 2010 82738. I also got the 3D starter kit.

The TV is awesome. That said I don't believe the 3D is ready for prime time. The 3D menus in the manual do not match the actual menus. I can not get the 3D to work. I have a PS3 so it should be a well known source. The 82738 manual says set the 3D mode to ON but there is no ON. There is an OFF and a selection of automatic, side-by side, etc. I have tried all of them. On the emitter, the 3D mode active LED goes on then off. All I see are double images when using the demo Blu-ray included in the 3D starter kit.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rick R

You seem to have a book for original software 12.05 or lower but have a TV with later software 12.06 or higher. Look for some short of insert sheet in the paperwork or go to the 3D information section of the Mits site. http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/3D_...ncement_v7.pdf

I think that you do not need the adatper, you just need the glasses and if using the Mits IR glasses, then also the IR emitter and your 3D Blu-ray player.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I got it working. The problem was in the glasses. I mis-read the instructions. One blink after 3 seconds to turn on, three blinks to turn off. (I had reversed this in my mind.) Also I had a problem with the PS3 audio. When in HDMI mode it didn't output audio to the optical out. Found a PS3 menu to output to both simultaneously.

Now I am happy.

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