Originally Posted by SaltDoc
Well, my 82838 arrived today, just 2 days after I ordered it from a local store. What a wonderful experience. They brought it in unboxed and set it up for me. A few notes.
1. It gives that wow factor in size alone. My neighbors (woman) saw it delivered and had to come see it. She immediately said "wow", but said it again after I turned it on to a little "Up" on blu-ray. (kids got an early viewing".
2. My so-called calibration done before delivery was a farce - apparently they do unbox it, tone down some of the settings and make sure it works before delivery, but no true calibration.
3. A BIG thanks to jaseman for posting his settings. The set definitely needs calibration out of the box. His settings improved the picture a lot. However, it's not perfect for my set... It's still off but I can't tell exactly how on the colors. I wish there were more professional settings out there listed so I could average them or something to tweak it and make this work. Any chance looking at the 837 settings would be close enough to help me adjust? Probably need to just pay to get calibrated professionally but none in town.
4. Even though not advertised at the store I bought it from, I unexpectedly got the polk subwoofer deal. Didn't realize it was a manufacturer deal. Bonus!
5. I love this thing! Watching the Saints/Vikings game was unreal, and watched a lot of Transformers 2 and Avatar and it was like being in the theater, though my surround sound helps.
Now to tackle how to most cost effectively get 3D out of it with sound....
If you run the contrast above 58, the set maybe clipping. That single thing can cause it to appear washed out. Also, the color luminance needs to be set with a meter to get it right, there are people here who don't think that is important, most people who calibrate these sets will disagree. My experience on the Mits sets says it is quite important to get color luminance to be the right level to match white.
For everyone who has an interest in setting up their display in a reasonable way I suggest they obtain a copy of Spears and Munsil Blu-Ray Benchmark. It has the easiest to understand patterns to determine levels and verify that the set is not clipping. In general the black level should probably be about 34 and the contrast about 58. If those levels are too high you will get wash out on the screen. Try to manage your lighting in the room.
Also a back or bias light behind the set for dark viewing will increase the perceived contrast. You do have the lamp on bright right? That may not match up with Jasermans settings but the 82s sets are light limited, so to get more light without clipping set the lamp to bright.
In Spears and Munsil, the clipping screen will have 4 patterns. There is a white, red, green and blue clipping box. Each box is like a Russian doll. It has boxes inside boxes. So Red for example will have 6 I think shades of red, ideally you would want to be able to see each step of color in each of the big color box areas. You will probably not get that while making enough light. You asbolutely want to see all the steps in the white box, and try and get as many steps to show in the color box as possible. In a general sense, projector lamps are red limited. But on the Mits you might find two of the colors display all or most of the sets but one is completely flat without any steps. At the very least try to get all the boxes to show at least two steps.
What is happening when the set clips is it means you are getting the same shade of blue when the content has multiple shades. Blue is just an example. Now these different colors are at the max end of the color brightness range, but this is where your hightlights and sparkle are. Don't turn down contrast until the whole set is dull just to achieve no clipping on the pattern. Blue by the way is the color, the eye is least sensititive to. So loosing a clipping step or two in blue is not as important as in green or red.
The general rule when setting contrast is to go as high as you can without eye strain (not much chance o f getting that bright on the 82), no clipping, especially on white, and no color shift. When you look at the contrast patterns on the Spears and Munsil disk you should be able to make out all the steps and the grey should not shift toward red or blue as it gets brighter.
None of these suggestions are intended to contradict some set of settings you are using that someone else already worked out. They are just a way for you to do a sanity check and make sure your basic levels are right on your individual set using the basic contrast calibration rules. There are a couple of black level patterns on the disc. The pluge pattern is the basic one, once that is set right you should be able to see 17 on the dynamic range low pattern without seeing 16 which should be your background black. You might run a click higher during the day. Do the black first, the work contrast. Each of the pattern screens on Spears and Munsil have a help screen, to get there you use the up direction on the BD player remote.