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Old 04-10-2002, 08:06 PM - Thread Starter
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Just got back from NAB. Mits was showing a prototype 60" 4:3 single chip DLP RPTV - due out late this year or early next. The kicker is .... it is only 10" deep!!! Front serviceable. If it wasn't for the ~170lb weight (mostly screen) you could hang it on the wall. Hopefully they will get the weight down and the price down as well before it hits the market (no price quoted but I'm sure it will be high). I'm sure they will have 16:9 versions as well, with the new chips they will be >>1500:1 contrast ratio. Lots of cool stuff coming. Start saving those pennies.
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Old 04-10-2002, 08:53 PM
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4:3? Why would they make a 4:3 at this point, especially in an expensive model? Most purchasers of high-end equipment are going to want 16:9. I hope they do produce a 16:9 version as you specualte they will. I would be very interested in that case.
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Old 04-10-2002, 11:42 PM
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Why would you want to hang something 10 inches deep on the wall?? It would stick out way too much. It'd be hanging on the wall just for the sake of hanging it, not because it would look good.

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Old 04-11-2002, 07:38 AM
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Mitsubishi announced in a recent press release a new model of their 65" DLP set. It's the 65100. The press release doesn't say whether it will have the new HD2 chip or not.
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Mitsubishi announced in a recent press release a new model of their 65" DLP set. It's the 65100. The press release doesn't say whether it will have the new HD2 chip or not.
Do you happen to have a link to the press release? I'm curious as to whether they announced any smaller DLP models, maybe 55" or so.
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Old 04-11-2002, 10:47 AM
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Here's the address for the press release. http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pressreleases.html
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I think a lot of people may want a 4:3 screen, myself included. I use front projection for watching movies and quite a bit of TV. If I had a really nice 4:3 set I would probably watch most TV on the set. I still wonder if the 16:9 format will ever be adopted for television. My bet is 5 years from now there will still be much more 4:3 broadcast than 16:9, including 4:3 HD.
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IMy bet is 5 years from now there will still be much more 4:3 broadcast than 16:9, including 4:3 HD.
Not likely since the HDTV standard is 1.78. You may see 4:3 upconverts but it will not be HD.
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Old 04-11-2002, 04:42 PM
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The big news here is the new line of RPTV's do not have DVI. I can't believe they are not going to add DVI. I will have to scratch Mitsubishi from my list. I also can't believe the price of their new DLP set ($17,500) with no tuner. Are they nuts. Samsung is half the price.
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4:3 for computer use.

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Computers don't care what the proportions are any more, they support HD res just fine, though a progressive display is highly recommended. Note that a 16:9 display works well for two side by side pages of 8 1/2 x 11.
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casey,

I would scratch off your list any TV that DOES have DVI. DVI will destroy all home recording rights and turn all your digital sources into "pay per play" devices - super DIVX. You should be supporting all manufacturers who boycott DVI.
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In regards to DVI, I believe DVI, and HDCP over DVI are two different animals. HDCP is what we dont want, but I believe there are some DVI interfaces which do not support HDCP.

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You can say what you want but to buy an RPTV without DVI makes no sense. We are taking about taking a $6000 risk for no good reason. I've waited this long what's a few more months. So far I have Sony and Samsung DLP on my list. Mitsubishi is gone. I've not heard for sure what Pioneer is doing. I hope to buy one this fall. It's been a long wait.
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I also can't believe the price of their new DLP set ($17,500) with no tuner. Are they nuts. Samsung is half the price.
Actually, the 50" samsung DLP is listed for $4500, which is almost 1/4 of that cost. Where did you get $17,500? Mitstibishi will not sell ONE unit at that cost when the exact technology is available for 1/3 to 1/4 of that cost. Last year only a handful of WD65000's were sold for retail at $15,000. They would waste millions of dollars on inventory pile up which would NEVER sell at that amount and end up costing them in the end. Tre stupid.


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DVI will destroy all home recording rights and turn all your digital sources into "pay per play" devices - super DIVX
DVI is not the culprit, Yeringto. DVI is a digital two way interface that has been used for decades as a projector / PC interconnect medium for high bit transfers at high bandwidth. The fact that an HDTV has a DVI input on it means nothing, other than expanding its versitility, (ie with PC connection) just as it would by having an ieee 1394 port.

The culprit is HDCP which is the 'pay per play' encryption medium that is the origin of ill-will, not a DVI jack.

If I were to drop over $4000 on a purely digital HDTV (DLP, LCoS, plasma, etc) you DEFINITELY want a DVI-I input on it to receive digital input from your PC which will handle bandwith up to 360 MHz, which is about double what a VGA / DB15 standard cable will pass. It takes about 350 MHz of bandwidth to pass FULL high def signals of 1920 x 1080 at 60hz which some new stbs will be producing this coming year. (see MIT MDR 500 which has DVI outputs)

What will happen with the other hollywood copywright nonsense is anyone's guess, but is irrevelent to me. Worse case scenario, if films are downresolved or dropped, I would tell HBO-HD to bite me, drop the service, and just rent the HD-DVD to watch high def movies ANYTIME in 720p, instead of when HBO schedules them. The consumer will win this war, I'll guarantee. :D
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The Mit's 65100 is a 16:9 DLP set . Read the press release again...

"Featuring:
- 720 x 1280 Pixel DLP solid-state projection technology
- HD-Upgradeable design (480i, 480p, 720p & 1080i capability)
- VGA, S-VGA and XGA Computer Input Capability
- 5 S-Video, 2 480i & 480p Component, 1 HD Component & RGBHV, and 2 PC Inputs.
- Simultaneous Computer and Video or HDTV side-by-side Display Capability
- Front Surface Mirror
- 3D Y/C Digital 480-line Comb Filter"

The price is still nuts.:mad:

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