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From what i have read the go-to 3d bluray player for under $200 is the Panasonic bdt-210, my glasses get here tomorrow, I'll let you know how it does.

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Ordered the Expand X103 glasses/emitter pack along with 2 extra pairs of glasses and a few movies, can't wait to try out 3d (got a Panasonic BDT-210 for XMAS!).

I'll let give a quick review after they get here.

Did you get to try your setup today? I'm thinking of going the same route.
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As for projector BS. Your trying to use a huge 70+ size screen in your house. If you can fit that. You can fit a projector. Your point hasn't been made. It simply can't in this case. Your just WRONG. End of story.

Not if you dont have enough room for throw such as in my case. The mits is perfect for me, HUGE, great picture, great 3d, and cheap compared to anything that comes close to it. I cant use a projector in my room due to short throw distance and no way im spending 3x more on a smaller tv.
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JB360 why do you post in this thread? Do you plan on buying a DLP or do you own one? It seems like it's the same reason an Alabama football fan posts on a LSU football forum.
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...I don't see rear projection sets making if after this year...
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I read that in 2006 ...and 2007 ...and 2008 ...and 2009 ...and 2010 ...and 2011

Mitsubishi invented RPTV. Mitsubishi also made the first complete HDTV system sold in the U.S. http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/company/about

And they had consumer 3D DLPs as far back as 2007. The rest just caught up with 3D in 2010, and made a poor showing at that.

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Again. All dates when the gap was rather big. It's going to keep getting smaller and smaller. Poof!

How is it going to keep getting smaller and smaller, if your statement "All dates when the gap was rather big" (2006-2012) is true?

You contradict yourself. None of your posts make any sense.

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Why dlp over LCD or plasma. Size?

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JB360 why do you post in this thread? Do you plan on buying a DLP or do you own one? It seems like it's the same reason an Alabama football fan posts on a LSU football forum.

The quote above is what made my initial post.

To answer the own question. No. I no longer own a DLP. I owned a 60737. Pretty sure that was the model.
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How is it going to keep getting smaller and smaller, if your statement "All dates when the gap was rather big" (2006-2012) is true?

You contradict yourself. None of your posts make any sense.

I'm saying look at your range. 2006/2009 ish the gap was rather large. That gap has gotten much smaller from 2010 to present. It will only continue to get smaller as other tech is getting better and much cheaper.
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I read that in 2006 ...and 2007 ...and 2008 ...and 2009 ...and 2010 ...and 2011

Mitsubishi invented RPTV. Mitsubishi also made the first complete HDTV system sold in the U.S. http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/company/about

And they had consumer 3D DLPs as far back as 2007. The rest just caught up with 3D in 2010, and made a poor showing at that.

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I'm saying look at your range. 2006/2009 ish the gap was rather large. That gap has gotten much smaller from 2010 to present. It will only continue to get smaller as other tech is getting better and much cheaper.

Still no reason to believe DLPs will be gone next year. Mazdas got cheaper and Hondas are still around.



Wonder why the price gap has gotten smaller? I don't think I will be buying from any of these companies anytime soon.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/27/us-lcd-settlement-idUSTRE7BQ0KK20111227

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(Reuters) - Samsung Electronics Co, Sharp Corp and five other makers of liquid crystal displays agreed to pay more than $553 million to settle consumer and state regulatory claims that they conspired to fix prices for LCD panels in televisions, notebook computers and monitors. The settlement is the latest arising from lawsuits alleging the creation of an international cartel designed to illegally inflate prices and stifle competition in LCD panels...


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Did you get to try your setup today? I'm thinking of going the same route.

Yes, I just finished watching Ultimate Wave Tahiti, Legend of the Gaurdians and Resident Evil.

Wow just about sums it up.

The Xpand X103 glasses are great, plug the emitter in, turn the glasses on and your set. I had them on for over 3 hours straight and they felt great the entire time. My friend wore them over his glasses and they worked just as well for him. They come with 3 nose pieces, 2 extra batterries, and a nice soft bag to store them in.

The Panasonic bdt-210 also worked perfectly and if you hit the 3D button and change the 3D mode to Custom you get a few settings to tweak like depth and a few others, I'll have to do some reading to see what they do.

As for the tv, when I was looking for a tv 3D was not on my list at all but I can say that it will be from now on. It looked awesome, the 3D on these sets really is good.

I can't wait to get more 3D content. I thought I would get annoyed at having to wear the glasses and that the 3D effect would not be that great but my experience was completely opposite.
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Still no reason to believe DLPs will be gone next year. Mazdas got cheaper and Hondas are still around.

Wonder why the price gap has gotten smaller? I don't think I will be buying from any of these companies anytime soon.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7BQ0KK20111227

Who said anything about LCD? Plasma is where it's at!
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Who said anything about LCD? Plasma is where it's at!



What about all the predictions that plasma is obsolete?

from 2009 http://gigaom.com/2009/07/02/the-bel...or-plasma-tvs/

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What about all the predictions that plasma is obsolete?

from 2009 http://gigaom.com/2009/07/02/the-bel...or-plasma-tvs/

Unlike DLP. They actually make changes to there PDP panels every year. DLP hasn't made a big change it what. 5 years now? Picture looks the same in every one of em. SSE in all of em. Laser Vue is the only thing that's really caught my eye. To bad it's pricy as hell.
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Unlike DLP. They actually make changes to there PDP panels every year. DLP hasn't made a big change it what. 5 years now? Picture looks the same in every one of em. SSE in all of em. Laser Vue is the only thing that's really caught my eye. To bad it's pricy as hell.

DLP changes from 5 years ago (3D) just hit LCD and plasma 2 years ago. PDP changes are because of faults from the beginning, such as trails and burn in, among others. LCD is constantly upping the screen refresh to try to get a fast enough response time for motion. This in technologies that are at least 20 years older than DLP (Plasma 1964, LCD 1964, DLP 1987). Perhaps without DLP's competition, they wouldn't have to make those changes.

You're right about the picture looking the same from DLP TV to DLP TV. The three DLPs owned by family members look the same as mine. All are under 5 deltaE calibrated to SMPTE standards, and look just as accurate (except my son's TV is bigger, some sort of compensation complex I fear). They don't look all different colors like the TVs I see lined up at Best Buy, or all skewed like the in-law's Kuro (talk about not knowing anything except street rep.).

And if you want to talk SSE, don't forget SDE (screen door effect) in every plasma and LCD. DLP pixels have a smaller gap between them than plasma or LCD (Over 90% "fill factor", vs around 70%) and don't suffer from it.

All TVs have their advantages / disadvantages for the consumer to weigh. I'll take the occasional SSE (hockey game?) over permanent SDE anytime.

You are perfectly welcome to plasma, it has it's place, and I might even own one for the bedroom if the price was more reasonable to me. One weighs the options and buys accordingly.

For my situation DLP is closest to perfect in what features take priority in my living room. Plasma would be unwatchable for me due to the small screen size, SDE, slow pixel response and 3D ghosting. Pretty much the same goes for LCD. But I don't expect people to just take my word for it.

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Hey guys, new to AVS here. I'm using a Samsung PN51D550 1080P Plasma Active 3D display, and for some godforsaken reason, no matter what setting I change on this blasted TV, I get TERRIBLE crosstalk. I'm using the standard $50 glasses that came included with the TV.

Ghosting/Crosstalk is even evident in bright screens. Especially noticable in dark scenes. I've tried everything from adjusting the Perspective to changing the Contrast and Brightness. Still too severe to enjoy 3D viewing. I sit approximately 7-8 feet from the display.

I've read everywhere that these TV's hardly have any crosstalk issues. What gives? Thanks in advance!

And read even more here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/searc...rchid=20547511

I can live with DLPs faults (the real ones at least). I just tire from the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) sown by some people.

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...v,2632-10.html

Just a helpful link I thought I would post.

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I can live with DLPs faults (the real ones at least). I just tire from the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) sown by some people.

I was uncertain about a rear projection DLP when I started shopping for a TV back on Black Friday, being used to older rear projection units that family members have had over the years. A little research after coming across the WD-73640 for $999 at HHGregg showed me the newer technology was worth it. This was the best decision I've ever made purchasing a TV and am very pleased with this TV.

I had to wait 2 weeks for the delivery of my TV and in the meantime I ordered Hi-Speed HDMI cables from Newegg ($5.99 each), a Panasonic DMP-BDT210 3D Bluray player, a copy of Disney WOW Bluray (I haven't used it yet since this TV looks FANTASTIC right out of the box) and had DirecTV update my system to the latest HD DVR. I'm ordering 5 pairs of the TruDepth Rechargeable DLP-Link glasses tomorrow and can't wait for them to get here.

Another effect this TV has had on me & my family is that we've bought a bunch of Bluray movies in the last few weeks which we haven't done previously since DVD's played on our PS3 looked pretty good on my old 42" LCD, not anymore. I won't buy another title unless it's on Bluray and preferably available in 3D. My wife hates this fact, but luckily a lot of the Blurays I've been replacing my DVD's with are between $8-$15.

If you've already got a decent surround system, this TV is really hard to beat and anyone who speaks ill against it or the technology really has no clue as to what they're talking about. TRUTH!
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Mitsubishi WD-73640 ($699) + Tax ($51) + Free Shipping ($0) - Discover Cash Back Bonus ($70) = Total ($680)

And with the quality of what this TV can do, I am a very HAPPY camper!

So JukeBox, just keep on hatin'

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haha I got you beat....677 here :-)
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I got you both beat. I only paid $655.00.

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what? 4.x% tax rate? or you got more than 10% kick back?
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Mitsubishi WD-73640 ($699) + Tax ($51) + Free Shipping ($0) - Discover Cash Back Bonus ($70) = Total ($680)

And with the quality of what this TV can do, I am a very HAPPY camper!

So JukeBox, just keep on hatin'

No ones hatin man. I'd consider one at that price. Free shipping is a must.
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what? 4.x% tax rate? or you got more than 10% kick back?

For me it was the Discover Card Cash back, plus I used an old Best Buy gift card that I got years ago for xmas. It was for like $40.00 or so.

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For me it was the Discover Card Cash back, plus I used an old Best Buy gift card that I got years ago for xmas. It was for like $40.00 or so.

OK Gift cards don't count, cuz if I knew you had them, I would have jacked them off of you!

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I paid $1400 locally back in october and I am happy as could be.

No one will ship a TV to AK so you have to go through a frieght forwarder, 2-3 different shipping companies means high chance of being damaged and who's going to take responsability?

We don't get great deals on most items up here, especially huge ones, I was very happy to save $100 off msrp.

The funny thing is the 640 was the cheapest tv they had, yet had the biggest picture (other than the other mits tv's) and a very nice picture at that. Now with it dialed in it looks amazing, 3d is great, gaming is perfect, I haven't even heard the speakers so I could care less how they sound.

Btw I have an old 42" samsung plasma that I paid $1300 new on sale around 4-5 years ago, $100 less than the 640, WOW. The mits is 3x as big and has a better picture.
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Anyone who has spend any REAL IN HOME time with an LCD or Plasma and DLP will know what benefits of the DLP are. I have a 65" Mits and had a top-of-the-line ($2700), highly rated, 65" LED LCD for 2 months.

I tweaked the heck out of both my DLP & LCD.

I'm VERY critical viewer and watch a lot of 1080i, 1080p, 480p, and 720p material.

They each have pluses and minus but overall the DLP looks more natural, more detailed (easily seen with face closeups of people), and for the $ the DLP EASILY kills any other TV by a 2 to 3 x margin.

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Anyone who has spend any REAL IN HOME time with an LCD or Plasma and DLP will know what benefits of the DLP are. I have a 65" Mits and had a top-of-the-line ($2700), highly rated, 65" LED LCD for 2 months.

I tweaked the heck out of both my DLP & LCD.

I'm VERY critical viewer and watch a lot of 1080i, 1080p, 480p, and 720p material.

They each have pluses and minus but overall the DLP looks more natural, more detailed (easily seen with face closeups of people), and for the $ the DLP EASILY kills any other TV by a 2 to 3 x margin.

LMAO. Awe man. I needed a good laugh. By the way. There isn't a single "highly rated" 65 inch LED set out there.

I'm not saying DLP is horrible. It's more cost effective. BY THE WAY. A DLP is literally impossible to be as sharp as flat panel tech. It's one flaw of DLP. Again. Not saying its horrible. It's just in the tech.

Walk up to the picture. Even the most expensive DLP projectors or RPTV it will still by slightly jagged. NO tech is perfect. We all know this. In the end. It's about living with what's best for YOU.
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LMAO. Awe man. I needed a good laugh. By the way. There isn't a single "highly rated" 65 inch LED set out there.

I'm not saying DLP is horrible. It's more cost effective. BY THE WAY. A DLP is literally impossible to be as sharp as flat panel tech. It's one flaw of DLP. Again. Not saying its horrible. It's just in the tech.

That's not true my dlp is as sharp as I want it to be! given the source itself is up to par faces are better than Led or plasma, in fact I turn the sharpness down !

Walk up to the picture. Even the most expensive DLP projectors or RPTV it will still by slightly jagged. NO tech is perfect. We all know this. In the end. It's about living with what's best for YOU.

Keep in mind you are walking up to a rather large display I walk up to my Dlp often, amazed at the ability to get so close
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Jukebox360 I was wondering if you could give a list of the projectors, screens you have been comparing to the Mits 73 inch tvs so we can look up the info, reviews, etc on them.

If I missed it on previous posts please tell me and I will find it.
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PowerLite Home Cinema 8350

HD20

Epson-3010

HC4000(One of my fav)

All really good projectors. HD20 is best bang for buck. Runs like a champ. As for screens. DIY is the way to go.
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I've had my 73640 running for about a month now. It replaced my 7 year old Philips 60 inch rear projection which has been losing its brightness over the last few years. The picture is fantastic and I love the fact that there is very little glare in our bright living room. I thought the 73 inches might seem somewhat big in our room, but it doesn't seem overly big. Only complaint would be the sound, bought a Vizio sound bar and now the sound is what you would expect from a good sounding TV. My daughter got us a Sony BX58 3D Blu Ray DVD player for Christmas. I have searched various forums and still cannot figure out if this DVD player supports the Checkerboard format needed.
From what I have read the best 3D Blu Ray players for the Mitsubishi are some of the Panasonic ones but I would hate to return the Sony.
Still need to buy the 3D DLP Link glasses. Has anyone here tried using the Sony BX58 with the 73640 for 3D? Any chance the two work together to get
3D?
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