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I just picked up my 92840 on Sunday, it came with version 13.03.
How do you like it?

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I love the 92840, I replaced a 3yr old 65" Panasonic plasma with it.
Before I got it home, I was feeling that I might have made a step backwards going from plasma to DLP. (My tv before that was the monster original Mitsubishi 82" LCOS WL-82??).
I feel the 92840 has a slightly softer picture compared to the plasma but overall I am thrilled with the set. The 3D is amazing on a set this size! I feel if you truly want a great 3D experience, SIZE MATTERS!!
Note: I did not by this set for 3D. I bought it for size. But now I love 3D!

As for Black Levels, They are the best I have seen on a DLP, just a hair below plasma.
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I love the 92840, I replaced a 3yr old 65" Panasonic plasma with it.
Before I got it home, I was feeling that I might have made a step backwards going from plasma to DLP. (My tv before that was the monster original Mitsubishi 82" LCOS WL-82??).
I feel the 92840 has a slightly softer picture compared to the plasma but overall I am thrilled with the set. The 3D is amazing on a set this size! I feel if you truly want a great 3D experience, SIZE MATTERS!!
Note: I did not by this set for 3D. I bought it for size. But now I love 3D!

As for Black Levels, They are the best I have seen on a DLP, just a hair below plasma.
Iceman, thanks for the update!

The 3D comment you made is the same one I hear voiced over and over with this new series, people are getting the sets and then sort of discovering 3D as an afterthought and being really impressed with it.

Which glasses did you pick up? How are the off-center viewing angles?

We have a sectional that wraps around the TV in the center of the living room, curious how folks on the outskirts would fair if we started doing movie night with it.

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Do you think this is big enough to hold the 92".. its 23" H x 66" W x 20.38" , there will an over hang of 7.95" on each side of the stand.. does that really matter since the base is only about 43" wide? My current tv over hangs the stand 6.5" on each side.

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I recently received my WD92840 and love it for 2D viewing. I now want to explore getting into 3D and am trying to decide on which glasses to buy. Has anyone done a comparison between 3Active glasses versus Xpand X103? The price difference is significant especially when I'm looking at 6 pair.
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I also posted this in the other thread about the 92" TV:

Anyone use the Techcraft BCE82 82 inch wide stand with this? I have this on the way, but I'm now regretting the decision and thinking about a custom stand. If anyone is considering this stand, I could probably give you a good deal on it rather than pay for all the shipping/restocking.
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Iceman, thanks for the update!

The 3D comment you made is the same one I hear voiced over and over with this new series, people are getting the sets and then sort of discovering 3D as an afterthought and being really impressed with it.

Which glasses did you pick up? How are the off-center viewing angles?

We have a sectional that wraps around the TV in the center of the living room, curious how folks on the outskirts would fair if we started doing movie night with it.



I find that the best angle is obviously head on, but it is pretty decent to about 45 degrees off center, after that it seems to fall off rapidly. I have both the expand 103 universal glasses and the x3dng Mitsubishi glasses, and they both seem equal to me.
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So I left it off a little longer and now at 13.03. Good deal.

Still curious on settings for the 73740 though
Thanks all!
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I'm curious about any ones settings for the WD82840.

Does anyone have any ideas?
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I have the 82740. The inputs recognize my blu-ray player and computer feeding at 1080p but shows 480p for the cable connection (everything connected with HDMI). It's clear that it's not 480p as some of the channels tested are clearly HD (especially when viewing HBO movies and some other channels). Any ideas?
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One thing I noticed about the 73740 is that the lamp puts out A LOT more heat than my 61" Samsung DLP did. I would highly recommend leaving AT LEAST 12" or more behind the lamp vents to provide enough air circulation to prevent overheating the lamp and thereby shortening its life.

Even the drywall behind the set was getting warm from the heat coming out of the vents, and the wall is at least 15" from the vents.

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Here is the 73740: (excuse the flash, it bounced off of the screen so it caused a glare)




One thing I noticed immediately stepping up from a 61" DLP is that anything below 720p DOES NOT look good. So anything like 480p or lower looks bad on these sets. With my 61" DLP, 480p was OK but not as bad as with the 73". The reason is simple, as the bigger the display, the more it enlarges the defects in the poorer quality picture. It's like taking a 1megapixel picture and blowing it up, the pic looks really bad, but if you shrink it down, it looks good.

I can only imagine that the 83" and 92" makes this issue even more pronounced. As long as the image is 720p/i or 1080p/i, the larger sets are AWESOME.

The TV speakers are actually pretty decent. Turned it up half-way and they were loud and clear. Of course I use my receiver for movies but for regular TV watching, the TV speakers work great.

I haven't tried the 3D yet as I am awaiting for my Avatar to arrive in the mail. I don't know where Mitsubishi hid the IR emitter but it's built-in so I expect that it is somewhere on the bottom area of the set?
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I have the 82740. The inputs recognize my blu-ray player and computer feeding at 1080p but shows 480p for the cable connection (everything connected with HDMI). It's clear that it's not 480p as some of the channels tested are clearly HD (especially when viewing HBO movies and some other channels). Any ideas?

Actually, when I reconnected the cable box to my 73640, it reset to the lowest default which was 480p. On the front of the cable box I had to hit the Format buttom till it was on 1080i. See if this is the case with yours also.

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Actually, when I reconnected the cable box to my 73640, it reset to the lowest default which was 480p. On the front of the cable box I had to hit the Format buttom till it was on 1080i. See if this is the case with yours also.

That was it! Didn't even know there was a format button on the cable box, thanks! Much appreciated.
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I love the 92840, I replaced a 3yr old 65" Panasonic plasma with it.

The 92" is a beast.

I am wondering how Mitsubishi is able to use the same lamp in the 92" that they use in the 73"? Does not the lamp have to project its lumen over a wider area but still use the same wattage to do so? You would figure that the brightness would diminish in the larger set.
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The 92" is a beast.

I am wondering how Mitsubishi is able to use the same lamp in the 92" that they use in the 73"? Does not the lamp have to project its lumen over a wider area but still use the same wattage to do so? You would figure that the brightness would diminish in the larger set.

That was exactly my first question (because it used to be an issue with the early x31-series) but Bonsai and 1 other fellow back around page 12 or 13 said that wasn't the case and the 92" still has plenty of pop to it.

I think a side-by-side would be the only sure fire way to test this, but at least no one has said the picture is necessarily "dim" which is what I want to avoid.

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Just checking in to say we're totally happy with our 73740 so far. We're like little kids when watching anything in HD now. Especially 3D content, it's so amazing. I keep saying maybe we'll stop saying wow, awesome, and unbelievable all the time while watch stuff, but it's still happening....... LOL

Hope everyone else is enjoying their new Mitsubishi as much as we are.........
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If anyone has plans to pick up Transformers: Dark of the Moon on the 30th of this month, I'd be curious to know how it looks.

We saw that in IMAX 3D when it came out and the 3D specifically, blew me away. I'd be curious to know how that movie (since I have a point of reference) ends up looking on the x40 mits.

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The 92" is a beast.

I am wondering how Mitsubishi is able to use the same lamp in the 92" that they use in the 73"? Does not the lamp have to project its lumen over a wider area but still use the same wattage to do so? You would figure that the brightness would diminish in the larger set.

Long before these 92 inch sets actually were delivered there was an exchange on this subject on another thread. I was wondering if Mits would use a brighter bulb, given that the 82 looked noticeably darker in anything less than optimal circumstances than the 73 inch model.

In reading some papers on rear projection it became clear that screens can and do absorb a significant amount of light. A screen, in this context , becomes a filter. The Clear Contrast screens apparently increase transmittance of light. Additionally, as it is well known in the computer display world, glossy screens can increase contrast and richness of colors compared to matte screens, at the cost of increased reflectivity, which is why some prudent light control is advisable with these sets.

If you had a hundred watt bulb and looked at it with your bare eyes, and your friend looked at it through slightly darkened sunglasses, who would see more light? Mits, apparently, took off the sunglasses with these new screens.

There are, undoubtedly, many aspects to these improved screens involving how the light is dispersed (scattering of light), and other optical properties. If you looked at the design of the glossy screen CRT RPTVs Mitsubishis you will see that these screens had multiple layers to control these optical qualities.

Heat (from higher wattage bulbs, for example) is inimical to most optical engines, including DLPs, and Energy Star impels manufacturers to pare down down energy consumption. So Mits engineers apparently figured out how to optimize things through screen design.

Very smart of them.
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That was it! Didn't even know there was a format button on the cable box, thanks! Much appreciated.

No problem. Its the little things that will drive you nuts!

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Long before these 92 inch sets actually were delivered there was an exchange on this subject on another thread.



In reading some papers on rear projection it became clear that screens can and do absorb a significant amount of light. A screen, in this context , becomes a filter. The Clear Contrast screens apparently increase transmittance of light.



Mits, apparently, took off the sunglasses with these new screens.

taichi, great writeup. Thanks for the clarification.

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Has anybody watched any 3D content via a PC with TotalMedia Theatre 5 on any of the 840 series sets?

Don't a 3D blu-ray player yet but have a blu-ray drive in my htpc where I can rip a 3D disc to the HDD and watch using TotalMedia Theatre 5.

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It appears the xx740 does not have streaming Netflix as an option. I will have to use to BlueRay player to stream Netflix.
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taichi, great writeup. Thanks for the clarification.

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Hey guys. Thanks for everyone's input and posts. It helped formulate my own decisions. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a WD-73840 today. It is being delivered tomorrow. I compared it to the WD-82840 in the store side by side; but, could not really justify the price difference and at least to me - the 73840 seemed sharper and crisper. The 2 were sitting side by side. They also had a WD-83838 next to the 82840. I would recommend the newer series to anyone thinking about the older ones. Not that the older ones are bad - but, compared to the newer series - the 838 and 738 are NOT equivalent to my 'amateur eye'. So, unless you are getting a screaming deal on the 738/838 - I would consider saving up and just getting the newer series instead.

I already have a WD-65838 - so, I am going to move that downstairs to the basement and I'll put it in front of my 92" Severtson screen (I think it is 92" or is it 96" - I forget exactly: pretty sure it is 92" though). I have 2 small infants that just learned to walk - so, I am going projector less for a bit. I would need to run many wires to connect my speakers and decided just getting another larger tv for the family room and moving the smaller one to basement until my boys learn how not to chew on wires or pull them. If you guys are interested, I'll try to post pictures up showing what a 65" looks like compared to a 92" screen.

My screen is also coming with a small powered subwoofer that the store included. I was tempted by the WD-73740; but, because I cannot run wires (my kids love chewing on them) - I wanted to eliminate the surround sound system in the family room as well, and the 16 speaker sounded pretty good. New parents probably understand where I am coming from. We have A LOT of windows (6' tall - palladium style andersen). Probably alone in the family room - we have 6 sets of windows. So, there is A LOT of light. That is another reason I did not go with the 82840. The glare in just the store was pretty pronounced. Our home is situated enough that we get light throughout the day. However, just my perception - the 73740 seems brighter and sharper than the 82840. I checked the settings on each one in the store - and they were exactly the same and I turned it to the same channel, then ran the same blu-ray's through it. The 92840 is MASSIVE. It made the 65" it was sitting next to and the aquos 70" look "SMALL".

I also bought a solid cherry entertainment stand - the stand is 67" wide. So, I will have an extra 1" on each side. This is what I wanted (again - for those with little infants grabbing everything - you'll see why). Plus, I asked them to set the 82840 on top (the store was pretty awesome and accomodating to me; but, then again - it was pretty dead in the store) - and, it actually looked okay. Maybe it is an illusion - but the extra 2" from a 65" wide stand made a difference and I could use it if I ever decided to go bigger. I did not get the extra warranty because it did not cover bulbs, and my AMEX gives me an additional year of protection (including bulbs - so, good reason to brush off that AMEX: and yes, I called them to make sure before I charged it on there) and also price protection for 90 days (so, this should get me into the potential sales for christmas if price goes down).

I look forward to getting it. I'll post my initial thoughts. I know it is a huge decision and money commitment for all of us, and hope my feedback helps someone else as others' feedback here has helped me.
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I just measured my Salamander custom.
Same size as the unit pictured.
I currently have WD-82837 on it. Just a few months ago, I purchased six binding posts from my dealer then asked my good neighbour to help reinforce these posts underneath.

I hope to send Mitsubishi, my upgrade $ amount in 2 weeks.
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What do you mean by "I hope to send Mitsubishi, my upgrade $ amount in 2 weeks" just curious.

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not to rehash a big thing but just to confirm. Are the Xpand X103s the glasses we should be getting for this? Or is there something better out there? Thanks
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not to rehash a big thing but just to confirm. Are the Xpand X103s the glasses we should be getting for this? Or is there something better out there? Thanks

Yep, the Xpand 103's are made for the 740/840 series with the internal IR emitter. I just got mine the other day.
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