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I have a 82740. What settings do you use for 3D? I watched Fright Night 3D last night and it was way too dark. I have the tv set to bright. Any help would be appreciated.
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The second issue is I get no audio from the audio out jack except when I play blu ray discs. This is totally bizarre, and makes no sense. Turning the "speaker on/off" feature has no effect whatsoever.

What are you trying to do? HDMi audio normally does NOT go out the "audio jack" of the TV. Why would you even want to do that?

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What are you trying to do? HDMi audio normally does NOT go out the "audio jack" of the TV. Why would you even want to do that?

I have a sub/satellite system hooked to the audio out jack because the built in speakers suck. All audio from the tv should come through that jack if you set the speakers to "off", not just when playing blu ray discs. I'm hoping the firmware update fixes that too.
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I just got the 82740 and needed a stand badly, as the stand I used for my previous Mits 60" was way to high. I found the perfect solution at Ikea yesterday. It's the Lack tv stand, for $50. It's the perfect height at 13". Great build quality and comes in 3 colors.

I like the stand but don't think I could fit all the components on only one shelve. My current stand is kind of high (22") but it has two shelves. It's kind of high for the WD-82740.

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I have a sub/satellite system hooked to the audio out jack because the built in speakers suck. All audio from the tv should come through that jack if you set the speakers to "off", not just when playing blu ray discs. I'm hoping the firmware update fixes that too.

Is this for live TV via antenna? Again licensing normally prevents digital audio from any source besides antenna from going out the optical port, particularly multi-channel. Normally you go straight from your source to the receiver of your audio system.

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Is this for live TV via antenna? Again licensing normally prevents digital audio from any source besides antenna from going out the optical port, particularly multi-channel. Normally you go straight from your source to the receiver of your audio system.

I just looked at the manual for the 840 and I see it is coax out. It says what digital audio comes in is available to go out. I am doubtful that is the whole story. I know there is surround sound processing and apparently some licensing was probably required to support that. Still, I don't know of many current TVs that will output digital audio mutli-channel from an HDMI input.

Usually unless the input is the antenna only dual channel stereo PCM singla comes out. I dont use audio out of the TV, I send my sources to a Video Processor first which splits the audio and video. The video processor then sends audio out on a dedicated HDMI to the AVR and vdieo out to the TV... so I have no reason to explore the TV's digital audioout

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My receiver is not HDMI 1.4a compliant, which means I have to use the digital coax out of the TV. It does output in 5.1 from over air signals. If you have a 1.4a compliant receiver, it should pass the signal back through to the amplifier via one of your HDMI inputs of the TV.
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Just got a new center channel stand - thought I would share another pic of my 73740...


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Won 3 more pairs of Xpand universal glasses on eBay this weekend - sort of on accident... bid on 3 different auctions and just happened to win them all! At least now if we have friends over they can watch 3D also

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I have the wd-82740 and after reading all this thread and mostly everything I can find, I still dont have the answer to this question?

DO I NEED THE 3DA-1 ADAPTER TO WATCH 3D ON THIS TV??

The reason for asking this is, I have tried these out with my tv, denon avr-1912, and sony PS3 and the 3d does not look that good(no real depth)
Or is there some setting I am missing?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this ?
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I have the wd-82740 and after reading all this thread and mostly everything I can find, I still dont have the answer to this question?

DO I NEED THE 3DA-1 ADAPTER TO WATCH 3D ON THIS TV??

The reason for asking this is, I have tried these out with my tv, denon avr-1912, and sony PS3 and the 3d does not look that good(no real depth)
Or is there some setting I am missing?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this ?

Unless I'm confused that TV should have the same internal emitter as I have with my 73740 - so the answer to your question is: "It depends on what glasses you are trying to use"

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Unless I'm confused that TV should have the same internal emitter as I have with my 73740 - so the answer to your question is: "It depends on what glasses you are trying to use"

SORRY, I should have put this in there, I have the XPAND x103 that I got for free from mitsubishi!

By the way nice setup!
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lots of auth dealers will match unauth sellers also.

Thanks for the tip. I did request a price match from an authorized dealer (Walts) and they did match the price so I will be ordering from them.
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Circuit city has the 82740 for $1899 + $145 shipping.
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Just got a new center channel stand - thought I would share another pic of my 73740...


OT...What is the blue figure "planking" on the bottom of the cabinet?

I'm so jealous of the Man Cave space you have in your home. DW would never see me if I had that space.

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OT...What is the blue figure "planking" on the bottom of the cabinet?

I'm so jealous of the Man Cave space you have in your home. DW would never see me if I had that space.

LOL!
That is Dr. Manhattan from The Watchmen... he fell off his stand when I was watching some of the LFE scenes on the Home Theater Demo Disc - I didn't notice him until I had already taken the picture.

His stand is on the shelf above where he is "planking"... Frank the bunny from Donnie Darko, Eric from the Crow, and Patrick Bateman from American Psycho hang out on the shelf above him normally...

Wife has her "scrapbooking room" upstairs on the main floor - so I needed somewhere! Oh the compromises we make... As far as the basement - she loves helping decorating the movie area, but rarely uses it... so I have pretty much free reign to do what I want there.

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So im curious about this tv guys, im totally out the loop other than some surface stuff i am catching up on.

I have a 61" 1080p Sammy from 06, HL-S6187W model...and basically what i want to know is how do the Mitsubishi 82s stack up too it. Im sure it kicks ass, its not that im asking but what i mean is can i assume that what i see on the 61" right now would look the same on an 82 or is it even "better"...in terms of quality with these newer DLPs?

And do you guys feel that DLP is most definitely the way to go, i think the tech is great..ive never had one issue with my DLP.

Also, who games on theirs...im assuming its pretty incredible.

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So im curious about this tv guys, im totally out the loop other than some surface stuff i am catching up on.

I have a 61" 1080p Sammy from 06, HL-S6187W model...and basically what i want to know is how do the Mitsubishi 82s stack up too it. Im sure it kicks ass, its not that im asking but what i mean is can i assume that what i see on the 61" right now would look the same on an 82 or is it even "better"...in terms of quality with these newer DLPs?

And do you guys feel that DLP is most definitely the way to go, i think the tech is great..ive never had one issue with my DLP.

Also, who games on theirs...im assuming its pretty incredible.

SD looses a bit when the size goes up. If your room will not be subject to reflections the 82840 will produce amazing results. I bought the 92" and am quite pleased. It is better in almost every way compared to my 2009 82". If your room has a lot of light shining on the screen stay away from the clear screen 840s, and go with the 740, otherwise they rock, they are just so much sharper. By the time you get to the 92" a lot of the crummy news clips off camera phones that CNNHD likes to run from the war zone of the hour can be a mess. I did not notice nearly this nearly as badly on my 82".

If you have the right lighting the 82840 will produce an excellent image and will be even brighter than the 92840 which is way brighter than my 2009 82837 was/is. Kind of amazing since the lamps are the same wattage.

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SD looses a bit when the size goes up. If your room will not be subject to reflections the 82840 will produce amazing results. I bought the 92" and am quite pleased. It is better in almost every way compared to my 2009 82". If your room has a lot of light shining on the screen stay away from the clear screen 840s, and go with the 740, otherwise they rock, they are just so much sharper. By the time you get to the 92" a lot of the crummy news clips off camera phones that CNNHD likes to run from the war zone of the hour can be a mess. I did not notice nearly this nearly as badly on my 82".

If you have the right lighting the 82840 will produce an excellent image and will be even brighter than the 92840 which is way brighter than my 2009 82837 was/is. Kind of amazing since the lamps are the same wattage.

Nah its sort of a darker room, although sometimes mid day if its really sunny out it can be semi bright in the room but not any direct light hitting the screen really.

I think whats making me torn is i havent yet found a model locally to check it out.

Heres a question though, just off general consensus....is it fair and safe to say that the 82"s are pretty much outside of the size obviously, but quality of the DLP picture leagues ahead of the 06 HLS models simply by default?

I am only asking as many questions as i can simply because most likely if i do buy one it will be without visibly seeing it.

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Question: Does the TV "accept" an incoming 1080i signal? I ask because I was playing Skyrim last night and I just happened to hit the "Info" button on the TV remote and it showed "720p Standard" down in the left hand corner of the TV.
I'm wondering why it isn't showing up in 1080i, since that is what the game should be displayed in (according to the packaging). I heard about the "amazing" graphics with this game, but so far I'm not blown away...

This is via HDMI from the PS3 "passing through" my Harman Kardon 3600 AVR.

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Question: Does the TV "accept" an incoming 1080i signal? I ask because I was playing Skyrim last night and I just happened to hit the "Info" button on the TV remote and it showed "720p Standard" down in the left hand corner of the TV.
I'm wondering why it isn't showing up in 1080i, since that is what the game should be displayed in (according to the packaging). I heard about the "amazing" graphics with this game, but so far I'm not blown away...

This is via HDMI from the PS3 "passing through" my Harman Kardon 3600 AVR.

I found this while looking for an answer on your Skyrim specific question:

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With PS3, under the "display settings", it supports 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Since Skyrim does not support 1080p, the console upscales the 1080i (540-lines per screen shot) to 720p (720-lines per screen shot). It does so in the written programming for the console. However, the PS3 (or any other electronic device) cannot upscale from 1080i to 1080p. The conversion cannot make up for that amount of loss per screen shot. So, that is why the PS3 console reverts the screen resolution back to 720p from my settings of 1080p. 720p is a higher resolution per screen shot than 1080i, and since it cannot render up to 1080p, it chooses the next higher resolution setting.

I hope it is correct and that it helps.
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Just got another price quote for the 82840 for 2399 from walts so I went ahead and pulled the trigger. I should have it in about seven days.

Now I have got to buy some glasses. I saw that amazon has the 3DGX103 XPAND 3D for $64. Are these the most optimal to get for this TV?
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I found this while looking for an answer on your Skyrim specific question:

I hope it is correct and that it helps.

Thank you for that.
I had higher expectations for the visuals in the game - kind of underwhelmed...

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Watching movies on the 82" brings the makes the background more visable so you see what the director intended with the movie. Pretty neat as you really miss a lot of details with a smaller viewing area. Considered the 92", but it would be a bit much for me as the 82' fills the bill nicely.
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Nah its sort of a darker room, although sometimes mid day if its really sunny out it can be semi bright in the room but not any direct light hitting the screen really.

I think whats making me torn is i havent yet found a model locally to check it out.

Heres a question though, just off general consensus....is it fair and safe to say that the 82"s are pretty much outside of the size obviously, but quality of the DLP picture leagues ahead of the 06 HLS models simply by default?

I am only asking as many questions as i can simply because most likely if i do buy one it will be without visibly seeing it.

I think the short answer to your question is yes, although "leagues ahead" might be a tough call. I looked at a CNET review of your TV from 2007 (56" model), and it was very well regarded. The reviewer noted some rainbow effects and some color accuracy issues, but it was a strong review. From the various threads and from my own experience, I would expect the 82840 to produce an even better and more accurate picture than your Samsung. And that is with a 75% increase in size, which is no small accomplishment (pun intended, I guess). I also had to buy sight-unseen based on my prior experience with DLP's, and based on the comments of other owners. I wasn't disappointed. The new DLP's are better, as you saw from Gtgrays post, even compared to the 2009 models.
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Pulled the trigger on the 92840 and my 92840 will be getting delivered this Saturday. Never in a million years thought I would be going with a local store. The only local store to even have it is HGgregg and the sticker price was 5600 a few weeks ago. But they said they would match price with anyone, even online. I didn't believe them. So I went in this weekend, told them Amazon was 4150, Showwed a couple others that were under 4000 if I wanted to deal with them (which I didn't and wouldn't but they didn't need to know that) and told them i had been waiting for the price to go to 4 grand and will continue to wait till it does and what can they offer best price AFTER taxes no BS. I told them i was fully prepared to wait to see what "after-Christmas" prices were going to drop to. They went down to $4055 total which beat Amazon by 100 and that included the tax, so ... oky dokey.

Now back to the vertical viewing angle conundrum. The "perfect" stand for my situation doesn't exist. It just doesn't. Aesthetics aside, as mentioned before, I don't want a stand as long as the TV because I wouldn't be able to get behind it to the cables and what not. I have a ton of stuff and will need to be able to crawl behind the TV, with a stand that allows the PC on one side and sub-woofer on the other while the equipment on the actual shelves i can pull out the woofer or PC to crawl/slither back there if needed to get to things. The TV is kind of in a corner, large room, but trust me, too wide a stand would be disastrous in getting to anything behind it (bad back too, but can slither, just can't lift stuff).

This stand is 22" depth, can hold the 200 pound weight of the 92" TV, is very open for ventilation, the only negative is the height. It is "less" negative than the negative i spoke of on the stand two pages before, but it is still too tall compared to what the optimum vertical viewing angle would be. It is 25". That would place it about 12 to 13" too high? I could remove the stands caster wheels, reducing maybe 2 more inches, but that would be at the cost of any and all mobility and possibly cost of some stability as well. I just did not see any other stand options out there that were deep enough (20+ inches), supported the weight (200 pounds on top shelf), open enough for ventilation proper, were not too wide for me personally and what I wanted (42"-45"), AND not too tall in height...

Reading what was mentioned before... options are

furniture raisers... could add 4 to 6 inches; but from what I saw they looked ghastly and would have to be put under every single chair and sofa to be effective.

floor platforms... like in home theaters, could add some height, maybe 8 inches but a lot of effort, maybe not for all the seats, and could get quite costly and/or labor intensive

tilt the TV... if there were a way to "safely" pull this off this would be the preferable way to go, but it is by far the scariest. How much of a raise or tilt up on the back end would be needed to offset the 12 or 13 inches in height I am exceeding from the stand? an inch? 2? Could a mount be installed to the back of the TV and cables used to secure it to the wall? I can just picture that.... lol...I tried explaining all this to my fiancee. Her comments were along the lines of... "You mean to tell me you would go to all that trouble just for an extra inch or two?".... I laughed, at first she didn't get it... LOL
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Pulled the trigger on the 92840 and my 92840 will be getting delivered this Saturday. Never in a million years thought I would be going with a local store. The only local store to even have it is HGgregg and the sticker price was 5600 a few weeks ago. But they said they would match price with anyone, even online. I didn't believe them. So I went in this weekend, told them Amazon was 4150, Showwed a couple others that were under 4000 if I wanted to deal with them (which I didn't and wouldn't but they didn't need to know that) and told them i had been waiting for the price to go to 4 grand and will continue to wait till it does and what can they offer best price AFTER taxes no BS. I told them i was fully prepared to wait to see what "after-Christmas" prices were going to drop to. They went down to $4055 total which beat Amazon by 100 and that included the tax, so ... oky dokey.

Now back to the vertical viewing angle conundrum. The "perfect" stand for my situation doesn't exist. It just doesn't. Aesthetics aside, as mentioned before, I don't want a stand as long as the TV because I wouldn't be able to get behind it to the cables and what not. I have a ton of stuff and will need to be able to crawl behind the TV, with a stand that allows the PC on one side and sub-woofer on the other while the equipment on the actual shelves i can pull out the woofer or PC to crawl/slither back there if needed to get to things. The TV is kind of in a corner, large room, but trust me, too wide a stand would be disastrous in getting to anything behind it (bad back too, but can slither, just can't lift stuff).

This stand is 22" depth, can hold the 200 pound weight of the 92" TV, is very open for ventilation, the only negative is the height. It is "less" negative than the negative i spoke of on the stand two pages before, but it is still too tall compared to what the optimum vertical viewing angle would be. It is 25". That would place it about 12 to 13" too high? I could remove the stands caster wheels, reducing maybe 2 more inches, but that would be at the cost of any and all mobility and possibly cost of some stability as well. I just did not see any other stand options out there that were deep enough (20+ inches), supported the weight (200 pounds on top shelf), open enough for ventilation proper, were not too wide for me personally and what I wanted (42"-45"), AND not too tall in height...

Reading what was mentioned before... options are

furniture raisers... could add 4 to 6 inches; but from what I saw they looked ghastly and would have to be put under every single chair and sofa to be effective.

floor platforms... like in home theaters, could add some height, maybe 8 inches but a lot of effort, maybe not for all the seats, and could get quite costly and/or labor intensive

tilt the TV... if there were a way to "safely" pull this off this would be the preferable way to go, but it is by far the scariest. How much of a raise or tilt up on the back end would be needed to offset the 12 or 13 inches in height I am exceeding from the stand? an inch? 2? Could a mount be installed to the back of the TV and cables used to secure it to the wall? I can just picture that.... lol...I tried explaining all this to my fiancee. Her comments were along the lines of... "You mean to tell me you would go to all that trouble just for an extra inch or two?".... I laughed, at first she didn't get it... LOL



Congratulations! I was pretty excited when I got my new one and I think you will really like it.

Have you considered having a custom stand built to your own specifications? The idea of doing that seemed a little intimidating to me at first, but I couldn't find quite what I was looking for, so that is what I did. It really wasn't hard to find someone to do it; it cost $350; and I am very satisfied with the result. I went 14" high, 63" wide and 25" deep, but that is the point. Everyone's preferences are different and customization lets you get the dimensions you want.

As far as the vertical sweet spot goes, I don't know that 22" will be a killer and you might find a safe way to tilt it a little, although that idea makes me nervous. I read of somebody doing it, but I don't think I would be bold enough to try that. I had my 92" set on my old 21" stand for a couple of weeks while I waited for my new one and it wasn't terrible. I just found myself raising-up in my chair periodically to see if a few inches of height would really make a difference and it always did. With the stand a little too high, I could raise-up and see a little additional clarity in the picture as I approached the vertical sweet spot. Again, not a deal breaker, just something to keep in mind.
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Pulled the trigger on the 92840 and my 92840 will be getting delivered this Saturday. Never in a million years thought I would be going with a local store. The only local store to even have it is HGgregg and the sticker price was 5600 a few weeks ago. But they said they would match price with anyone, even online. I didn't believe them. So I went in this weekend, told them Amazon was 4150, Showwed a couple others that were under 4000 if I wanted to deal with them (which I didn't and wouldn't but they didn't need to know that) and told them i had been waiting for the price to go to 4 grand and will continue to wait till it does and what can they offer best price AFTER taxes no BS. I told them i was fully prepared to wait to see what "after-Christmas" prices were going to drop to. They went down to $4055 total which beat Amazon by 100 and that included the tax, so ... oky dokey.

I was thinking about taking DW to see the 92840 in person. HHgreg was the only store here with one onsite. The other is a BB 30 miles away. I hope she gets the same buzz as I have after seeing it in person.

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"You mean to tell me you would go to all that trouble just for an extra inch or two?".... I laughed, at first she didn't get it... LOL

There is a very bad joke hiding right there in plain sight. My wife isn't old enough to remember when cigarettes were marketed as a silly millimeter longer.

Truth is the lower you get it, the better the brightness, the better the color. I am at 15 inches on this stand and I had a discussion with the wife about a custom stand. Yes, we are talking about just a couple inches between friends.. She definitely did not see the point... I want to embellish the joke at this point but it is probably wiser if I refrain.

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There is a very bad joke hiding right there in plain sight. My wife isn't old enough to remember when cigarettes were marketed as a silly millimeter longer.

Truth is the lower you get it, the better the brightness, the better the color. I am at 15 inches on this stand and I had a discussion with the wife about a custom stand. Yes, we are talking about just a couple inches between friends.. She definitely did not see the point... I want to embellish the joke at this point but it is probably wiser if I refrain.

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