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I understood that but it is still half the price of the larger set.

Yes, I'm going to wait at least a couple more years before considering the 92" sets in order for the prices to come down. It's amazing how quickly we get used to the larger ones, huh? I went from the 73 to the 82 in December and now I can't imagine watching something smaller.

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damnit, the case gets stronger for me.... I just measured the custom furniture I had made last year.
I originally built it to set my 63 Samsung and my Paradigm S4s on... it is literally the exact size for the 82-inch set and I can put the S4s back on their stands.

Curse you Mitsubishi with tempting me....
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Yes, I'm going to wait at least a couple more years before considering the 92" sets in order for the prices to come down. It's amazing how quickly we get used to the larger ones, huh? I went from the 73 to the 82 in December and now I can't imagine watching something smaller.

You're not kidding. I went from a 56" Samsung to a 73" Mits and there was amazement for a few hours but I got use to it real quick. At the time I was waiting for 65" and 70"+ flat panels announce back at CES of that year that either never showed (especially Vizio's ultra-wide which seems to now be real this year) or where released toward the end of the year. Afterward, I really didn't want anything smaller than 70".

Anyway, now I've got the 92" and I got use to it very quickly. Only larger option after this is to go front projector. Although it's going to be interesting to see how large OLED displays can get in the next 3 to 4 years. Until then, I'm just going to enjoy the 92".
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Wow. Great deal. Just ensure there aren't any cosmetic issues. I would also schedule a calibration. I was offered a similar deal if I buy my sound system there too.

Thanks guys, I think I'm going to go ahead and get it.
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We are trying to figure out an issue with the 73640's and I'd like to see if any one with the 740/840 has the same issue.

Here is a video showing the problem, this is a minor example, a shot from Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, its right around the 9 min. mark. Look at the weird shimmering in the coats of the soldiers compared to no shimmering on the horrible screen door-ed plasma. Also look at the edges of their coats, especially around the elbows. Edge Enhancement is turned off, sharpness at 0, picture set to ADV1.

http://youtu.be/TAsxm3LJDzQ?hd=1

If you go over to the 640 thread you will see many other examples some much much worse.
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Looks like what I was talking about in my post #752 in this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post21215317

My 73740 appears to have some form of edge "enhancement" that is not controlled by any of the user menus. It is my only complaint with the set. This "feature" seems to improve picture quality on SD and HD from my DishNet receiver, but does harm to some of my Blu-Rays.
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Do I need to buy an emitter if I buy the 3ACTIVE Mitsubishi-Compatible 3D Glasses from Dimensional Optics?

According to the spec sheet, my 73840 already has an internal emitter. Does the internal emitter work with these glasses?
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And another question. My receiver is a few years old (Sony STR-DA3300ES) and is HDMI 1.3a compliant.

If I buy a 3D blu-ray player, will I be able to run the signal through the receiver, or will I need to get an HDMI splitter and run the signal from the player to both the TV (for video) and the receiver (for audio)?
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If the Dimensional glasses are made for the emitter that Mitsubishi supplied with their 3D Starter Kit then they are not compatible with the internal IR emitter in the current models. If the Dimensional glasses are listed as compatible only with Samsung and Mitsubsihi then they are for the separate emitter. But if they are listed as compatible with Panasonic, that setting is compatible with internal emitter in the current models.

Mitsubishi does supply a emitter connection on the back to use a different emitter if you so choose. You are not limited to the internal emitter.

As for your AV Receiver, the "general rule of thumb" is you need an AV receiver that actually lists support for 3D. The reason is if the receiver does not list support for 3D, the blu-ray player will not send a 3D signal via the AV Receiver. Also the part of the HDMI signal where the audio is located is different in 3D signals than in 2D signals so an AV Receiver that does not support 3D cannot find the audio in the 3D signal. No HDMI 1.3a AV Receivers offically support 3D. However there are always weired exceptions to every rule. For instance, a Panasonic Blu-ray player can convert to checkerboard and place the audio in a normal position and then can be used with a older AV Receiver (the TV's automatic 3D mode would not work, only the manual 3D mode). Some AV Receiver can be set to a 100 percent pass-thru and the Blu-ray player thinks it is connected only to the TV and will send 3D however the AV Receiver would not get audio. Again weird exceptions.
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I have visited this 92" TV at the local American TV store a few times. It is quite impressive and may be a future purchase of mine. The new 70" Sharp Elite has a better picture quality, but 70 inches is no where close to what a 92" screen offers.
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I have visited this 92" TV at the local American TV store a few times. It is quite impressive and may be a future purchase of mine. The new 70" Sharp Elite has a better picture quality, but 70 inches is no where close to what a 92" screen offers.

The 70" Elite is twice the price on the street. Really, this about the room it is going to be viewed and your usage. If you are going to be watching at high ambient light levels even without reflcetions issues the 92" is going to washout. It is at its best when the lights are low.

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Playing 3D Blu-Ray using a PC, Mitsubishi WD-82740 & NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 video card

Please HELP. I want to use my (Win 7/64-bit/Intel i3) PC to play commercial Blu-Ray 3D DVD disk movies (like Lion King). My PC (which has a Blu-Ray player) is directly connected to my TV (Mitsubishi WD-82740 DLP 3D TV) via a HDMI cable. I have both TMT 5 and PowerDVD 11 programs.
I also have a 3D Blu-ray player which is connected to another port on TV and I have no issue playing Lion King in 3D. I want to return it and just use the PC to play 3D Blu-Ray. The Lion King works fine from the PC but it is only in 2D. The TMT5/PowerDVD have options for automatic/side-by-side/up-down for 3D contents but I don't see option for frame packing which I heard commercial 3D Blu-Ray use. My TV is a 3D TV (in addition to checkerboard, it can do side-by-side, up-down, and it is compatible with HDMI 1.4). I also ran the TMT utility that checks my hardware/software/TV capabilities for playing 3D and it tells me my system meets all the requirements. PLEASE HELP WHAT am I missing and NEED to do to play 3D?
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Playing 3D Blu-Ray using a PC, Mitsubishi WD-82740 & NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 video card

Please HELP. I want to use my (Win 7/64-bit/Intel i3) PC to play commercial Blu-Ray 3D DVD disk movies (like Lion King). My PC (which has a Blu-Ray player) is directly connected to my TV (Mitsubishi WD-82740 DLP 3D TV) via a HDMI cable. I have both TMT 5 and PowerDVD 11 programs.
I also have a 3D Blu-ray player which is connected to another port on TV and I have no issue playing Lion King in 3D. I want to return it and just use the PC to play 3D Blu-Ray. The Lion King works fine from the PC but it is only in 2D. The TMT5/PowerDVD have options for automatic/side-by-side/up-down for 3D contents but I don't see option for frame packing which I heard commercial 3D Blu-Ray use. My TV is a 3D TV (in addition to checkerboard, it can do side-by-side, up-down, and it is compatible with HDMI 1.4). I also ran the TMT utility that checks my hardware/software/TV capabilities for playing 3D and it tells me my system meets all the requirements. PLEASE HELP WHAT am I missing and NEED to do to play 3D?

You mentioned in another thread you have PowerDVD.. if you have 10 Ultra or later you should be able to manually select checkerboard and then enable 3D in the Mits menu. Of course you have to tell the software player to play in 3D or it will only play 2D.

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I know price talk is not allowed, but check out Tiger Direct's price on the WD-92840 now, and their coupon code ZSO53425 which saves another $700 off.

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I checked Tiger Direct out and applied the coupon. Sure enough, the coupon works. Very interesting...
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And another question. My receiver is a few years old (Sony STR-DA3300ES) and is HDMI 1.3a compliant.

If I buy a 3D blu-ray player, will I be able to run the signal through the receiver, or will I need to get an HDMI splitter and run the signal from the player to both the TV (for video) and the receiver (for audio)?

I just picked up a Panasonic BDT-310 from Amazon's Warehouse deals after finding out it has dual HDMI outputs, so I can run one to the receiver for audio and one to the TV for video. That solves that problem.

Now I just need to do a little more research on glasses and emitters
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I checked Tiger Direct out and applied the coupon. Sure enough, the coupon works. Very interesting...

Ok where do I put this promo code in? I'm at the checkout screen and don't see it anywhere, I've gone back and forth several times now.
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Ok where do I put this promo code in? I'm at the checkout screen and don't see it anywhere, I've gone back and forth several times now.

I couldn't find it either and it also said I didn't qualify for free shipping.

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i couldn't find it either and it also said i didn't qualify for free shipping.

The code is "ZS053425"

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I couldn't find it either and it also said I didn't qualify for free shipping.

I got the coupon code to work after a couple of tries, but $336 in shipping bites.
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Calibrated a 82740 tonight. Turned out great! The only shortcoming was slightly under saturated blue which is normal for Mits. Everything else pretty much spot on. Great pic post calibration.
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Calibrated a 82740 tonight. Turned out great! The only shortcoming was slightly under saturated blue which is normal for Mits. Everything else pretty much spot on. Great pic post calibration.

I suspect just slightly?

With the DUO I found you could get blue saturation very, very close. dEs well under 1.0. One run I saw a dE of .1 on Red and .5 on Blue...

Curious how much light the 82 would put out?

. I see something like 47 ft lambers on the 92 on the last auto-calibration run through. I am slightly over 300 hours now so it is time to do it again.

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Friday cant get here quick enough, goodlord 2 days never seemed so long.

HHGreg really impressed me with their ability to work with me on the 82840 price...1800 tax and everything out the door, just cant beat that...im freaking stoked.

I got to FINALLY FINALLY compare the two since they had the 740 and 840 side by side and for me personally, yea i did notice a difference...im just amazed i got the deal that i did.

I have a sound system but damn that sound bar sounded amazing, not so much for any major bass but everything else sounded fairly crystal clear and quite dynamic.

I got to check out transformers on it, BD of course...simply incredible.

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I got the coupon code to work after a couple of tries, but $336 in shipping bites.

what part of check-out do you put the code in? I have the code but don't see anywhere to enter it in.
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I got to check out transformers on it, BD of course...simply incredible.

Congrats on your new TV, Savatage. Since you have the Transformer's BD, would you mind checking for a defect with it? We found this in 640 series and would like to know if it's in the 840 series.

1. Turn Sharpening to ZERO (0) (or turn EdgeEnhance OFF)
2. Pause during the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
3. Inspect timeline numbers for readability.

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I found a really glaringly obvious example of the red/white issue (and no, I'm not actively looking for it).

In Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. Pause the movie, and a Red-ish bar pops up showing the timeline of the movie. The run-time where you are at is in white. I barely could read it as it was all digitally-blurred, while the numbers on either side of the Red coloring are fine. If I turn the sharpening up to 19 it starts to get better. Sharpening at 30-38, and its 'normal'. Of course, everything else gets the dreaded sharpening effect of white/black halos.


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Hello all,
I've a frequent lurker to this thread as many others and have found very valuable information and advice. Seeing as this is my first post, please forgive me if the etiquette isn't quite up to par. So here is my issue:
I purchased the Mits WD 82740 on December 26, 2011. It was delivered on Jan 11, 2012 in a box without any visible damage or even faint scratches. Upon inspecting the screen after opening the box, again there was no visible damage (not even a fingerprint smudge, etc. from when it was packed). The TV turned on and a great picture appeared, so I signed the delivery reciept as accepted and checked the box off marked as "no damage".
Now having previously owned the Mits WD 65736 and frequenting this forum and others, I knew that geometry could (and usually) is off but can be corrected. In this case the geometry was off when some form of a straight appearing line (door/threshold, banner/box ad, light pole/stop sign pole, football yard lines, etc) was running vertical at both the 4:3 aspect ratio region and half way between that and the center of the viewing area. The center and far edges of the viewing area were straight vertically in the same situations and all horizontal lines appeared fine as well. I had the service manual for my Mits WD 65736 and from this thread read where the service code to get to the manual geometry was the same, so I proceeded to adjust the geometry and got it much better. However, the viewing area between the 4:3 lines and the center (not at the 4:3 or center) still have bowing issues (see first pic).
Scouring the first 20 pages of this thread, I believe a few posters mentioned that the back of the TV seemed to have a concave shape. Those posters also got replies that the concave shape isn't normal and to send it back (again the memeory is fuzzy). My previous Mits WD 65736 had a perfectly flat/straight back and so I am thinking that the issue I am having with the region between the 4:3 lines and the center is due to that concave indenting (see 2-5 pics). I will have an ISF certified calibrator coming out in about a week and half and he said he can address the geometry issues. My concern is due to the concave back, even he will not be able correct it and I will always have that slight but noticeable bowing in that part of the viewing area. Am I just overly concerned at this point? If not, I want to go ahead and start a return/repair process with Mitsubishi (the TV was purchased new at an authorized dealer as listed by Mitsubishi's own website).

Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated!

PS. I hope the pics are okay. When I post and review this I will get better ones or make the attached ones bigger.
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Friday cant get here quick enough, goodlord 2 days never seemed so long.

HHGreg really impressed me with their ability to work with me on the 82840 price...1800 tax and everything out the door, just cant beat that...im freaking stoked.

I got to FINALLY FINALLY compare the two since they had the 740 and 840 side by side and for me personally, yea i did notice a difference...im just amazed i got the deal that i did.

I have a sound system but damn that sound bar sounded amazing, not so much for any major bass but everything else sounded fairly crystal clear and quite dynamic.

I got to check out transformers on it, BD of course...simply incredible.

I am excited for you! I couldn't wait to get mine either. Just as a suggestion, you might want to enjoy your set for a while, and let your lamp stabilize for a few days before looking too hard for any but obvious defects. You are likely to see some minor artifacts anyway while the lamp is fluctuating.
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Hello all,
I've a frequent lurker to this thread as many others and have found very valuable information and advice. Seeing as this is my first post, please forgive me if the etiquette isn't quite up to par. So here is my issue:
I purchased the Mits WD 82740 on December 26, 2011. It was delivered on Jan 11, 2012 in a box without any visible damage or even faint scratches. Upon inspecting the screen after opening the box, again there was no visible damage (not even a fingerprint smudge, etc. from when it was packed). The TV turned on and a great picture appeared, so I signed the delivery reciept as accepted and checked the box off marked as "no damage".
Now having previously owned the Mits WD 65736 and frequenting this forum and others, I knew that geometry could (and usually) is off but can be corrected. In this case the geometry was off when some form of a straight appearing line (door/threshold, banner/box ad, light pole/stop sign pole, football yard lines, etc) was running vertical at both the 4:3 aspect ratio region and half way between that and the center of the viewing area. The center and far edges of the viewing area were straight vertically in the same situations and all horizontal lines appeared fine as well. I had the service manual for my Mits WD 65736 and from this thread read where the service code to get to the manual geometry was the same, so I proceeded to adjust the geometry and got it much better. However, the viewing area between the 4:3 lines and the center (not at the 4:3 or center) still have bowing issues (see first pic).
Scouring the first 20 pages of this thread, I believe a few posters mentioned that the back of the TV seemed to have a concave shape. Those posters also got replies that the concave shape isn't normal and to send it back (again the memeory is fuzzy). My previous Mits WD 65736 had a perfectly flat/straight back and so I am thinking that the issue I am having with the region between the 4:3 lines and the center is due to that concave indenting (see 2-5 pics). I will have an ISF certified calibrator coming out in about a week and half and he said he can address the geometry issues. My concern is due to the concave back, even he will not be able correct it and I will always have that slight but noticeable bowing in that part of the viewing area. Am I just overly concerned at this point? If not, I want to go ahead and start a return/repair process with Mitsubishi (the TV was purchased new at an authorized dealer as listed by Mitsubishi's own website).

Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated!

PS. I hope the pics are okay. When I post and review this I will get better ones or make the attached ones bigger.

I had better let someone else tell you how much bowing is normal--perhaps your calibrator. But I do know that all of these large DLP's exhibit it to some degree. I see it with my 92840 primarily with a guide or something like that. I think I would have to look very closely to see it with a flagpole or some other linear object like that. Because mine is not noticeable during normal viewing, I have chosen to leave geometry correction off, not wishing to add potential artifacts to my picture. Again, I would hope your calibrator would be able to help you determine whether your set falls within a normal range and how best to deal with it.

With respect to the concave, or at least slightly inward curving back, I believe that is normal. The back of my set exhibits that same shape, and I am sure the backs must be prefabricated to a uniform shape, so I would be very surprised to hear that the shape of the back varied and affected the screen geometry. I hope this helps a little.
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2011 Mits DLP owners: upgrade firmware to 13.06 to fix picture quality. More here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post21726833
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Congrats on your new TV, Savatage. Since you have the Transformer's BD, would you mind checking for a defect with it? We found this in 640 series and would like to know if it's in the 840 series.

1. Turn Sharpening to ZERO (0) (or turn EdgeEnhance OFF)
2. Pause during the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
3. Inspect timeline numbers for readability.

Originally reported here:

Yes, please... anyone with access to the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen BD please check for the red/white defect as THHOWL has suggested. Us 640 model owners would really appreciate it!

I plan to get in contact with Mits very soon, I've just been gathering as much info, and as many examples as possible. Everyone who's tested the 640 have found the problem, so it will be very telling if the 740 and/or 840 models do or do not.

You can also check ESPN-HD and see if the logo on the bottom-right of the screen displays this defect. Pretty sure the images I took were from Sportscenter, fwiw.

(with sharpness at 0):


By jpimageshack at 2012-01-22

(With sharpness up at 40ish)


By jpimageshack at 2012-01-22
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