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Old 04-18-2002, 03:11 PM - Thread Starter
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Has anyone had a chance to view any of the LCD RPTV's from Panasonic, Sony or Sharp yet. I read a lot of articles on how nice the Panasonics looked at CES. I always wanted a RPTV to replace my 36" direct view for some time, but I was worried about three things: 1.) I have a lot of windows so I need something with high contrast. 2.) I have a few video game consoles that would be hooked to it and was worried about burn in. 3.) The TV will probably be on about 10 to 12 hours a day. I believe a LCD RPTV would solve a lot of my worries. You also know the exact the pixel resolution with a LCD RPTV (most do the entire 720P format). I realize that LCD models have a lower contrast ration, which is a trade off, but I think the Panny's are 500:1. That is pretty good compared to most computer lab tops (about 300:1). Any thoughts on these new breeds of RPTV's.
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To me, the CES reports made the DLP RPTV's sound more promising than the LCD models, and they would seem to fit your criteria as well.
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The DLP models do look good as well, but the list price of most DLP's is around $10k and the LCD models are anywhere from $3,500 to $7,500.
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One thing you might consider since this TV will be on quite a bit is the screen life, according to a colleague of mine the screen life on the sony lcd rptv is about 3000 hours, or about 3 years at 3 hours/day. He may not know what he's talking about but i would look into it at least. With it on for that long if you really like the LCD's, one of the things to look into also is one of the extended warranty plans, but not like a regular "extend the manufacturers horrible warranty another 2 years." I know circuit city has a four year warranty that would replace the screen if something like that did happen to the LCD, and I don't believe the manufacturers warranty would, but I could be wrong.
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The bulb life on the Sony may be that short. The screen life is likely to be about 10x that -- or much more. Not a factor.

The new DLP sets are expected to start at about $3500-4000 for a 43" set and not much more for a 50" set. They are expected to beginning appearing late this quarter or sometime next quarter. Look for Samsung's models (43 and 50) and Hitachi's (55").

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So what's up with Mitstibishi asking $17,500 for their WD65001 DLP?

Are these guys whacked on peyote or what? They only sold a handful of the WD65000's at retail of $15000.....you'd think they'd learn.
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You might have to replace a bulb after 3000 hours with a LCD or DLP (micromirror) RPTV. (Not verifying that number.) Neither of these display devices can 'burn out', although individual pixels in display panels may fail. Also, the screens, as with other RPTVs, are just sheets of precisely formed, completely inactive, plastic. -- John
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So what's up with Mitstibishi asking $17,500 for their WD65001 DLP?

Are these guys whacked on peyote or what? They only sold a handful of the WD65000's at retail of $15000.....you'd think they'd learn.
Sawyer,

Is the WD65001 Mitsu's new DLP? Damn, I would have thought the price would have dropped too. When are they planning to release it? I assume it's using the second generation DLP chips. Even so, that's a ton on cash!

Thanks!


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I think it indicates they are not sure of their yield numbers yet. So a high price limits the number of units yet allows them to gain experience.

Imagine commiting to 10,000 mass/mid market priced units and all the parts are ordered (ie money spent) just to discover an insurmountable problem.

We've seen this happen to Samsung with the fLCD units and to RCA with infamous L50000 and to JVC with the D'ila RPTV.

I'd say MIT is just being business wise, and its bad news for us looking for a LCoS or DLP unit at a low price. (At least in the near term. Someone will solve the production problems and give us <$5k units)

Go Toshiba!!!

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I saw the Panny model at CES this year. From a distance--WOW! Bright, great colors, etc.

But get close and you quickly realized it wasn't a plasma--detail was sort of washed out, particularly in lighter-colored/brighter areas. Overall, colors didn't seem as "on". Whereas some plasmas look like "pictures" or a window onto a scene, this looked like a polaroid.

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