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Some interesting differences in the 2012 series of Mitsubishi TVs.

There is a 600 series for both the 73 inch and the 82 inch, while in 2011 this was only available for the 73 inch.

There is a 700 series for the 92 inch, while in 2011 the 92 inch only came in the 800 series.

(Note, none of the 800 series listings are out as of this date.)

Also, look at the "C" series. They are NOT 3D models! And there is a "C" series model for both the 82 inch and 73 inch sets. (Last year there was only a "C" series model for the 73 inch and that was a 3D tv and it was essentially the same as the 73640.)

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Walts has some of the new lineup in and I am seeing more popping up. I am really disappointed Mits didn't have the 82" 640 series last year as I would have bought that. I really didn't want all the internet extras so I bought the 73".

Oh well. By the end of summer I am thinking either this model or LaserVue. (Had to scrap the PJ plans as more "structural issues" came about.)

Here is the 82642 from walts:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/1906714..._lwgsi=y&cbt=y

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Walts has some of the new lineup in and I am seeing more popping up. I am really disappointed Mits didn't have the 82" 640 series last year as I would have bought that. I really didn't want all the internet extras so I bought the 73".

Oh well. By the end of summer I am thinking either this model or LaserVue. (Had to scrap the PJ plans as more "structural issues" came about.)

Here is the 82642 from walts:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/1906714..._lwgsi=y&cbt=y

Just noticed that Walt's is showing the 800 models: 73842, 82842 and 92842 even though on the Mits website those models still only show as placeholder pages.
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Just to revive this since I don't see a more logical thread to add to...

Reading the specs for next year models in depth, I noticed besides switching to RF/Bluetooth glasses, they are now using the term Full HD3D.

Does this mean they are abandoning the half resolution thing that they've been doing before now?

I've been eyeing some of last year's cheap Laservues, but I'm starting to wonder if double the 3d resolution and wider standard glasses aren't pretty important.

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Just to revive this since I don't see a more logical thread to add to...

Reading the specs for next year models in depth, I noticed besides switching to RF/Bluetooth glasses, they are now using the term Full HD3D.

Does this mean they are abandoning the half resolution thing that they've been doing before now?

I've been eyeing some of last year's cheap Laservues, but I'm starting to wonder if double the 3d resolution and wider standard glasses aren't pretty important.

They used the term last year, and the year before that, as well. Nothing has changed.

Technically, resolution is measured in lines, and DLPs use 1920 x 1080 lines for each eye to display 3D (even though the checkerboard is made up of half the pixels for each eye, those pixels are arranged in a checkerboard pattern so as to be shown in 1920 x 1080 lines). So they were never half resolution, technically. In contrast, SidebySide is arranged in 960 x 1080 lines per eye and TopnBottom is arranged in 1920 x 540 lines per eye and are by definition, half resolution (entire lines are missing when viewed by either eye).

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Does anybody think they will come out with a 100 inch or more for 2013?
The only stopping point for the size is the standard width of most entry doors which is usually about 36 inches wide, and since my
92840 model is only 25inches at its widest there is plenty of room to grow.

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No, I don't think they will go bigger because even the new 92" when they first come out are at the $5000 price point. A 100 inch or more will be well above that. And at that point, you might as well be investing in a 100"+ screen and
a good quality projector at those prices. And add more depth to the backside, can't say it would be worth it. Mits has a good market on DLP, I would think there is some new, thinner tech for it they are looking into.

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Any bigger and you'd also have to take it out of the box before bringing it in. 92" box width will barely fit through a normal sized front door. It wouldn't fit through my 31.5" wide front door frame.
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Any bigger and you'd also have to take it out of the box before bringing it in. 92" box width will barely fit through a normal sized front door. It wouldn't fit through my 31.5" wide front door frame.


Most standard doors are 36 width anyway
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Yeah but I think 92" are almost that wide in the box, so 100" might go over 36".
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Hi all. I thought this might be the best place to ask this question. I currently own a 2005 Sony SXRD that has had numerous issues and I'm just done with it. I'm intrigued by these Mits 92" models and really want to get one. I watch movies and lots of sports as well as pretty heavy Xbox gaming. My A/V guy wants me to go with an overhead projector. I have plenty od space and distance, etc. but really worried about not getting a superior HD picture. Any thoughts? Thanks
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Still doesn't appear to have HDMI ARC support, so I'm not seeing any useful changes from the x40 to the x42 models. The bluetooth glasses emitter appears to be built in only on the 842 line.

The new LaserVue L75-A96 model should be a more interesting upgrade, though completely out of my price point at $6k MSRP..

My 73640 appears set to hold down the fort for at least another year, then.
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Goal,

It's all about your viewing habits. I moved from a Infocus 7210 DLP projector + 77" screen to a 73" 73640. The move from 720p to 1080p was nice, the move from having fan noise over my head to fan noise I couldn't hear when the program was playing was nice, and the move to be able to actually use the TV during the day without going around and blacking out all the windows on the floor (open design main floor) was nice. And as much as the LG LST-4200A ATSC tuner was great, it was old, and the ATSC tuner in the Mitsu was a great upgrade.

So the move from a "TV" to a projector is more about do you want a theater feel to the look and usage of the environment, or more or a TV in a normal house room look and feel. If it's dedicated light controlled environment where you'll go lights out mostly, I would think projector would give you better screen options. My 73640 definitely has a lot of dimming of the far top and bottom as I stand up / sit down vs my old matte white 1.0 screen. Both are/were fine at large horizontal angles, say off in the kitchen to the side making dinner,, but the Mitsu screen view is more impacted by vertical change than my old projector screen.
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Still doesn't appear to have HDMI ARC support, so I'm not seeing any useful changes from the x40 to the x42 models. The bluetooth glasses emitter appears to be built in only on the 842 line.
The new LaserVue L75-A96 model should be a more interesting upgrade, though completely out of my price point at $6k MSRP..
My 73640 appears set to hold down the fort for at least another year, then.
Disappointed that MITS didn't come out with a new generation of Laservues. I was hoping for at least a new Light Engine and larger sets. There's not enough new features/enhancements, from what has been leaked by the CES, retailers, and Marketing folks, to spend on the A96.

I would of bought if they bumped-up brightness, gamut, and say a larger 82-85" screen, I would be a first to buy.

Oh well, another year to see what's next.

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Does anyone have any comments about the 2D+depth. It looks like one of the new features on the 2012 DLPs.
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Does anyone have any comments about the 2D+depth. It looks like one of the new features on the 2012 DLPs.

Get a Darblet... it creates a more 3d appearance and a better picture by adding depth cues and sharpening foreground objects. People who have tried them love them.

There is a Darblet thread in the Video Processors message are. Cost effective and an overall nice boost to picture quality for any HDTV,

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2D + depth is not a new feature. Basically converts 2d video to 3D. Does an average job. I tried it once on my 92840 just to see how it would look. There is marginal depth added but nothing spectacular.
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I have a concern on my just-delivered 73742. During the setup, I got into the service menu (Menu-2-4-5-7), and it said there was 493 hours on the TV. It had been on for about an hour. Has anyone else checked this on a new TV? Is it just not accurate, or did Amazon send me a refurbished TV??
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I have a concern on my just-delivered 73742. During the setup, I got into the service menu (Menu-2-4-5-7), and it said there was 493 hours on the TV. It had been on for about an hour. Has anyone else checked this on a new TV? Is it just not accurate, or did Amazon send me a refurbished TV??
I didn't think Amazon sold this model directly? It appears that it's being fulfilled by Amazon through Walt's TV. Either way, that's a lot of hours, over 20 days of non-stop use. Has this model even been available that long?

I'm inclined to think the reading is a software bug that might need to be fixed by Mitsubishi, as in it's saying hours but it's really minutes.
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Can anyone else with a 73742 check this? It would be GREATLY appreciated!
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My son's 737 series has about that many hours showing, and it's on its second lamp (should have MANY more hours). He called Mits and they said something along the lines of "the timer is for service personnel only", and that he shouldn't worry about it.
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My son's 737 series has about that many hours showing, and it's on its second lamp (should have MANY more hours). He called Mits and they said something along the lines of "the timer is for service personnel only", and that he shouldn't worry about it.

Interesting. I'm beginning to think that this is just a "bug". 493 hours is about 20 full days of operation. That is a LOT of time for a TV that didn't start hitting the shelves until late April or early May. However, if anyone with a new 73742 can do the old Menu-2-4-7-0 thing (I think I had it wrong before), I would be very appreciative.
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Interesting. I'm beginning to think that this is just a "bug". 493 hours is about 20 full days of operation. That is a LOT of time for a TV that didn't start hitting the shelves until late April or early May. However, if anyone with a new 73742 can do the old Menu-2-4-7-0 thing (I think I had it wrong before), I would be very appreciative.

Well, I changed my mind after hearing from another member here that his new 73742 only had 8 hours showing after he used it for 8 hours. Called Amazon and they are exchanging it for a new one.
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