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post #271 of 1245 Old 11-20-2012, 12:30 PM
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Thanks for the clarification, Gep. I read the model # off the manual.. I'll check the back of the unit itself to see if it was one of those deals where one manual covered several units. The front indicator does say enhanced 7.1, and I recall we had to pick up a seperate amp for the two back speakers.

I know its at least 2 years old, if not 3, so 3d pass through might not be supported. Since there is so little 3d content actually even available, I'm not too concerned about having to switch manually. (And since the sound is SO amazing, I can't see us replacing the AVR for some time to come.

(Although we are actually tinkering a lot with the 3d gaming on the PS3... if anyone gets a new 3d Tv for the holiday season, you HAVE to check out some of the 3d enabled games!)

Zero Tv is a new term I've never seen mentioned before.. I'll have to look into that.

I had to update one of my old dvd players constantly, which is why I asked about the TV... bu tI'll probably check every few months for updates, since everything seems to be working perfectly right now. Since we are not using the smart tv features, i suspect we'll see less of an impact from software updates.
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I would really like to know if anybody has calibrated the 73742 or 83742 and has the settings that would be great! tried to google it to see if there was anything online and havent found anything yet. Getting my 73742 today between 1-5 and wanted to just get a starting point at some of the settings you guys on here have that look good.

Honestly, if you as lucky as we just were with our new 82742, you'll see a killer picture right out of the box. I've made some minor adjustments (brightness and color saturation) to suit our tastes, and I also turned sharpness down about 1/3rd from mid point, but other than those changes, I haven't found a need for any further calibration/adjustment.

I find I make some compensation adjustments based on time of day (bright daylight issues) and also for 3D viewing, but thats pretty much normal behaviour for us.

Probably my only concern is the contrast is maxed, which make sme wonder as the lamp degrades if we'll see max brightness issues.
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Zero TV means NO TV, NONE, zero as in the numeral of nothing. What I mean is there are no TVs at all that support Dolby Digital-TrueHD or DTS-HD.

The contrast setting does not affect the lamp life. The only setting in the TV that does is in the Energy Menu and is the Lamp Energy of Bright and Normal. Bright runs the lamp a higher wattage and can shorten the life of the lamp.

The Picture settings and adjustments do not affect the wattage of the lamp so do not affect the life of the lamp.

Also you will never be able to send 3D Blu-ray through your AV Reciever.
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Understand. contrast up 100% gives me what looks like a brighter image, which is why I wondered about it affecting lamp life. I would think if you selected settings that gave you a brighter overall image that it would degrade lamp life vs a overall darker image. (I read something to that effect elsewhere.)

I did check, and yep, that model # was correct for my receiver, but since we have everything working perfectly, we're happy campers.

In case anyone was curious, the Wii U looks great on the 82742s, however trying to match the screen display to the gamepad is tough. You can get close, but might need the advanced setting menu to really replicate it exactly.
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Understand. contrast up 100% gives me what looks like a brighter image, which is why I wondered about it affecting lamp life. I would think if you selected settings that gave you a brighter overall image that it would degrade lamp life vs a overall darker image. (I read something to that effect elsewhere.)

It all depends on how you increase the brightness. The Contrast setting is simply a processing "perference" that either boosts or lowers the white peak before sending it to the DLP chip. Similar to the Brightness setting in the Picture adjustements simply raises the black or lowers the black point before sending it to the DLP chip. These adjustments adjust the amount of time the DLP chip either reflects light to the screen or to the light abasorber.

The lamp always works at constant wattage and light output (like a light blub) and the DLP chip will either reflect that light to the screen to be seen or to a light absorber to create black. The amount of light the lamp creates is controlled by the Lamp Energy menu - Standard is about 150 watts, Bright is about 180 watts - it is not changed by the picture adjustments.

Other technologies, such as Plasma, where you see the actual light emitting aspect (glowing phosphors in the case of Plasma) work in a different way so there the contrast setting may affect the life of the glowing phosphors. High contrast may make the phosphors glow at a higher rate so shorten the life of the phosphors.
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After getting used to the DLP, I'm finding I'm less impressed with our old plasma. The picture on the new DLP just looks so much smoother in comparison to both led and plasma sets.
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Hey Gareee, Thanks for the suggestion on the PS3 glasses. It is definitely a huge improvement over the DLP Link ones smile.gif
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Hey Gareee, Thanks for the suggestion on the PS3 glasses. It is definitely a huge improvement over the DLP Link ones smile.gif

My Pleasure! Try some of the 2d+ stuff.. its actually quite good, even on games.

BTW, do you use Universal Media Server on your ps3? Its what I use for all our media streaming needs, and there are plenty of usenet posts with 3d content, but 1080p and 3D can be a BIG file. I think the extended LOTR movies are like 22 gb EACH!
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Got my 73742 yesterday after my 65738 crapped out and I was a little dissapointed, They new models dont have the smooth 120 option which isnt that big of a deal but the picture feature I loved about my 738 was the edge enhance this improved the picture greatly and sad to find its not on my 73742!! Why did they do away with this feature? it made the picture so much sharper and gave everything a ton more detail. Anybody have any insight on why its not on the new models or if it is on other new models just not the 742? I finally got the picture adjusted to where its close to my 738 but its probably an 8 out of 10 on picture where my 738 was an 11 out of 10. also sombody asked me if there was a big differnce going from 65 to 73 there is at first but after watching it a while it doesnt seem that way now I should have sprung for the 82 I thought it would be to big but nope I made the wrong choice could have went bigger.
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My Pleasure! Try some of the 2d+ stuff.. its actually quite good, even on games.
BTW, do you use Universal Media Server on your ps3? Its what I use for all our media streaming needs, and there are plenty of usenet posts with 3d content, but 1080p and 3D can be a BIG file. I think the extended LOTR movies are like 22 gb EACH!

I have an HTPC hooked up to the TV so I don't need to stream things through the PS3. Haven't tried 3D from the HTPC yet so will see if I can get that working.
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After getting used to the DLP, I'm finding I'm less impressed with our old plasma. The picture on the new DLP just looks so much smoother in comparison to both led and plasma sets.

l feel the exact same way about the plasma I bought for the bedroom. Now it is a fight to use the 92".

Mitsubishi WD-92842, Onkyo HT-S9400THX, Oppo BDP-93, XBOX 360 w/Kinect, XBOX (modded), WD My Book Essential, FiOS Bundle
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I want to buy a 82", it will fit well in my space, see picture below. I will have to move my speakers and subs out a little, but it fits for sure. This is a dedicated Home theater that currently has a 60" Sharp, it is used for Movies with the kids and Sports, no intention of Gaming. I will not be using the sound form the TV at all, I have 2 questions please. Just so you aware I have a Denon 4311, Oppo BDP-93, Comcast Cable, and Chase Home Theater Speakers/Amp. My first row is about 9 feet away. The room is not as bright as the picture shows, it has 3 sky-lights, one window behind the TV that will has a shade. Sorry about the poor cell phone pics.

1. Any reason to get the 742 over the 642, I intend to try 3d for the first time, but honestly I can care less about streaming, bluetooth, ect.

2. I do not have extra room beyond the 74" or so width of the TV, is there a Stand that matches this TV that is the same width that yo may have and like?

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I'm pretty sure one of the features of the 742 is IR for 3d glasses built in instead of buying an adapter for an extra $100.

I know I saw a chart comparing features between systems, and I kow there were other additions. smartv is only good if you need ppv tv.
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I'm pretty sure one of the features of the 742 is IR for 3d glasses built in instead of buying an adapter for an extra $100.
I know I saw a chart comparing features between systems, and I kow there were other additions. smartv is only good if you need ppv tv.

If that is the case the 742 is only $50 more at Pauls so I would go for that.

Any Black Friday Deals I should be aware of or is $1649 at Pauls for the 742 a good enough deal?

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Paul's price is even lower, now.$1149 


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Paul's price is even lower, now.$1149 

I am looking at the 82742, it is $1649

Still seems like a great deal
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Older models are cheaper, but I wanted the latest/fgreatest tech wise. I hadn't seen anything loser than $1649, and I wanted to use palpayl's 6 month financing on bill me later. if I recall, I could not do that on Paul's, only Walt's. We've already paid off half the tv in 2 weeks, but I wanted the extra finanicing wiggle room just in case.
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I just ordered the 82742 from Pauls, I have not owned a 3D TV prior.

I want to order 6 pairs of glasses, any suggestions???

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Yep.. get the PS3 3d glasses.. I didn't see any cheaper at all on black friday, so they are about $30 a pair, and they recharge. (And they are bth comfortable and durable!)

The 82742 had the ir built in, and the playstation glasses will also perfectly with it, and with some of the 3d game enhancements for the ps3 require specifically the playstation brand 3d glasses.
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Best Buy has ps3 glasses for 19.99. Are they the ones you're talking about? Amazon has ps3 glasses for 41.90. Do you think they are same (model numbers are not listed on either site)?
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I have the wd 73742 may I use it as the monitor for my iMac?
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I have this stand for my 65" DLP. Will it hold a 82"? How about 92"?

Pinnacle TR651 DLP Stand

http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/pinnacle-tr651-57-73-black-plasma-lcd-dlp-stand-reviews
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Best Buy has ps3 glasses for 19.99. Are they the ones you're talking about? Amazon has ps3 glasses for 41.90. Do you think they are same (model numbers are not listed on either site)?

There only is one model of ps3 3d glasses, so that has to be them.
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Just been skimmin through this thread on the 2012 series... trying to replace old 65738 that I love with a 82" and just saw Frys has it for $1399 ( WD-82742) today but saw a post where Pauls had it for $1149? Was that correct?

I was going to call Pauls and ask them to price match Frys so there would be no tax and get free shipping but was wondering if I should hold out if they had it lower than 1399 already???
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The best price I've seen on it anywhere is $1645, which is Paul's
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Just bought a 73642 and now I am looking for a IR emitter. Was wondering if anybody has had any experience with either of the two that I see on Amazon.

High Power 3D IR Emitter for Mitsubishi - http://www.amazon.com/Power-Emitter-Mitsubishi-Samsung-Ready/dp/B005CWID0A/ref=cm_cd_dp_post_dp?_encoding=UTF8&cdPage=1&newContentID=Tx10ZWHYOZJKV54&noLL=1#CustomerDiscussions

Dimensional Optics 3ACTIVE IR Emitter - http://www.amazon.com/Dimensional-3ACTIVE-Emitter-Compatible-Mitsubishi/dp/B005M3BIMO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1353770737&sr=1-1&keywords=3d+ir+emitter

I searched the thread but couldn't find any info on either one of these. I also ordered some Sony PS3 glasses and was hoping one of these emitters would work with these glasses.

Any info would be appreciated.
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As long as you get an ir emitter that works, the glasses will most likely be fine.

Since our set came with an Ir emitter, I can't offer any advice about that. Maybe someone else here can help ya with that one!
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I have an 82742 and use the Monstervision/OPTOMA RF glasses. You can adjust the delay and duty cycle and work very well, PQ is excellent (at a significantly reduced constract ratio of course), once you calibrate with a meter, I also have an older 65", and tried almost every brand of DLP link glasses made, they either had a green tint, or rainbow effect (polarization not DLP, look at a white screen in 3d), the best were the REALD Crystal eyes 5, which had neither and great contrast, but they're not available anymore. The added benefit of the RF is that line of sight isn't needed.
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Just upgraded from a WD-73831 to a WD-82742.
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No brainer on the warranty: http://www.costco.com/3-Years-(For-TVs-Over-%241%2c000).product.11680336.html

$99 for a total of 5 years, and I verified that for $5 more, you can get full coverage even without a Costco card.

Will be trying out some rechargeable OKBA universal glasses with the built-in ir 3D-they were cheap and get decent reviews.

A hair over $1,600 through Amazon and Paul's, 2 hours of doing the geometry and video settings,and everything is fantastic via Onkyo receiver and 7.2 setup.

Now have this baby in Liv Room and the 73" in family room/kitchen with my "old" Onkyo 7.2 setup, and the place looks like a multi-plex.smile.gif

Just thought I would pass along the tip on the warranty, and I would appreciate any tips you all might have for me.
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Just upgraded from a WD-73831 to a WD-82742.
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No brainer on the warranty: http://www.costco.com/3-Years-(For-TVs-Over-%241%2c000).product.11680336.html
$99 for a total of 5 years, and I verified that for $5 more, you can get full coverage even without a Costco card.
Will be trying out some rechargeable OKBA universal glasses with the built-in ir 3D-they were cheap and get decent reviews.
A hair over $1,600 through Amazon and Paul's, 2 hours of doing the geometry and video settings,and everything is fantastic via Onkyo receiver and 7.2 setup.
Now have this baby in Liv Room and the 73" in family room/kitchen with my "old" Onkyo 7.2 setup, and the place looks like a multi-plex.smile.gif
Just thought I would pass along the tip on the warranty, and I would appreciate any tips you all might have for me.
Congratulations on the new TV. That warranty is a good deal but the way they present it is confusing. The way it works is if you buy your TV from Costco you get one year manufacturer coverage followed by one year Costco Concierge coverage, then the 3 year Square Trade for a total of five years. If you buy your TV somewhere else, you don't get the Costco Concierge coverage for that second year. Instead Square Trade takes over after the first year manufacturer warranty runs out for a total of 4 years. I double checked it at Costco, then it was confirmed when I signed up at Square Trade and checked the expiration date of my warranty. Anyway it's still a great deal.

I was told by a Discover Card representative that they extend warranties an extra year. That's the card I used for mine. I guess if I have trouble in the 5th year, I'll have to check that out.
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2 hours of doing the geometry and video settings

Is there some faq or instructions somewhere for doing this properly? I downloaded the calibration videos, but have never owned a tv like this before that had these adjustments.

I do get one free home visit HDTV calibration from best buy because of their plat club benefits, but I'm hesitant to let someone mess around with our 82742, and kind of prefer to do that myself if possible. (You never know if someone is actually trained in doing things like this at big box stores, or if they are just winging it.)
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