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I have to say with the economy the way it is, I haven't bought anything expensive with discretionary funds since late 2008. So my GWIII is still on primary duty. It's on it's third bulb (my wife has it on almost all day every day).

I may finally hook up a Blu-Ray DVD player though. Any issues with Blu-Ray and this TV?

'Course, now the rage is the upcoming 3D Blu-Ray. Would a new Blu-Ray be obsolete in 6 months? Sigh.

By a PS3. The same cost as a good BR player and sony is releasing a 3d firmware update soon. Sony has been pretty good about supporting the PS3 so I just keep hoping they continue that trend in the future.

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Well, I finally had to replace the lamp driver in my KF60XBR800, which was purchased in Jan 2003. The new driver block works very well and my picture seems brighter than it has for a couple of years. The lamp clock indicated some 14440 hours. Does anyone know how to repair an old lamp driver (P/N 146851015)?
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In the past month mine has turned itself off. It wasn't on all that long, an hour, two at the most, when it happened.

Other than that it is working fine.
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Well, I guess it was inevitable that parts would begin to die ... today the G board died (standby light blinks 6 times), so I've got the part coming in later this week and will attempt the repair myself (KF-60XBR800).
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Well, I guess it was inevitable that parts would begin to die ... today the G board died (standby light blinks 6 times), so I've got the part coming in later this week and will attempt the repair myself (KF-60XBR800).

I seem to recall you replaced the OB yourself--has your set burned alot of hours or are you just unlucky? Where'd you buy the replacement part?

Good luck and let us know how it goes. My 6 yr-old set is still going strong (knock on wood) but I think the run hours are still only a couple/three thousand or some such...
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Good memory laserfan ... Well, I've had the Tv since 2002, set pretty much runs several hours a day - I haven't done a very good job of keeping track of the hours and have reset the count every time I've changed the lamp (3 times maybe, not sure).

In 2005 we moved to a newly constructed home and immediately had serious electrical issues in the house, frequent outages, devices stopped working etc, and eventually they ran all new electrical to that part of the house. One of the devices that stopped working was the Tv, requiring the lamp driver board to be replaced - coincidence, infant mortality, or tied to the electrical issues, not sure - and if the electrical issues was the cause, what else was harmed but didn't fail until much later? again not sure. Zoom ahead to 2008, no issues since 2005, and we have the arrival of the green blob and yes, I purchased and changed out the wonderfully expensive OB - risky but I took the chance to extend the life rather than replace with a comparably capable $3000-4000 new set. So now, I am intermittently getting the 6 blinking standby lights which indicates a bad "G" board, which I've ordered and it will arrive tomorrow so I'll swap it out over the next day or two - this one's a very easy R&R. Take the back off, disconnect a couple connectors slide the tray out, and pull the old board out, drop in the new - it's like a PC in this respect, changing out a graphics card or something like that. The OB was much more of an ordeal but still not rocket science.

Oh, the "G" board was bought directly from Sony parts and accessories, i located the part number from the service manual I got a couple years ago, cost around $120 I think.

When the new XBRLX900 comes down in price I plan to get it and move my ol' semi-faithful to the upstairs if its still firing by then :-)
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Good memory laserfan ...

Actually no, but yours has been the only good "action" in this thread over the last many months.
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move my ol' semi-faithful to the upstairs if its still firing

We don't even have another room that's big enough to hold the thing! Can't imagine how I'm gonna recycle it when it dies!

Yours sounds "used & abused" compared to mine which doesn't even get turned-on once a week. Then too it's been on a AVR/UPS (along w/a TiVo S3 et al)--hopefully it will crank for many more years. I do want to pull the back off'n it one of these weeks to see if there's any dust accumulation...with my previous (Sony CRT-based) RPTV the mirrors got dusty and caused the images to "fuzz-out" over time.

Let us know if you are able to restore yours to its "original lustre".
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More I think of it, the Tv probably gets 4+ hours every morning, a similar amount every evening.

Well, success ! at least so far. The "G" board arrived today, was bigger than I remembered, and had many more connectors than I remembered, around 15 I think. Anyway, the biggest trouble was just getting the TV disconnected, pulled back to get access, etc. After the back was removed, there's a tray with several boards on it, and the "G" board was conveniently on the end, right hand side, making it even easier to R&R. I drew a sketch of what went where and connector orientation, etc. 3 screws held it in place, vertically standing in the tray, and it was out. The new board had a new connector that I had no wire for so I just ignored it. Put it all back together, went into the service menu and cleared the diagnostic code (that always get generated when you get a fault that makes the standby lights blink) so that I could go back in there later to see if any codes were tripped and not be confused by this one that is now repaired. Started it up and all is ok, so far.

Only concern you have with these things is wondering if something else drove this board to die and now that there's a new board in there, it will repeat, or was Sony's diagnostic good enough to tell me this board alone was at fault so I'm fine now? Time will tell.

Some pic's attached showing the board in place on the tray so you can see the connectors, most aligned along the edge a couple elsewhere, and then the old and new board next to each other, new on the right, essentially identical.
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...many more connectors than I remembered, around 15 I think....The new board had a new connector that I had no wire for so I just ignored it.

I can't read the board rev # but presumably it is different, huh. Is there anything about the old board that suggests where the failure was (sometimes you get lucky and something's burned or a cap has ballooned)?

You're a brave man, we wish you success with your repair! And thanks for the photos!
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I looked and looked and could find nothing that looked like a rev number, and every number I did see was identical on both boards. Also could not locate any obvious signs of any blown board components on the old one.

Worked ok all day to day so that's better than the last several days - a good sign I'm got it licked.
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When the new XBRLX900 comes down in price I plan to get it and move my ol' semi-faithful to the upstairs if its still firing by then :-)

Mine finally got moved upstairs to the bedroom. Replaced with a Mitsu 737. The wife LOVES having the Sony for the bedroom. Probably need to get around to replacing the bulb though....

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Not sure if anyone still follows these old beast, but just checked my hours the other day, just under 13,500 and on the second bulb. The set is slowing dying....green / yellow tint around the entire screen. Talked with Sony and am getting in on that replacement deal they have. Not as great a deal as others, but still ok I suppose.

Sucks to see a $4200 TV bite the dust. What to do with it?? Also have a KDF-50A10 and with about 8300 hours, no problems.....yet.
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What sort of replacement deal are they offering?

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Not sure if anyone still follows these old beast, but just checked my hours the other day, just under 13,500 and on the second bulb. The set is slowing dying....green / yellow tint around the entire screen. Talked with Sony and am getting in on that replacement deal they have. Not as great a deal as others, but still ok I suppose.

Sucks to see a $4200 TV bite the dust. What to do with it?? Also have a KDF-50A10 and with about 8300 hours, no problems.....yet.
I am also trying to get some "consideration" as I have the "blue blob" optical block problem but so far Sony says it's my problem. Who have you contacted and what sort of offer do you have from them?
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Talking with them about a 60EX500 LCD. Deal isn't done yet, but you can contact

National Service Support

Customer Service Specialist

800 554-6908, option 2

I don't think they have our sets in there system yet, that's why I am stilling waiting. Since these are older, they might need to make a special exception for them.
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Search some of the forums here, there is lots of talk about the program and some of the deals people are getting. I've seen some very good deals on new LCD sets. I demoed the new XBR LCD with 3D and its got a great picture....but $4000+ is a bit much at this point.
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Search some of the forums here, there is lots of talk about the program and some of the deals people are getting. I've seen some very good deals on new LCD sets. I demoed the new XBR LCD with 3D and its got a great picture....but $4000+ is a bit much at this point.

Thanks for your update. After two phone calls I made prior to my previous posting I have sent an e-mail to Sarah at sonylistens and have yet to get a reply. Please keep us posted on how your case turns out. I also dropped over 4K on my GWII and if Sony doesn't offer any help it may bring the end to future purchases with them which in the past has been extensive over the previous 40 years. With big price drops in plasmas I am thinking at least 60 inch or bigger sets and getting two of them having one on top of the other and I doubt if I will be out much more than the cost of the GWII.
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Got the 60EX500 for $1075 + tax from Sony. Hopefully its a decent set and will last a long time. Maybe these sets today aren't ment to last more than a few years. We are a disposable society after all......
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Other people with newer sets seem to get better deals. I have a friend who owns a 60" A3000 SXRD unit. Great set with a great picture. I told him about the situation and if his dies he might be able to get in on the deal. I was considering replacing the GW with one of these, but in time they to shall fail.....
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Got the 60EX500 for $1075 + tax from Sony. Hopefully its a decent set and will last a long time. Maybe these sets today aren't ment to last more than a few years. We are a disposable society after all......

Thanks again for your update. After two unrewarding phone calls to their 800 number in early December and receiving no reply to a 12/14/2010 e-mail to Sarah at sonylistens@am.sony.com I sent another e-mail to that address today. Hope I get a relpy! How long did it take you from your 1st complaint to finally resolving your case?
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Sony did get back to me yesterday and offered me a KDL52nx800 for $1199.00 plus tax. I was considering a 60 inch model but they would not offer me one. Considering the age of my TV and its close in size to the NX800, I am content with Sony's offer and will accept their offer for the new set.
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Anyone get their optical block repaired on these?? I might try and fix this beast up for use down the road.....

Amazing how much better the new sets are compared to these. I really got used to the "soft" image of this set. They are better than the new 1080p sets with SD material, not upconverting crappy signals to 1080p.
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My original 9 YO GWII still seems to be going strong. I'm on my 3rd bulb and 2nd remote but no blobs, streaks, lines or dead pixels yet. I'm looking for an excuse to upgrade to a 60 inch LED-LCD but the beast won't die.
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My original 9 YO GWII still seems to be going strong. I'm on my 3rd bulb and 2nd remote but no blobs, streaks, lines or dead pixels yet. I'm looking for an excuse to upgrade to a 60 inch LED-LCD but the beast won't die.

Same here. I've had mine since March 2003, with heavy use.
It's been a very good TV so far.
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My KF60XBR800 has developed blue blobs and being that it's 8 years old I decided to retire it in favor of a new 60" Panasonic plasma. I am satified with getting 8 years out of it but I am somewhat disappointed with the history of problems with the optical blocks in the Sony products. That's why I didn't bother looking at Sony LCD or plasma TV's . . it's just my way of protesting, I guess.

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I wonder MJ (and any others here) how your "retired" your GWII. Yours was busted so maybe you "traded it in"?

A few posts earlier someone called this set a "beast" and it is these days isn't it. I'm thinking that when I decide to get rid of mine (about 8 yrs old but less use than most and still looks pristine) that I would try to find a place to donate it e.g. an assisted living/nursing/old folks place or church or community center perhaps.
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I bought my new plasma from Best Buy and they took away the GW II for free. They will transport it to a recycling company.

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I am trying to make this TV as light as possible to lift and remove it. I have the Service Manual, but before I consider disassembling it, I was wondering:

What order I should follow? (starting with the heaviest parts)

About how light could I make the TV (50" GWII)?

It also says the panel can be disconnected from the pedestal, but I couldn't do that until I got the TV off of the credenza.
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So now, I am intermittently getting the 6 blinking standby lights which indicates a bad "G" board, which I've ordered and it will arrive tomorrow so I'll swap it out over the next day or two - this one's a very easy R&R. Take the back off, disconnect a couple connectors slide the tray out, and pull the old board out, drop in the new - it's like a PC in this respect, changing out a graphics card or something like that. The OB was much more of an ordeal but still not rocket science.

Oh, the "G" board was bought directly from Sony parts and accessories, i located the part number from the service manual I got a couple years ago, cost around $120 I think. ...

Do you have the the part number for the "G" board? My 60XBRB800 now has the 6 blinking standby light problem and the "Sony Listens" email team responded that this TV isn't covered by any replacement program.

Also, is it easy enough to change the "G" board without having a service manual handy to reference?
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