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[b]TVGuide has essentially been working for me-to a point. After I reset my TV(including the guide) & after a few days TVguide works great, however, a few days after that,when TVguide is starting to download color coded shows & the multiple icons it can display, is when it starts to act up. It almost acts like there is too much info for the guide to handle(not enough memory, perhaps?)-its extremely slow getting the guide to come on & some times it wont turn on at all & I have to hit the reset button.B]

tboo the reset button is on the side of the tv in that little compartment correct? What is the correct steps to reset the tv? I tried pressing the button and then the tv cycles off and back on again but It didn't reset my info...

Any help would be great as I to would love to get my guide to work so I can enjoy my symbio.
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Has anyone carefully setup and tested the LG DVB418 upconverting DVD player?

I know it's not seen too good at another thread here, but it may be just about setting it up correctly.
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tboo the reset button is on the side of the tv in that little compartment correct? What is the correct steps to reset the tv? I tried pressing the button and then the tv cycles off and back on again but It didn't reset my info...

Any help would be great as I to would love to get my guide to work so I can enjoy my symbio.

Yes the reset button is on the side of the TV-it just resets the TV when it locks up but you wont lose your settings. A system setting reset can be done in the installation menu-this resets everything including TVguide
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Has anyone carefully setup and tested the LG DVB418 upconverting DVD player?

I know it's not seen too good at another thread here, but it may be just about setting it up correctly.

There are a few price classes of up-conversion DVD:

Below $200: the LG is better than Toshiba and Samsung 841
Below $300: the Panasonic, Samsung 941 and Sony are very close. I choose Panasonic because it has a lot of adjustment (such as brightness, contrast, sharpness, auto zoom and so on) and it has the least ghosting effect via HDMI (I increase the sharpness on the DVD and decrease the sharpness on the TV). The Samsung 941 is pretty good too, but it generates more noticeable ghosting on fixed DVD menus.

The LG and Samsung support more disk formats.
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Anyone have any experience with the Toshiba 52HMX84 and the Sony NS975 DVD connected via HDMI?
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ok, sorry for the super super late reply to this but I've been pretty sick. I finally got to my local ABC Warehouse and got a price on the 62" set. the price was terrible. I was given the price of 3850.00 for the tv and 250.00 for the stand if I purchased them both at the same time. and to put icing on the cake, if I wanted to buy 2 they'll even knock an extra 100.00 off on each set. woohoo!!! does anyone want to go in on 2 with me?

yeah right.
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One thing the manual doesn't answer, and I've gotten conlicting answers form Toshiba about is - can you watch some thing that has been previously recorded while it records something else?
The TACP web guys answered no, the guy at CES (who didn't really even know how to operate the product) said yes, then when he couldn't make it happen said some gobbledygook about you can watch an SD while it records a HD program.
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You could theoretically pass two Firewire data streams in opposite directions at the same time over a single Firewire link.. you'd need to have TWO separate devices on a daisy chain though - a recorder can NOT simultaneously play & record,.. but if they were separate physical devices it could work. Or the 'gobbledy-gook' about SDTV... what it really means is that you can record one thing while watching an independant source, like the SD tuner or a Component input.

Just so you understand, the Firewire output is only for the internal digital tuner stream - video from the SD tuner or external input will NOT be digitized & compressed for recording.
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There's a simple solution. It's called Comcast and the Motorola DCT6412.
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There are a few price classes of up-conversion DVD:

Below $200: the LG is better than Toshiba and Samsung 841
Below $300: the Panasonic, Samsung 941 and Sony are very close. The Samsung 941 is pretty good too, but it generates more noticeable ghosting on fixed DVD menus. The LG and Samsung support more disk formats.

Does that mean that the LG produces ghosting too?

Apparently there's no upconverting DVD player that works flawlessly with our DLPs huh.
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Does that mean that the LG produces ghosting too?

Apparently there's no upconverting DVD player that works flawlessly with our DLPs huh.


I have no problem with my Denon 2910 on my 52hmx94
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Does that mean that the LG produces ghosting too?

I think the "ghosting" problems were limited to a small number of people and mainly the XXHM84 and XXHMX84 sets. Most of them were also using a DVI>HDMI cable from a satellite or dish STB. There may be a couple of people that reported problems on a HDMI>HDMI connected DVD player but I know I've read about more that have been getting great picture and results with this type of connection. I would focus on getting a good DVD player and not worry about ghosting. I wouldn't put the Samsung HD941 in the same class as the Sony and Panasonic. It has problems with "green flashes" that may not be corrected with firmware and does not give good PQ if using 720p. In addition, the previous models HD841 and HD931 have issues as well and do not get good reviews. There have been problems with "tray locking" on the Sony so it might be a gamble but the PQ rivals the Panasonic and doesn't use the Faroudja deinterlacer so doesn't suffer from macroblocking like the Panasonic and the others mentioned. Newer firmware has reduced the problem according to some users. Your best bet is to peruse the threads on the different players and then test them on your set as YMMV.
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There's a simple solution. It's called Comcast and the Motorola DCT6412.

Got to agree with you 100%.
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Got to agree with you 100%.

I contemplated purchasing the Symbio recorder but considering Comcast rents the DCT6412 for $10 a month it would take almost 4 years to jutify the cost and by then there will probably be better and less expensive options.
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ok, sorry for the super super late reply to this but I've been pretty sick. I finally got to my local ABC Warehouse and got a price on the 62" set. the price was terrible. I was given the price of 3850.00 for the tv and 250.00 for the stand if I purchased them both at the same time. and to put icing on the cake, if I wanted to buy 2 they'll even knock an extra 100.00 off on each set. woohoo!!! does anyone want to go in on 2 with me?

yeah right.

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does anyone know what the box dimensions are for the 46hm84? i'm trying to figure out if i could fit the box in a friend's suv. i ordered a set from costco, but it is taking an painfully long time to arrive (originally ordered 1/25, picked up by trucking company from miami on 2/2, left ohio on 2/7, arrives in northern cali ???). if the tv arrives at the local depot on friday, i'm thinking i'll try and pick it up myself rather than waiting until next week for the slow poke trucking company to deliver the set. thanks for your help.
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Not sure about the box but you can get the unit dimensions on page 61 of the manual.

http://tacpservice.toshiba.com/Consu..._52_62HM84.pdf
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Originally posted by tboo
I have no problem with my Denon 2910 on my 52hmx94

No problems at all? Is there a difference watching DVDs at 720p over the HDMI instead of component?

How much did it cost?

Has anyone tested the LG on the Toshibas?

You know, I asked Toshiba why they didn't have a 720p DVD player that worked perfectly with their DLPs. I don't know if this was an honest answer, but You know what was it?

They have not considered manufacturing a fully compatible player with their DLPs. Unbelievable huh?

I told them they had to do player that worked perfectly with their DLPs, and then modified it to work with others. That way "us DLP owners" would be happy...even if the unit costs a bit more than the current one.

Time will tell if they heard. Summertime that is, if they don't make it I'm getting the one that best matches our DLP's performance and hide in the trenches until the HD war passes.
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I am using the LG 7832NXC with components and DVI-->HDMI.

Some movies are nicer with components and some with HDMI.

No problems at all with the HDMI connection with the LG. Only the slight Ghosting like every other XXHM84 model out there....
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I am using the LG 7832NXC with components and DVI-->HDMI.

Some movies are nicer with components and some with HDMI.

No problems at all with the HDMI connection with the LG. Only the slight Ghosting like every other XXHM84 model out there....

Hey, which is that unit? I haven't check.
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Not sure about the box but you can get the unit dimensions on page 61 of the manual.

http://tacpservice.toshiba.com/Consu..._52_62HM84.pdf

thanks kdog, but i was hoping to get the dimensions for the actual box that the 46hm84 ships in. not sure whether it will fit in my friend's suv.
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If you live in an area with an American Furniture & Electronics in it, they are having the Family & Friends sale 2/10 - 2/13. The salesman told me that the 62HMX94 would be selling for close to $1000.00 under MSRP. I'll be there right when they open on 2/10. I have been researching for 18 months. Finally ready to buy. Has anyone on this post had ghosting or lag issues with the 94's?
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If you live in an area with an American Furniture & Electronics in it, they are having the Family & Friends sale 2/10 - 2/13. The salesman told me that the 62HMX94 would be selling for close to $1000.00 under MSRP. I'll be there right when they open on 2/10. I have been researching for 18 months. Finally ready to buy. Has anyone on this post had ghosting or lag issues with the 94's?

I have the 52HMX94. No ghosting via HDMI. Lag issues? Can't answer that coz I don't play games at all. Last time I played a video game it was still the Atari in the 80's.
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Are you getting any pixel breakup on fast moving scenes or sports?
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on my recent reviews of most RPTVs here, Tosh beats Optoma easily!
checked by cable, DVD, HD dish, Tosh won in all tests!
that's why now 62HM84 is in my living room!

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Hey does 52HM94 have good PQ? Is it better than the Optoma RD50? Does it have HDCP?

Help, I need a TV soon.

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Are you getting any pixel breakup on fast moving scenes or sports?

The only time I noticed this was when I was watching the Matrix Revolution last Saturday on HBO HD. You know that scene when Neo and Smith fighting in the rain? That was the only time I seen pixel breakup. A lot of movement, camera pans and dropping rain. Sports? so far no.
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Has anyone on this post had ghosting or lag issues with the 94's?

The HMX94 series has the game mode to prevent any lag on video games. It also has a nice feature where you can lock out the video input after a period of time (GameTimer). This is nice if you want to limit your kid's game playing.
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I have the LGDVB 418 hooked to the a 52hm84 via hdmi.
The DVDs that I have watched looked good, Shrek, Nemo, Chronicles of Riddick, and Star Wars 2 AOTC.
I upconvert to 720p and 1080i, actual think 1080i looks better.
I don't see Ghosting and the color looks Very GOOD. Using the Card reader Goes Slow if images are huge (digital Rebel owner = huge file sizes). I tired some of my Home Made DVDs that I burnt with Sonic DVD software and some play no problem and some have issues. All this stuff is new (TV and DVD player) so I am still testing it all out. I got a Month to make my decision to keep the DVD Player or Not.
Very Happy with TV!
Just wish I had the x94 version with extra HDMI and Firewire and Built in OTA tuner.
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Great! That is the information I have been waiting to hear. I really don't play video games at all but I feel that if the Tv has a problem with lag time it might have a problem with other types fast action. I'll be buying an HMX94 on Thurs or Fri.
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I have the LGDVB 418 hooked to the a 52hm84 via hdmi.
The DVDs that I have watched looked good, Shrek, Nemo, Chronicles of Riddick, and Star Wars 2 AOTC.
I upconvert to 720p and 1080i, actual think 1080i looks better.
I don't see Ghosting and the color looks Very GOOD.

Man, you're about the only person that's happy with this LG unit. Where did you buy it?
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Great! That is the information I have been waiting to hear. I really don't play video games at all but I feel that if the Tv has a problem with lag time it might have a problem with other types fast action. I'll be buying an HMX94 on Thurs or Fri.

BigDaddy,

You should have searched this thread, I posted long ago about Game Mode and how well it worked. You could have had your TV a lot sooner!

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