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post #17311 of 17325 Old 11-30-2014, 12:25 PM
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I bought this a few weeks after release and it is still working perfectly. I also have the stand. I'm looking to upgrade to 4K soon and am wondering how much I should list this for on Craigslist. Any thoughts?
I think you have maybe two choices.

If you are not buying the new 4K from a full service brick and mortar store give it away or get someone to haul it away.
They are heavy beasts.

Or have the dealer haul it away.

They have really no value anymore.
Rear projection is dead and the eventual failure of the Q when subjected to consistent normal everyday use
means there is a very short life expectancy.
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I bought this a few weeks after release and it is still working perfectly. I also have the stand. I'm looking to upgrade to 4K soon and am wondering how much I should list this for on Craigslist. Any thoughts?
A 70" TV is still a premium size. If it is working well I'd ask $300. Take some good quality pictures of it showing a good HD picture, and also with it off. Warn about the weight. Make sure you make it clear that it has a screen that is 70" diagonal.
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I am in the same boat as a few posters being one of the very few remaining Qualia 006 owners. The PQ is still today stunning, the sound off the hook. No current flat panel has this kind of sound. Every time I put a new "correct" bulb in…not the cheap 1/2 brightness ones, it reminds me of when I 1st got it. Sony put another optical block in it some years back for free. Like most I am noticing the light green blob ever so faintly showing itself, but mostly on all light grey or light blue backgrounds and some B/W content.

I have read that it is one of the 3 chips in the optical block specifically the blue one that fails. All 3 of the chips are supposed to be the same but the "blue filter" cooks the blue chip over time taking on average 3 to 5 years which is typical for 1/2 life of most tv's. This set comes with an anti-theft device, being in that it’s too heavy to steal lol. Get a new flat panel and the worry level skyrockets. 10 grand is a lot of coins for a tv not to mention the stand for the Q.

So I am wondering about options. If anyone has any other ideas? Possibilities that I can think of is below:

1) I buy another tv in 2015 and junk this one.

2) If it is going to be junked then maybe there is another owner that would like one or both of the other 2 functional SXRD chips that are still fine when I junk it, they can just pay me S & H and maybe 20 bucks for my effort of taking it apart to get all 3 chips since I am unsure which is the bad egg. Unless it is apparent when I take humpty dumpty apart, won't know until that stage since I never done it before, but have seen online you tube vids.

3) Another owner and I talk that is going to do #2 above and is willing to send me the 2 or 3 chips since he/she is going to junk it and I will try to figure out how to have the bad blue chip replaced paying for a local labor tv service man in house. Having at least 2 good chips in hand would increase the lifespan up to 8 more years possibly.

4) I give it away.

Anyway if I could get another couple of good chips my Qualia 006 would make me very happy for quite a few more years. If I do junk it I still have a 2nd genuine Phillips OEM bulb that cost nearly 100 bucks that I could give someone if they pay only S & H. Feel free to pvt message me if you concur on any of the aforementioned.

I corresponded with sonylistens@am.sony.com via email mid 2014 when the 4k XBR-79X900B was coming out and they said they would (after numerous emails) sell it to me for 7,999.00 when it retailed for 9,999.00 originally and haul away my old Q for free. But I told them in just a few short months that it would retail for 7,999.00 or less and told them to forget it. Now it is even less than that. Plus reports of quality issues like DSE, banding, clouding etc. on AVS for that set additionally scared me off. So I wait until after the CES show in 2015 since most all 2014 4k sets are of questionalbe quality (panel lottery) and mostly overpriced for what they offer. The upcomming QD from LG & others looks promising. OLED forget it with my budget. Being spoiled with 70" by the Q, I dare not downsize so that further limits my options.

I talked to a electronics tech (http://www.rivervalleyelectronics.net/) that carries some chips but not the qualia ones. He said they also used to rebuild the opital blocks but do not anymore. I asked him what would be his recommendation on a new 4k set for 2015 and he said they are all basically junk and & are hard to repair & even get parts for. He said get any extended warranties offered and wished me luck. Bummed in Illinois...

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas.

Tim

What we will be is not what we are, what we are is not what we were...therefore hoping in all things becomes possible.

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I bit the bullet a long time ago after Sony paid me $$$ for the defect.
You do not know how bad the Qualia 6 is compared to the new 4k displays. Even if yours was perfect the picture is distorted because of the mirrors and it is dim even with a new quality bulb.
The Q never had good contrast or brightness. It was like a poor front projector TV in a bright room
I researched long ago fixing or replacing the filters. You need a special setup to get the chips aligned correctly. It is a horrendous operation that no one wanted to attempt.

The alternative is how long you want to put up with no blues and a green tinted screen

Buy a new large screen 4k and have the dealer cart the 006 away

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Thanks thestewman all suggestions are appreciated. Sigh.

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Thanks thestewman all suggestions are appreciated. Sigh.
It is what it is.

You know the Q006 was shipped to the first users, of which I was one in 2005.
A lot of new technology has been developed and put on the market in the 10 years that have past.
It was the best at the time. To bad there was the design flaw which allowed the heat to destroy the blue filter.
The cost to Sony was $5000 for the optical unit and with the few units sold they soon went to rebuilt units.
They had the equipment to align the optical unit. Others tried using the mechanical's of a stripped down Q006 to temp mount the optical unit and attempt aligning it. Slow and costly.
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Hey gang, Merry Christmas to all who may frequent here - hope everyone had a great Xmas. Just wanted to check in, say hello, but also wanted to tell you about an interesting Sony product that has managed to get me to stop swearing off all things Sony for a while! As we were all burned a bit by the Q fiasco with green blob, I have been living happily with my Elite 70 inch (Sharp), and loving it. Can't believe they did away with the platform so quickly, but I'm happy to have one of the first ones, and it's going great still, hopefully for many more years!

But the Sony toy that has me appreciating them again, is my brand new Sony HAP-1ZES, the high rez music player that decodes DSD etc. The unit is built like a tank, over 35 lbs, and sounds terrific. The best part about it is the user interface on the Sony app for the iPad and iPhone are the best I've ever used, and I've used a TON of them - PS Audio, Olive, Marantz, etc etc. To me, the user interface is everything with these non-disk spinners, you have feel comfortable using them, and the design of the app has to be attractive with cover art, ease of use, etc. Sony absolutely NAILED it with the apps, and the good news is that the sound quality is stunning. Basically the HAP-Z upconverts everything to DSD, even high rez PCM like FLAC files, etc. The sound thru the XLR outs is stunning. Now, it was great out of the box, but I decided to have it modified by Dan Wright at Modwright, to put a tube front-end on it, as well as their latest PS9 outboard power supply and rectifier tube. WOW! I am not even broken in on these tubes yet, and it sounds stunning. I am appreciating good music again, especially my CD collection in FLAC format, or high rez downloads, or DSD rips, etc. Great stuff! So if any of you Sony fans are looking for a new toy on the music side, I'd recommend having a listen. My new favorite A/V product, period.

Hope everyone is finding their own new toys to enjoy, let us know what's out there, I'm always curious.

Cheers to all!
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QUALIA 006 Owner's Thread

My Qualia finally decided that it wants to retire. I'm looking for help ...

the "help me choose an LCD" thread

Any help appreciated...


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My Qualia finally decided that it wants to retire. I'm looking for help ...

the "help me choose an LCD" thread

Any help appreciated...

Wow that is definitely going out with a bang... kind of puts the blob to shame.

FYI the Qualia 006 is listed as one of the sexiest tvs of all time per this list

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/3/748...nt-at-ces-2015

Happy New Year all glad to see life still pumping in this thread!
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TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY ... On January 7, it will be 10 years to the day that my Q006 was delivered. While it was gifted to a local law school a couple of years ago, I still have fond memories of seeing the set fire up for the first time and the many enjoyable hours of viewing it provided. On a related front, throughout these last 10 years I have enjoyed reading this thread and bonding with fellow Qualians. It had been a joy. I hope it continues. Even if less often than in the early days.

This is really the only thread I follow on AVS, but I am curious ... I'm sure there are other threads on AVS that have gone on longer than 10 years???

Happy New everybody!

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Wow that is definitely going out with a bang... kind of puts the blob to shame.

FYI the Qualia 006 is listed as one of the sexiest tvs of all time per this list

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/3/748...nt-at-ces-2015

Happy New Year all glad to see life still pumping in this thread!
Yes, OB failed. Sony offered 20% off any non 4k TV, but I didn't think that was great knowing what I spent on this thing. Let's just say over 1k per year.

I went with a Vizio P70 and I love it. Picture looks better and the input lag in HDMI 5 with Gaming Low Latency set to on is less that 20 ms. Set up properly, no motion issues and no visual blocking at the line of scrimmage. Really, very happy so far. 5 year warranty and cost $2,499. Best of all?

No Bulbs that dim over time!!!!!!!!!!


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Ugh. My Qualia is showing the green blob/hue again. Had the optical block replaced a 3 or 4 years ago under warranty. Is there no longer a fix for this? I haven't been using mine much at all and its basically been dormant for a year or two. I can't remember crap for the details on this issue. I remember they extended the warranty or something on it, but I am guessing that has long passed. Did some people get a replacement complete set from Sony under warranty?
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I am afraid to write this and jinx myself but I was one of the eoriginal purchasers of the Q but still am on my original optical block and to date have never gotten the green blob. There are two factors that may have been the reason for this and while I'm unsure about it, it may be a combination of both.

The first reason is that my set has had relatively low use. I am a snowbird and spend half of the year in NJ (where this set is) and the other half in Florida. Obviously that in itself means less use. To the best of my knowledge I changed the bulb once but it is starting to dim again and I need to change it again.

The other potential reason is an interesting one. Instead of installing the set on a shelf, I needed to place it into a wall unit. I was very afraid of the heat buildup enclosing the set that way so at the time I first installed it, I put a series of external fans right behind the set in the wall unit that go on automatically as soon as the set is turned on and stay on as long as it stays on. These fans are connected to a plastic duct which carries all of the heat away from the set and out of the side of the wall unit.

My suspicion is that the Q was designed with inadequate ventilation and really needed additional external ventilation to prevent the block from overheating. I think that I stumbled into protecting against this and that's a big part of why mine hasn't failed yet.
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Well, it's nice to see this thread is still alive after all of these years. I am in the exact same boat as Beefchopper, above. Bought the 006 in the first year it was out, and am still using the original optical block, mine's never failed. Any day now, it will, I figure. Anyway, as far as Beefchopper's theories above, it's gotta be the first one. Mine is out in the open, no special ventilation. So my operating theory is that it's the hours and consistency of use that cause the failure.

Mine can go 2 weeks or more without any use, sometimes even a month. Then, when used, it might be on for 4 to 8 hours. Then, usually, weeks of non-use again. I think that's they key. Low hours, AND when used, it's not turned on day after day.

I know I'm lucky to have gotten this many years out of it. One of my custom-install clients purchased one the same week I did, and his died probably 3 years or more ago. He called Sony and they sent him a (I think) 60" LCD TV for free at the time. He took it, but was not happy. His 006 was used daily, for hours at a time. So I think that's the key.

I love mine, though I know some of the newer, high-quality sets look better, I'm still going to hang onto it until it dies.....which'll probably be within a couple weeks, now that I have posted this on the forum!

I agree with other posters...... I've got to have *at least* a 70", maybe a 75" to replace this one. We just installed a client-purchased Samsung 75" LED/LCD, and it didn't look half bad....so maybe that's a possibility. We shall see.....
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Good to see a decade later so many familiar names. The Q will be quite a memory for me as will all these conversations. Nothing too amazing in the electronic toys category here. My Q still sees use as a kids tv and right now I am enjoying putting my bose qc25 over my shure 535 ltd so get a huge amount of noise reduction and top notch sound (the qc 25s are a good bit better than the old qc15 in terms of sound and a bit better in noise cancelling but nowhere near what an audiophile would want). I can't wait til they start coming to market with some very good VR setups -- those 140 inch tvs will not be able to compete with total immersion I hope and they won't have a 6 figure price tag. Hmm I will say the new xps 13 laptop is nicer than the mac airs but my wife primarily uses it I find 13 inches just a bit too small regardless of how amazing the picture is. Touchscreen on a laptop has also never been a favorite of mine but I guess that is what the windows menu is meant for.
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