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I received my offer today from Sony after I reported that my KDF-42WE655 is experiencing the yellow blob effect. Here is the offer they gave me:

KDLE55X710 $425.00 + local sales tax
KDL55HX800 $775.00 + local sales tax
KDL55NX810 $860.00 + local sales tax
KDL46NX810 $610.00 + local sales tax
KDL40EX520 $150.00 + local sales tax


So I'm now in the group that received the offer including 5 different models, but I think I'm the only one given this price point. Can anyone comment?
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I received my offer today from Sony after I reported that my KDF-42WE655 is experiencing the yellow blob effect. Here is the offer they gave me:

KDLE55X710 $425.00 + local sales tax
KDL55HX800 $775.00 + local sales tax
KDL55NX810 $860.00 + local sales tax
KDL46NX810 $610.00 + local sales tax
KDL40EX520 $150.00 + local sales tax


So I'm now in the group that received the offer including 5 different models, but I think I'm the only one given this price point. Can anyone comment?

The price depends on model #, size, and age.
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I'm getting my 55" NX today. $760 plus tx. It's bigger than my kdfe42a10. I usually just read posts, but wanted to thank you all for sharing your stories. I wouldn't have known about the replacements Sony is offering. We just started noticing yellow and blue blobs.
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The price depends on model #, size, and age.

Thanks for that. It was the obvious answer that I didn't want to hear
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Placed my order this afternoon for the 46NX810.

Any tips for photographing the TV?
Its pretty plain to see the yellow stain with the naked eye, but I am having a really hard time capturing it in photos.
So far I have tried pausing a hockey game, since thats one place where its really evident, and also hooking up a laptop and displaying a full screen blank white Notepad document.
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Placed my order this afternoon for the 46NX810.

Any tips for photographing the TV?
Its pretty plain to see the yellow stain with the naked eye, but I am having a really hard time capturing it in photos.
So far I have tried pausing a hockey game, since thats one place where its really evident, and also hooking up a laptop and displaying a full screen blank white Notepad document.

Try a full grey background.
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I also found it easier to display an SD channel.
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Now for an extended warranty. They all ask for the receipt with price paid on it. The packing slip doesn't have a price on it. What now?
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Can anyone tell me if there is a huge difference b/w the KDFE50A10 vs. KDS-R50xBR1? I read an offer than someone got who had the KDS-R50xBR1 with a bad OB. Her offer was crazy low. Example:

I got offered: KDL55EX710 $325.00 + local sales tax. She got offered the same model for $50! Wtf? Are our original tv models that different to warrant such a difference in offers? They are both 50" Grand Wegas.

If not, anything I can do to get that offer? I haven't accepted my offer yet. I have until Monday.
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It all depends on original retail price, model, and year. The other tv is an xbr model so that should tell you it cost more.
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Placed my order this afternoon for the 46NX810.

Any tips for photographing the TV?
Its pretty plain to see the yellow stain with the naked eye, but I am having a really hard time capturing it in photos.
So far I have tried pausing a hockey game, since thats one place where its really evident, and also hooking up a laptop and displaying a full screen blank white Notepad document.

I just hit record on my DVR when a commercial with a white background would come on. ATT and Chevron were good ones.
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It all depends on original retail price, model, and year. The other tv is an xbr model so that should tell you it cost more.

I have no clue about how much the tv's cost that's why I was asking if there was a big difference. I'm a tv novice

I bought mine in early 2006 and paid $2500. Were the XBR models a lot more typically?
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I have no clue about how much the tv's cost that's why I was asking if there was a big difference. I'm a tv novice

I bought mine in early 2006 and paid $2500. Were the XBR models a lot more typically?

The 50" xbr1 cost about $1500.00 more than the e50a10 when new. So if you think about it your getting the better deal since you paid far less originally.
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The 50" xbr1 cost about $1500.00 more than the e50a10 when new. So if you think about it your getting the better deal since you paid far less originally.

Ah! Ok. Still I would like to only pay $50 for 55".
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The xbr was a top of the line sony along with the sxrds. That is why sony offers those owners a slightly better deal.

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Ah! Ok. Still I would like to only pay $50 for 55".

I had the 55WF655 and paid $3200 when it first came out and I took the 60EX700 for $725.
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FYI guys, I had the EX700(same as 710) and I now have the NX810. Both are 60 inches.
The EX700 had very bad flashlighting and viewing angles were kind of crappy. The NX810 has zero issues with clouding--much blacker blacks and better off angle viewing. Glare is not an issue on either sets and the NX810 (despite some idiot reviewer who I am sure didnt turn off the ambient light option) can get painfully bright if thats your thing. I had the same concerns of glare as everyone else and the tv is more than bright enough to overwhelm any ambient light. Hope this helps.
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FYI guys, I had the EX700(same as 710) and I now have the NX810. Both are 60 inches.
The EX700 had very bad flashlighting and viewing angles were kind of crappy. The NX810 has zero issues with clouding--much blacker blacks and better off angle viewing. Glare is not an issue on either sets and the NX810 (despite some idiot reviewer who I am sure didnt turn off the ambient light option) can get painfully bright if thats your thing. I had the same concerns of glare as everyone else and the tv is more than bright enough to overwhelm any ambient light. Hope this helps.

The EX700 did not make a 55" (EX710). You didn't mention flash lighting. Do you notice any with your NX810?

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FYI guys, I had the EX700(same as 710) and I now have the NX810. Both are 60 inches.
The EX700 had very bad flashlighting and viewing angles were kind of crappy. The NX810 has zero issues with clouding--much blacker blacks and better off angle viewing. Glare is not an issue on either sets and the NX810 (despite some idiot reviewer who I am sure didnt turn off the ambient light option) can get painfully bright if thats your thing. I had the same concerns of glare as everyone else and the tv is more than bright enough to overwhelm any ambient light. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the update. I'm still very happy with my 60EX700. I'm sure if I tried to get the 60 inch 810 it would cost a lot more on top of my offer. I look at it this way, if this tv makes 5 years again I will be happy. By then something else will replace it.
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Sony revised my offer because I had just bought a new lamp for 50A10. When they called me back with the new offer they said they were no longer offering the 55NX810. They are out!

So the offers are now b/w the 55HX800, 55EX710, and 46NX810. I was going to go for the EX710. I am just an amateur tv watcher. I don't play with the settings at all. Just good old factory default settings. I just like to turn the tv on. We watch tv on our good old DirecTV DVR - no HD. So tell me will the EX710 still be ok? I keep reading mixed reviews everywhere.

I do know that I don't want to go down in size so the 46" is it out of the picture.
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Sony revised my offer because I had just bought a new lamp for 50A10. When they called me back with the new offer they said they were no longer offering the 55NX810. They are out!

So the offers are now b/w the 55HX800, 55EX710, and 46NX810. I was going to go for the EX710. I am just an amateur tv watcher. I don't play with the settings at all. Just good old factory default settings. I just like to turn the tv on. We watch tv on our good old DirecTV DVR - no HD. So tell me will the EX710 still be ok? I keep reading mixed reviews everywhere.

I do know that I don't want to go down in size so the 46" is it out of the picture.

Your DirecTV DVR only has...

1 S-Video
2 Composite (RCA)

...for Video Outputs. No HDMI.

The manual for the 710 says:
Video Signal : 1080/60p (HDMI™ / COMPONENT), 1080/60i, 1080/24p (HDMI™ ONLY), 720/60p, 480/60p, 480/60i

Seems like you'll be able to connect the DirecTV DVR to the TV (composite, no S-Video hookups on EX710), but the quality isn't going to be great, at all. Unless you used an AVR (audio video receiver) to "upscale" the image to something more compatible - sounds like you don't have one. I think they're planning on phasing out the standard DVR's in exchange for HD receivers. So, looks like whichever TV you chose, you're not going to be using the TV to its maximum capacity since your current DVR is limited in 1) Connections 2) Video Out Resolution. The TV will shine with the PS3 (HDMI) - playing blueray movies.

Here's the iManual for the EX710
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDL32EX700_qs.pdf

With whichever tv you decide, you'll be set for future upgrades.
Someone else can comment if they have the same setup.

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The EX700 did not make a 55" (EX710). You didn't mention flash lighting. Do you notice any with your NX810?

I said they were both 60 inches. I never mentioned a 55". Anyway--The NX810 has no flashlighting with the local dimming turned on. I didnt bother to look with it off because I never want it to be off. Hard to tell the difference between the bezel and the blacks on screen(during film credits or smething). Excellent tv. Very pleased.
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Sony revised my offer because I had just bought a new lamp for 50A10. When they called me back with the new offer they said they were no longer offering the 55NX810. They are out!

So the offers are now b/w the 55HX800, 55EX710, and 46NX810. I was going to go for the EX710. I am just an amateur tv watcher. I don't play with the settings at all. Just good old factory default settings. I just like to turn the tv on. We watch tv on our good old DirecTV DVR - no HD. So tell me will the EX710 still be ok? I keep reading mixed reviews everywhere.

I do know that I don't want to go down in size so the 46" is it out of the picture.

HX800 is a better set. Not sure why you wouldnt go for that--maybe 100.00 difference ? Plus the design is better as well.
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HX800 is a better set. Not sure why you wouldnt go for that--maybe 100.00 difference ? Plus the design is better as well.

It's a $350 difference. Still worth it?
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I said they were both 60 inches. I never mentioned a 55". Anyway--The NX810 has no flashlighting with the local dimming turned on. I didnt bother to look with it off because I never want it to be off. Hard to tell the difference between the bezel and the blacks on screen(during film credits or smething). Excellent tv. Very pleased.

Just saying the difference between the series. The panels for 700/710 may be different. No local dimming on the 700/710's, like there is on the NX800. < Which seems to correct your flash lighting, or is concealing it - which is why you don't want to turn it off. I wouldn't pay any more than I'd have to for the junk on the market nowadays.

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It's a $350 difference. Still worth it?

To me it would be. I paid an extra 570 to get the NX810 and I am thrilled with it. The HX800 has a lot of the same attributes and its 3d. Most importantly it has local dimming. Which means it wont have the flashlighting/clouding issues that plague the Ex700/Ex710/Ex720 series. You buy a tv once every 5 to 6 years or longer. So whats that like 50-60 dollars a year....seems like not much being most TV's get used everyday to some extent.
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To me it would be. I paid an extra 570 to get the NX810 and I am thrilled with it. The HX800 has a lot of the same attributes and its 3d. Most importantly it has local dimming. Which means it wont have the flashlighting/clouding issues that plague the Ex700/Ex710/Ex720 series. You buy a tv once every 5 to 6 years or longer. So whats that like 50-60 dollars a year....seems like not much being most TV's get used everyday to some extent.

The flash lighting / clouding issue doesn't effect my picture. The little flash lighting / clouding I get (on a no signal black screen) doesn't bother me any - since it is isolated to no signal screens. Don't watch 3D. For $325 (EX710) - if the tv last me 5 years, that's only $65 a YEAR (versus $152 a year (x 5 years) for the NX810. More than TWICE the amount in comparison.). Big payoff to me. By that time, OLED will be available and these sets will be considered antique anyway. Check your math gdog.

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The flash lighting / clouding issue doesn't effect my picture. The little flash lighting / clouding I get (on a no signal black screen) doesn't bother me any - since it is isolated to no signal screens. Don't watch 3D. For $325 (EX710) - if the tv last me 5 years, that's only $65 a YEAR (versus $152 a year (x 5 years) for the NX810. More than TWICE the amount in comparison.). Big payoff to me. By that time, OLED will be available and these sets will be considered antique anyway. Check your math gdog.

You may have a better set than I had in regards to flashlighting. Any really dark scenes the flashlighting was evident on my ex700. As far as the math--the other poster said the HX800 would cost him an extra 350. (being the nx810 is no longer available)
So its an extra 70a year for him. To me it would be worth it, but money is not an issue, at least not that little bit of money for me. You need to pay more attention to the details. Now if you like your ex710---good for you. I hated mine and found the flashlighting unacceptable. I am sure it varies from TV to TV but with local dimming your chances are much better to get a flashlight/cloud free set. Without the flashlighting I would have been happy with the EX700.
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You may have a better set than I had in regards to flashlighting. Any really dark scenes the flashlighting was evident on my ex700. As far as the math--the other poster said the HX800 would cost him an extra 350. (being the nx810 is no longer available)
So its an extra 70a year for him. To me it would be worth it, but money is not an issue, at least not that little bit of money for me. You need to pay more attention to the details. Now if you like your ex710---good for you. I hated mine and found the flashlighting unacceptable. I am sure it varies from TV to TV but with local dimming your chances are much better to get a flashlight/cloud free set. Without the flashlighting I would have been happy with the EX700.

You must have had a bad case scenario. "with local dimming" blah blah - yeah, in other words, pay more to conceal it. Also gives your tv another excuse to mess up down the road. How are your halo effects with your local dimming?

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It's a $350 difference. Still worth it?

Geez, I'm still so torn on whether to go with the EX710 or the HX800. I keep reading reviews of the EX710 on the official EX710 board and they are so mixed. It's either I love it and no flashlighting issues or I hate it because of the flashlighting. Would the flashlighting just be a defect in the particular set that is made or is that how they are all made? My revised offer is as follows:

55EX710 - 144+sales tax
55HX800 - $494+sales tax

I have no interest in watching 3D. In fact I don't even have HD. Of course when I get the new set I will probably upgrade to an HD DVR either with DirecTV or maybe switch to Comcast. Get this, Directv wants me to pay $100 for a HD DVR and still pay a monthly leasing fee. However, I think Comcast would give me the HD DVR with no money up front. Just the monthly fee. Anyhoo, I just can't decide on which TV. I'm such a newb when it comes to this stuff.

I'm almost scared to get the EX710 because if it does have the flashlighting issue how would I be able to return with it being through the replacement program?
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