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Just wanted people to know Sears has the A10 50" available for immediate delivery. My store just got in their floor display today. I took the top off the box and pluged t in but didn't put it on display because we still have the old model in stock. The picture is amazing and in my opinion much better then last years model. Blacks are much better and the adjustable iris definately helps with that. I only had it on for about 10 minutes but if you were on the fence thinking about it I say go for it. Mine is being delivered on Saturday and I picked up my sony stand today. I could of had the TV delivered today but I am moving on Friday so I wanted it to go right to my new apartement. So if you need the TV ASAP then go to Sears, it is available in the NorthEast.
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Snake where specifically are you in the northeast? MA, CT, RI, NH, ME, VT....?
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I don't think Sony or anyone else is raising the price. I always have thought that UE was more expensive than other retailers. Thier sale prices are usually higher than most stores regular prices IMO.

2799 was the correct price. Sony lowered the prices to 2499, before the units shipped. Some retailers are not aware of it and still have a higher price in their systems.
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I know the 50" is 46 4/8 across.Does anyone know how far that 46 5/8 extends back?I was wondering if it would fit in my 45 3/4 w entertainment center.I have the depth and i guess it could stick out a couple of inches frontways and 3/4" on the side.Also,on the Iris feature,as i understand it is someting that you have to manually set it is not the dynamic iris i've heard about on their front screen projector.Is this correct? Thanks.

The bezel is about 2" (2 1/2" if you add the bottom lip that curves in front of the screen). That receeds 3/4" on each side, before the taper to the rear.
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Also,on the Iris feature,as i understand it is someting that you have to manually set it is not the dynamic iris i've heard about on their front screen projector.Is this correct? Thanks.

The iris in the A10's is a dynamic iris similar to the one that is in the HS51 front projector. This should give the A10's a much higher on/off CR than any previous RP LCD.
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Just wanted people to know Sears has the A10 50" available for immediate delivery. My store just got in their floor display today. I took the top off the box and pluged t in but didn't put it on display because we still have the old model in stock. The picture is amazing and in my opinion much better then last years model. Blacks are much better and the adjustable iris definately helps with that. I only had it on for about 10 minutes but if you were on the fence thinking about it I say go for it. Mine is being delivered on Saturday and I picked up my sony stand today. I could of had the TV delivered today but I am moving on Friday so I wanted it to go right to my new apartement. So if you need the TV ASAP then go to Sears, it is available in the NorthEast.


Can you tell me the Sears part #
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Just wanted people to know Sears has the A10 50" available for immediate delivery. My store just got in their floor display today....So if you need the TV ASAP then go to Sears, it is available in the NorthEast.

Any idea why I can't access it on the website if it's available in the stores?
Mitch G's Avatar Mitch G
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Any idea why I can't access it on the website if it's available in the stores?

I believe its not on the website because they are still trying to clear out the old inventory (the old 50").
At my local Sears yesterday the guy said he had a 50A10 in the back but they weren't going to put it out on the floor until they cleared out the old 50."
However, he could order one for me and I would have it by tomorrow.

I wasn't ready to pull the trigger - I'm still debating between the 42 and 50.


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I just got back from Sears here in Kingston MA and no A10's. They did have the 60A20 that looked really nice. Didn't play with; just walked by.
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42" from Sony Style shipping 8/3.


Now I just have to place the order!
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I wasn't ready to pull the trigger - I'm still debating between the 42 and 50.
Mitch

That's part of my hesitation....my viewing distance is 7.5-8 feet. I've got a 38" direct view now and want something bigger...something that gets me into the action more, but I'm concerned about SDE with the 50 inch at that distance. Sony recommends about about 6.5 ft (I think) for the 50 in. There are so many different views on this it's hard to tell. In the stores, 50 inch doesn't seem too bad at 7-8 ft., but it's not optimal in a store for judging.
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That's part of my hesitation....my viewing distance is 7.5-8 feet. I've got a 38" direct view now and want something bigger...something that gets me into the action more, but I'm concerned about SDE with the 50 inch at that distance. Sony recommends about about 6.5 ft (I think) for the 50 in. There are so many different views on this it's hard to tell. In the stores, 50 inch doesn't seem too bad at 7-8 ft., but it's not optimal in a store for judging.

I have the same viewing distance as you, and I've got the same debate going on in my head. I will need to see the 50" on display before I buy it, since I notice SDE very easily. The question will be: how noticeable is it from 8 ft. The 6.5ft that sony specs is their minimum recommended viewing distance. I'm hoping SDE/SSE won't be too noticeable from beyond that distance.
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My viewing distance is about 9' which apparently means I'm supposed to get a 50" TV. But, I have 32" 4:3 TV that seems to be big enough, , and a 42" HDTV is pretty much a match in terms of screen size (in SD mode, for example). But, it might be nice to upgrade to a 50" (which is about the same as a 40" 4:3 in SD mode). A 50" set is alot of hardware in my relatively small family room - plus its a few more dollars.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the 50. But, I will buy it locally so I can return/exchange it for the 42" if I end up thinking it really is too big for the room.

As far as SDE is concerned, I spent a good amount of time over the past few days looking at the older generation 50" and the 55A20 and 60A20, Even at pretty close viewing distances (4 feet or so), I thought the picture looked great and didn't really notice an SDE unless I really looked for it and even then I only really seemed to see it mostly in large monochromatic swaths of screen. (And, I do mean SDE and not SSE - which I do notice in some scenes [brighter ones] but it really doesn't bother me.)


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maybe this has already been asked but does anyone have a guess to the width of the 42" at the back of the tv? I have an entertainment center in the corner of the room (original homeowner built it) and I'm extremely limited by the width of the tv.

I think the A10 42" is my best option, but if it won't fit I have to go with LCD or Plasma.
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Just got back from my local Sears where I spent 1 1/2 hrs going over the new 50" Sony A10. It was set up next to the Sony 42" Current model, I believe its the WE655 whatever. Anyways.............WOW what a picture! Get this it should, if you can believe this, be even better at home. Reason: Sears has all their sets on a loop feed set at 1080i so it stands to reason 720p will look even better. We set the menus up to my personal taste to have a complete list of settings for both audio and video. The set was looking very good right out of the box, but you know how it goes........like salt and pepper, it depends on your personal taste. Folks, I'm not only excited........I'm PUMPED! On Aug 14, Sears will have their "Friends and Family Night (day)".....where most, if not all things in the store will be 10% off. Its even possible that set may be on sale that day so that its 2499 now, and say they sell it for 2399; that means the 10% off will be at the 2399 price point. BTW, I should also add that the picture of the new 50" set is a noticeable improvement over the current 42" despite the slightly larger screen. Oh, one more thing the SOUND.......I'm disappointed that it doesn't at least match the quality (as to "fullness") of my Samsung HLN437w. Come on SONY you guys could have done better. The Sound of the 50" A10 leaves more that a bit to be desired. Sound is very important to me as it is a major component of the "Audio/Visual" experience.

Folks, it doesn't get any better (outside of a free TV)! Now if someone will just buy my Sammy HLN437W!
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See it for $2144.99 shipped from authorized dealers. PM me if you want to know.
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does anyone know when CC will get the a10 in their stores.
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Kmil....what is this "Friends and Family Night" on Aug. 14? Is it just locally or at all Sears? Only for employees? I guess I have to get on the phone and try to get some info on when this set will be available in this area. I went through something similar 5 years ago when I tried to get RCA's 38-inch directview crt-HDTV. Back then, I was lucky if I could find sales people who even knew of the term HDTV!
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Kmil....what is this "Friends and Family Night" on Aug. 14? Is it just locally or at all Sears? Only for employees? I guess I have to get on the phone and try to get some info on when this set will be available in this area. I went through something similar 5 years ago when I tried to get RCA's 38-inch directview crt-HDTV. Back then, I was lucky if I could find sales people who even knew of the term HDTV!


I just checked with Sears and the August 14 Friends and Family is for ANYONE!
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Sony Canada said they are not getting the set till Sept 1st.
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8/14 is a tax free day in MA. If sears has a deal that is the day to buy!!!!!
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I noticed in Sears this morning that all their HD sets are run off of a loop that runs at 1080i.........therefore when you get to the proper menu you'll notice that the screen menu does indeed show the setting as: 1080i.....my question is since the set itself is a 720P set would 720P automatically show up in the menu setting .......... OR, do you have to SET it to 720? If so, how would you do that. Is there a place in the menu settings to change settings, say to......720P ?
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Since the TV is a display device and not an output device, wouldn't it automatically change to accomodate the best display properties dependent upon what is being input to it?
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Oh, one more thing the SOUND.......I'm disappointed that it doesn't at least match the quality (as to "fullness") of my Samsung HLN437w. Come on SONY you guys could have done better. The Sound of the 50" A10 leaves more that a bit to be desired. Sound is very important to me as it is a major component of the "Audio/Visual" experience.

That's because Sony went and put the speakers on the bottom. But really, I don't care... that's why I have things like a 1000W 6.1 channel home theater system.
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I noticed in Sears this morning that all their HD sets are run off of a loop that runs at 1080i.........therefore when you get to the proper menu you'll notice that the screen menu does indeed show the setting as: 1080i.....my question is since the set itself is a 720P set would 720P automatically show up in the menu setting .......... OR, do you have to SET it to 720? If so, how would you do that. Is there a place in the menu settings to change settings, say to......720P ?

It will tell you what resolution the feed is, 1080i, 480i/p, etc. But since it's a 720p display, it will always display in 720p. Any feed other than 720p will be converted in some way, shape, or form to fit the TV's 1280x720 pixels. You don't have to worry about setting anything, but a 720p feed will look the best since there is no extra conversion.
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The Sound of the 50" A10 leaves more that a bit to be desired. Sound is very important to me as it is a major component of the "Audio/Visual" experience.

Folks, it doesn't get any better (outside of a free TV)! Now if someone will just buy my Sammy HLN437W!

Thanks for the heads up on the friends and family thing. 10% off will more than offset the taxes I could have saved by buying from an E-tailer. Plus, Sears carries the Silver Sensor HDTV indoor antenna that I plan on using for free HDTV broadcasts - we don't need no stinking cable.

As far as sound is concerned, I have two words for you: "Home Theater."
You really should get a 5.1 system (or 6.1 or 7.1). I would assert even a cheapo home theater in a box would be worthwhile. But, I would suggest dropping a few more dollars and doing it right (well, at least right-ish).
Avsforum and the hometheaterforum offer great insight into the audio part of the experience.


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My store is the Sears Essential's in Londonderry NH. The Sears stock number for the 50" is 54635 and the 42" is 54625. I put the 50" on display today right next to Last years Sony 50" and this years 46" Samsung HLR. The new A10 blows the other two away in my opinion. I can't wait to get mine on Saturday. It is true delivery time to get the TV is about 1-2 days in my area. Sears also sells the matching stand to the 50" but as of right now the 42" stand isn't in the system. I am so glad to be beating BB and CC to the punch with getting this TV quicker then them.
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My store is the Sears Essential's in Londonderry NH. The Sears stock number for the 50" is 54635 and the 42" is 54625. I put the 50" on display today right next to Last years Sony 50" and this years 46" Samsung HLR. The new A10 blows the other two away in my opinion. I can't wait to get mine on Saturday. It is true delivery time to get the TV is about 1-2 days in my area. Sears also sells the matching stand to the 50" but as of right now the 42" stand isn't in the system. I am so glad to be beating BB and CC to the punch with getting this TV quicker then them.

How much was the 42" model listed at Sears? I could not find this part number at the Sears website.
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2799 was the correct price. Sony lowered the prices to 2499, before the units shipped. Some retailers are not aware of it and still have a higher price in their systems.

I know this thread is for the A10's but the BB in Columbus, OH (Easton area) has the 55A20 on display listed at $2,799 and shows the 50A10's in the system for $2,499, though none guaranteed to be in stock until 8/14 (!!!) They had the 50WE655 at $2,499...I think, though it might have been $2,199.

They claim they had to clear the 655's out before they would get the A10's in.
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thinksnow, I know that they are in the system, when does CC expect to receive them in the stores. Did you talk to someone there. What did they say?

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