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Now that CES 2005 is kicking off, I thought I would start a thread to discuss the new 2006 Samsung HDTV DLP's. Please post your CES observations, photos, press releases and any other ideas.

If you are at CES and have a digital camera, please take some photos. Photos of the front, side, and back input area on the TV's can anwser a lot of questions. Also, shot photos of any of the Samsung posters that are up to explain the new technology and any placecards next to the TV's that list features. These have been great in the past in quickly understanding the new TV's.

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Originally Posted By: scottnyc
Say goodbye to the color wheel and yes, it has 1080p inputs! It says "true 1080p", anyone have word on a new DLP chip?

Here are the highlights:
  1. HL-S5679W available April 1 for $4,199
  2. First Ever LED Light Source DLP
  3. No color wheel (no rainbows)
  4. 2 1080P HDMI inputs
  5. Improved bulb life

Las Vegas, NV - Samsung, a world leader in HDTV display technology and innovation, introduces the first ever LED light sourced DLP rear projection HDTV. The HL-S5679W's unique LED light source engine offers a host of benefits, including significantly improved longevity, increased color gamut reproduction, quicker turn-on time, and greater environmental friendliness. See Samsung's HL-S5679W along with the full award-winning DLP line during CES 2006 at the Samsung booth, #11033 in the Central Hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center from January 5th - 8th.

The HL-S5679W replaces the current UHP bulb with a high-powered LED light source. The LED light sourced single chip DLP light engine does not require a color wheel and provides improved longevity. Red, green and blue laser LEDs sequentially fire to produce smooth, stable color. The LumiLit light engine ensures a longer lamp life (20,000 hours without brightness degradation) and a shorter turn-on time (7 seconds). The engine is also mercury-free making it more environmentally friendly.

The LED Light Sourced DLP RPTV once again demonstrates Samsung's commitment to advancing the boundaries of technology innovation and design excellence, said Dan Schinasi, Senior Marketing Manager for Projection TV for Samsung Electronics America. With improvements in lamp life, picture stability, turn-on time and Mercury free, the HL-S5679W launches a new era for DLP HDTVs.

The HL-S5679W operates longer and quieter than previously designed light engine based rear projection TV sets. The LED light sourced DLP RPTV provides natural color, with an improved color gamut versus traditional CRT televisions. Featuring true high definition 1920 x 1080p resolution and Samsung's Cinema Smooth light engine with Texas Instruments DLP technology, the HL-S5679W displays picture with breathtaking clarity and vividness. Two 1080p HDMI inputs that are compatible with the latest 1080p source content, provides plug and play connectivity for digital devices. And the black glossy finish and integrated ATSC and NTSC tuner ensure that the HL-S5679W will be an elegant addition to any living room, and the Cable Card feature allows the TV to be used without a cable box.

The HL-S5679W will be available in April 2006 at MSRP $4,199.

About Samsung Electronics America, Inc.
Headquartered in Ridgefield Park, NJ, Samsung Electronics America, Inc. (SEA), a wholly owned subsidiary of Samsung Electronics Co., markets a broad range of award-winning, advanced digital consumer electronics, information systems and home appliance products. The SEA organization oversees the North American operations of Samsung including Samsung Telecommunications America, LP, Samsung Electronics Canada, Inc. and Samsung Electronics Mexico, Inc. Please visit www.samsung.com for more information.

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Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. is a global leader in semiconductor, telecommunication, digital media and digital convergence technologies with 2004 parent company sales of US$55.2 billion and net income of US$10.3 billion. Employing approximately 113,600 people in over 90 offices in 48 countries, the company consists of five main business units: Digital Appliance Business, Digital Media Business, LCD Business, Semiconductor Business and Telecommunication Network Business. Recognized as one of the fastest growing global brands, Samsung Electronics is a leading producer of digital TVs, memory chips, mobile phones, and TFT-LCDs. For more information, please visit www.samsung.com.

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Originally Posted By: KWhite

TI Unveils Breakthrough DLP(R) HDTV Innovations With LED Technology and New Chipsets at 2006 International CES
Thursday January 5, 6:05 am ET
DLP(R) HDTVs Lead Microdisplay Category, Dominate 1080p Sales


LAS VEGAS, Jan. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Texas Instruments (NYSE: TXN - News; TI) at 2006 International CES today announced technology innovations that will drive industry-leading DLP® HDTV technology to new, ground-breaking levels of picture quality, and more affordable solutions for manufacturers and ultimately consumers. With the introduction of a new DLP HDTV solution that supports LED light sources, and new HDTV chipsets with BrilliantColor(TM) color processing technology, consumers will benefit from even more high- quality viewing choices from DLP HDTV manufacturers.
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Samsung will ship the first commercially available DLP HDTV with an LED light engine in 2006. The integration of highly-efficient LED technology for DLP HDTVs offers the ability to display a wider NTSC color gamut at approximately 130%. The unit also provides Instant On/Off functionality, and expands DLP technology's leadership in Samsung's high performance HDTV solutions. LED light sources unshackle the inherent speed advantage of DLP technology and increase the color refresh rate to 48x the standard TV frame rate, further accelerating DLP technology's speed leadership position and providing the best TV technology solution for watching fast motion sports and video games. Samsung expects to begin shipping these sets by mid-2006.

To continue offering consumers the best visual experience at an affordable price, TI is introducing two new chipsets: the .45" 720p DLP chip and the .65" 1080p DLP chip. Both chipsets feature BrilliantColor(TM) technology optimized for DLP HDTV applications to extend DLP color processing from 3 colors up to 6 colors, increasing the number of producible color shades to an astonishing 200 trillion, and providing an up to 50% total screen brightness increase. This translates to incredible new levels of color saturation and overall image enhancement from very affordable chipsets, allowing manufacturers to maintain the DLP HDTV price advantage on large screen TVs for years to come.

DLP HDTV technology is leading the industry in maximum-HD 1080p resolution as the number one selling 1080p TV technology in 2005, according to The NPD Group. 1080 resolution is the high-definition standard which content is moving towards, from broadcast standards to gaming devices such as Xbox 360, to the HD-DVD standard supported by TI. DLP was also the number one microdisplay technology used by TV manufacturers in 4Q05 through November (Source: The NPD Group).

"We strive to provide our customers with performance innovations, while also continuing to ensure a price competitive solution for the market," said Adam Kunzman, Business Manager, DLP HDTV Products, Texas Instruments. "Ultimately, it is about delivering the best HDTV at an unmatched value for the consumer, and DLP is determined to win against plasma."

CES attendees can experience DLP 1080p technology for both TV and front projection applications at TI DLP Products booth #8602 in the Central Hall.

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Here is a link to the Zeiss website. The "Highest Resolution" chip/projection unit they are calling the xHD5 (memories of CES05). There is also information on the LED Projection at the same site.

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HP also announced a LED light source DLP RP display.

I'll have to go drudge up the thread on LED lamps that I participated in several months ago! So much for the naysayers! The big question is...how bright are these displays?
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Here is a link to the Zeiss website. The "Highest Resolution" chip/projection unit they are calling the xHD5 (memories of CES05). There is also information on the LED Projection at the same site.

UCSB, THANKS for starting up this thread. I know it will be well maintained!

That is a great link and I guess we will be using the term xHD5 to describe this years .65" DLP chip, from Zeiss site:

DLP Optical Module - specification

> xHD5
> 1080p
> full HDTV resolution
> 0.65" DMD panel

based on Carl Zeiss patented Field Lens Design

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That is a great link and I guess we will be using the term xHD5 to describe this years .65" DLP chip, from Zeiss site:

DLP Optical Module - specification

> xHD5
> 1080p
> full HDTV resolution
> 0.65" DMD panel

Thanks Bill for the update. A couple of questions (for anyone):

1. Is the 0.65" panel larger than the current 2005 TI chips?

2. By "Full HDTV Resolution", does that mean the xHD5 has 1920x1080 mirrors or is it wobulated?

3. Is the LED light source integrated into the engine, or is it separate and removable/replaceable after the ~20K hour lifespan?

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Here is a press release from TWICE ... it outlines the DLP product line for 2006:

Samsung Stresses Strong Features In HDTV Line

By Greg Tarr -- TWICE, 12/28/2005 11:10:00 AM

Las Vegas Samsung will use International CES to showcase its revised step-up television direction for 2006, which will continue to stress picture quality, design and 1,080p capability in select models.


Jim Sanduski, senior VP of Samsung's digital video and audio products group, said the company will continue to "play strongly" in the plasma, LCD, DLP and direct-view CRT categories, where it is a core technology supplier.




"We are closely following the consumer trends that seem to be favoring thin-panel products, and we are focusing on the value-added segments of all four display categories," he said.


Samsung continues to implement ATSC tuning in accordance with the Federal Communications Commission's ATSC tuner schedule, but it has stepped back somewhat from last year's more expansive Digital Cable Ready (DCR) product offerings, by reserving the capability for premium series products.


All sets 25-inches and larger in 2006 will incorporate ATSC/NTSC tuning.


Samsung will counter the invasion of low-cost flat-panel products flooding the market with product lines stressing high quality performance and carefully selected feature packages, Sanduski said.


In LCD TV, Samsung will emphasize models with 26W-inch and above screen sizes. Screen sizes will include one 15-inch model, one 20-inch model, two 23W-inch models, three 26W-inch models, five 32W-inch models, five 40W-inch models, one 46W-inch model and one 82W-inch factory statement piece.


The company will offer 1,920 by 1,080p resolution in 40W-inch, 46W-inch and 82W-inch LCD models in 2006, said Sanduski.


New for 2006 is a design line in the 23W-inch, 26W-inch and 32W-inch screen sizes. Models feature a V-shaped design and high-gloss white or black cabinet colors.


Sanduski said the new look is expected to have special "appeal to women because it goes beyond the typical black" bezel style. The series code named Bordeaux will add a fourth line, positioned between the core and premium lines, to Samsung's LCD TV assortment in 2006.


In many LCD models this year, Samsung will move from one HDMI input in 2005 to two HDMI inputs, and will add to all 23W-inch and larger models a new Game Mode feature, which eliminates image delay by bypassing video processing circuitry for "near instantaneous response" from video game controller to screen. In addition, the mode enhances sound and boosts detail in dark areas.


Samsung will also add a musical
interface in select 26W-inch and 32W-inch models to allow connection via optional cables to either an Apple iPod or a Samsung MP3 player to listen to music through the TV set or connected home theater system. The connection allows operation of the music player via the television's remote control.


Samsung's premium series LCD models in the 32W-inch, 40W-inch and 46W-inch screen sizes will use a new Super-Patterned Vertical Alignment (S-PVA) panel, which increases the horizontal viewing angle to 178 degrees while improving color gamut reproduction from 72 percent to 92 percent. The technology will add about a $200 price premium to unit cost, Sanduski said.


In plasma television, recent price declines have made it possible for the company to shift emphasis from lower-priced EDTV models to HDTV-grade models in 2006.


The new line will include seven HDTV models and only two EDTV 42W-inch pieces. The HD line breaks down to three 42W-inch HDTVs, three 50W-inch HDTVs and a 63W-inch HDTV the latter will sell for around $10,000 when it ships in February, down from about $15,000 in 2005. The company will continue to offer its 80W-inch model as a very limited distribution product, Sanduski said.


Samsung will introduce throughout its step-up plasma TV lines an industry-first feature called FilterBright, which applies a special film inside the screen to enable the contrast to "hold up well" (triple conventional contrast ratios) in well-lit environments, Sanduski said.


Plasma models are positioned in premiere, core and premium classifications, with premiere (entry) level product featuring one HDMI input, while core line models add a second HDMI input and FilterBright technology. Premium models add to that digital CableCARD slots.


In DLP microdisplay rear-projection televisions, emphasis will be on the 50W-inch and larger screen sizes, while making models with full 1080p resolution "more mainstream than they were in 2005," Sanduski said.


DLP screen sizes again in 2006 will range for 42W inches to 71W inches.


In total, Samsung will offer seven models with 1,080p resolution in the 50W-inch, 56W-inch, 61W-inch, 67W-inch and 71W-inch screen sizes in 2006. The price premium for 1,080p will drop from $1,000 in 2005 to $500 in the DLP line, Sanduski said. On average, pricing will be about $750 lower than 2005 MAP levels on 1,080p models.


Starting with shipments in mid-second quarter, Samsung will refresh 1,080p models with HDMI inputs capable of accepting native 1,080p signals, Sanduski said.


The highlight of the 1,080p DLP offerings will be one of the industry's first to employ an LED light engine, Sanduski said, which will replace the conventional Ultra High Pressure (UHP) lamp. The technology will extend bulb life from about 6,000 hours to around 20,000 hours while maintaining consistent brightness levels throughout the life of the bulb.


In addition, LED will increase color gamut reproduction by greater than 100 percent of NTSC, Sanduski said. Turn-on time will also be shortened from 30 seconds for UHP to seven for LED.


The 56W-inch 1,080p LED set will carry a $1,000 price premium over similarly featured UHP models.


In 720p DLP, screen sizes will include 42W inches, 50W inches, 56W inches and 61W inches. Pricing on 720p models will average $200 to $300 lower than 2005 MAP levels, Sanduski said. The company will continue to offer derivative models in the 56W-inch and 61W-inch screen sizes for different distribution channels.


Other features include the aforementioned Game Mode and a USB input coupled with embedded media manager software to play JPEG pictures and digital music files through the TV or home theater system.


In direct-view CRT TV products, the company is expanding its SlimFit line of thin-cabinet CRT products with a just-launched 27-inch model joining 24- and 30W-inch models.


The 27-inch and 30W-inch models feature integrated ATSC tuning and HDMI inputs, while the 480i 24-inch model offers only an NTSC tuner and component video inputs.


Sanduski said Samsung will exit the 32-inch flat screen CRT business in 2006 as it shifts its emphasis in the category to SlimFit products.

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That is a great link and I guess we will be using the term xHD5 to describe this years .65" DLP chip, from Zeiss site:

DLP Optical Module - specification

> xHD5
> 1080p
> full HDTV resolution
> 0.65" DMD panel

based on Carl Zeiss patented Field Lens Design

if you look around the site you'll see there is a 2nd DLP optical Module ... mid range I would say

> LED xHD4
>1080p
>full HDTV resolution
>0.85" DMD panel
>based on Carl Zeiss patented Field Lens Design

its made for screen sizes 46-54" where as the xHD5 is made for 50-72" screens

really looking forward to seeing a xHD4 model soon in a 46" size anything bigger will be too large for my room
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Samsung's ICES 2006 webpage has just gone "live". Not a lot of information there yet, but they will be adding to it. Go to www.samsung.com and then click on the graphic for ICES 2006.

The following is a snippit from the Samsung press release regarding the new DLP's:

New DLPs in both 720p and 1080p offer large screens and modern styling

Samsung's new 720p new DLP televisions at 61, 56 and 50 DLP televisions feature integrated true HD tuners, enhanced digital connectivity and a new design. The new models will be available in March at prices ranging from $2,299 to $3,099.

In addition, new 1080p DLPs at 61, 56 and 50 fit seamlessly into almost any living room with a slim profile and sleek hidden speaker design. Sophisticated glossy black finish, Cinema Smooth Gen 7 Exclusive Light Engine, and dual-HDMI inputs round out the package. These will be available in April at prices ranging from $2,899 to $3,599.

Finally, the first ever LED light sourced DLP rear projection HDTV, the HL-S5679W, replaces a UHP bulb with a highpowered LED light source. This offers significantly improved longevity, increased color gamut reproduction, quicker turn-on time, and greater environmental friendliness. The HL-S5679W will be available in April at $4,199.
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Originally Posted By: okbyme in the 2005 Samsung thread, source Samsung site.

Las Vegas, NV - Samsung, the market and technology leader in DLP micro-display panels advances high definition television viewing with its 7th generation line of high-end 1080p models. The new 87 Series DLPs - the 61" HL-S6187W, 56" HL-S5687 and the 50" HL-S5087W -- feature a sleek new design and Samsung's revolutionary DACS speaker system, at more affordable prices. See Samsung's complete DLP lineup during CES 2006 at the Samsung booth, #11033 in the Central Hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center from January 5th - 8th.

"As a market leader in the high definition television technology, Samsung continues to innovate and expand the horizons of DLP panel technology and design. Our new 87 Series DLPs feature 1920 x 1080p picture quality, superior sound systems and advanced digital connectivity price points that make it even more attractive for consumers to enjoy all the benefits of a 1080P resolution HDTV," said Dan Schinasi, Senior Marketing Manager for Projection TV for Samsung Electronics America. "These new DLPs have new features that address the unique needs of the exploding video game market and the growing trend toward high definition digital devices."

Samsung's 87 Series DLP TVs make the luxury home theater experience more affordable and feature-rich than ever. The 7th generation DLPs fit seamlessly into almost any living room with a slim profile and sleek "hidden" speaker design. Samsung's breakthrough DACS (Dedicated Acoustic Chamber Speakers) feature dual dedicated acoustic chambers for low-range, separate mid/high-range speakers, and a robust 10 Watt x 2 audio system. With their sophisticated glossy black finish, and 61", 56" and 50" screen sizes, the 87 Series DLPs are the perfect complement to even the most stylish home décor.

The 50" HL-S5687W, 56" HL-S5687W, and the 61" HL-S6187W feature the latest Texas Instruments DLP chip for true HD 1920 x 1080p HDTV images. The 1080p DLPs offer the ultimate in picture performance with an ultra high contrast ratio of 10,000:1 with superb brightness. The Cinema Smooth Gen 7 Exclusive Light Engine creates a picture with no visible pixel structure for a captivating, theater-quality experience. Samsung's Digital Natural Image Engine (DNIe) optimizes the picture from any input signal. The built-in HDTV-ATSC tuner with Cable CARD permits using the TV's remote control to surf the world of digital cable and digital cable HDTV.

Samsung's 87 Series DLP models feature the latest digital connectivity enhancements. Game Mode gives video game aficionados their most sought after features such as enhanced response time and improved sound quality, in addition to dark area and game graphic enhancements. And the 1080p input capability lets consumers experience the best possible signal transfer currently available when connecting other high definition peripherals such as DVD players. Two HDMI inputs allow high quality connections with other HD devices, optimizing sound and picture reproduction through simultaneous transmission of audio and video signals over one wire. Users can connect easily to a notebook or computer through the PC-input. And a USB 1.1 connection with photo viewer lets consumers connect cameras and other storage devices to display photos on screen in cinematic high definition.

The 50" HL-S5087W, ($2,899 MSRP), 56" HL-S5687W ($3,199 MSRP) and 61" HL-S6187W ($3,599 MSRP) will be available in April 2006.

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so will the The 50" HL-S5087W, ($2,899 MSRP) support true native 1080p resolution through HDMI?
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Originally Posted By: okbyme in the 2005 Samsung thread, source Samsung site.

Las Vegas, NV - Samsung, the market and technology leader in DLP micro-display panels advances high definition television viewing with its 7th generation line of high-end 1080p models. The new 87 Series DLPs - the 61" HL-S6187W, 56" HL-S5687 and the 50" HL-S5087W -- feature a sleek new design and Samsung's revolutionary DACS speaker system, at more affordable prices. See Samsung's complete DLP lineup during CES 2006 at the Samsung booth, #11033 in the Central Hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center from January 5th - 8th.

"As a market leader in the high definition television technology, Samsung continues to innovate and expand the horizons of DLP panel technology and design. Our new 87 Series DLPs feature 1920 x 1080p picture quality, superior sound systems and advanced digital connectivity price points that make it even more attractive for consumers to enjoy all the benefits of a 1080P resolution HDTV," said Dan Schinasi, Senior Marketing Manager for Projection TV for Samsung Electronics America. "These new DLPs have new features that address the unique needs of the exploding video game market and the growing trend toward high definition digital devices."

Samsung's 87 Series DLP TVs make the luxury home theater experience more affordable and feature-rich than ever. The 7th generation DLPs fit seamlessly into almost any living room with a slim profile and sleek "hidden" speaker design. Samsung's breakthrough DACS (Dedicated Acoustic Chamber Speakers) feature dual dedicated acoustic chambers for low-range, separate mid/high-range speakers, and a robust 10 Watt x 2 audio system. With their sophisticated glossy black finish, and 61", 56" and 50" screen sizes, the 87 Series DLPs are the perfect complement to even the most stylish home décor.

The 50" HL-S5687W, 56" HL-S5687W, and the 61" HL-S6187W feature the latest Texas Instruments DLP chip for true HD 1920 x 1080p HDTV images. The 1080p DLPs offer the ultimate in picture performance with an ultra high contrast ratio of 10,000:1 with superb brightness. The Cinema Smooth Gen 7 Exclusive Light Engine creates a picture with no visible pixel structure for a captivating, theater-quality experience. Samsung's Digital Natural Image Engine (DNIe) optimizes the picture from any input signal. The built-in HDTV-ATSC tuner with Cable CARD permits using the TV's remote control to surf the world of digital cable and digital cable HDTV.

Samsung's 87 Series DLP models feature the latest digital connectivity enhancements. Game Mode gives video game aficionados their most sought after features such as enhanced response time and improved sound quality, in addition to dark area and game graphic enhancements. And the 1080p input capability lets consumers experience the best possible signal transfer currently available when connecting other high definition peripherals such as DVD players. Two HDMI inputs allow high quality connections with other HD devices, optimizing sound and picture reproduction through simultaneous transmission of audio and video signals over one wire. Users can connect easily to a notebook or computer through the PC-input. And a USB 1.1 connection with photo viewer lets consumers connect cameras and other storage devices to display photos on screen in cinematic high definition.

The 50" HL-S5087W, ($2,899 MSRP), 56" HL-S5687W ($3,199 MSRP) and 61" HL-S6187W ($3,599 MSRP) will be available in April 2006.


So yet again they are confusing everyone with the nomenclature? The HLS xxx7 series are now the 1080p TVs and the HLS xxx9 are the ones with the new LED light source? What happens to the xxx8 numbering? And how come the HLS are so much cheaper than the HLR xxx8 series??

Damn - how do I keep buyer's remorse out?
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so will the The 50" HL-S5087W, ($2,899 MSRP) support true native 1080p resolution through HDMI?

Ah. Don't you love marketing hype...

The press release did say the sets would accept 1080p but not EXACTLY where...

"1080p input capability lets consumers experience the best possible signal transfer currently available when connecting other high definition peripherals such as DVD players.

Two HDMI inputs allow high quality connections with other HD devices, optimizing sound and picture reproduction through simultaneous transmission of audio and video signals over one wire."

Doesn't SPECIFICALLY say that HDMI has 1080p60 input. We can assume they mean 1080p60 over HDMI but I'd like to see a more technical description.
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Ah. Don't you love marketing hype...

Doesn't SPECIFICALLY say that HDMI has 1080p60 input. We can assume they mean 1080p60 over HDMI but I'd like to see a more technical description.

Agreed not clear that it is not connected to the gaming section which could imply only VGA.

I'm still more than a little concerned on the 1080i scaling quality and that doesn't seem to be addressed. I do like the black cabinet though.

If Sony would loose the elephant ears on the 60" SXRD and state 1080P input on HDMI I'd be gone till then I'm still holding out.
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I'm still more than a little concerned on the 1080i scaling quality and that doesn't seem to be addressed.

I think my 2005 6168 does a fine job in scaling to 1090p. The set uses the Xilleon 226 chip. If the 2006 sets use the same chip, I would expect similar results.
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Technically, doesnt the HLR series offer 1080p input via VGA? It would definately be nice to have 1080P input via HDMI however...

And FWIW, remember the ship dates promised by Samsung last year, and when the untis actually got in the hands of consumers.
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Interesting. So sounds like DNIe will be enabled on the VGA too, but a Game mode for all inputs. I'll definately be checking Samsung out again once these become available.
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Interesting. So sounds like DNIe will be enabled on the VGA too, but a Game mode for all inputs. I'll definately be checking Samsung out again once these become available.

According to the circuit diagram in the service manual for my 6168, the VGA input enters the circuit after the DNle so it can't affect that input. But you are right that the press release for the 2006 models says, "any input"!
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Yes, for the current models DNIe is not enabled for VGA. If you go into the SM, all of the settings are "default", but changing any of them has no affect.
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CNET has a photo of the HL-S5679W LED - Looks nice.

http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-641...ml?tag=ltstimg

Samsung 65F8000, 60D8000, 40HU6350, Panasonic 50E60 LCD's
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Samsung has added to their CES 2006 coverage on their web site. Go to www.samsung.com and click on the CES 2006 picture on their home page. This will take you to their CES coverage. Once there click on press releases. There are press releases for the new LED DLP, 1080p DLPs, and 720p DLPs. If you click on download when reading a press release you will get a zip file with the press release and some very nice high resolution photos of each TV.

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CNET has a photo of the HL-S5679W LED - Looks nice.

http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-641...ml?tag=ltstimg

Thanks for the link. The new 5679 appears to have a cabinet that is identical to the current 78 series, except is all black. The black appears to be a matte finish, which is good.

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Interesting bit from the press release on the 720p line -- it has a 5-segment color wheel:
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Featuring Samsung's new slim bezel design, the 61" HL-S6186W, 56" HL-S5686W and the HL-S5086W add a glamorous new dimension of style to any home. The 86 Series DLPs feature true-HD 1280 x 720 progressive resolution, with an HD5 DMD Chip and a 5-segment color wheel with Brilliant Color algorithm for advanced picture quality.

Since it's using BrilliantColor, I wonder what colors are used in the wheel?
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Any pictures, more data from CES?
What are the dimensions for the new 87 series?
Especially the 50" one. How big is it?
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Interesting bit from the press release on the 720p line -- it has a 5-segment color wheel:

Since it's using BrilliantColor, I wonder what colors are used in the wheel?

For an explaination of BrillantColor by TI go here: Introducing BrilliantColor Technology.
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For an explaination of BrillantColor by TI go here: Introducing BrilliantColor Technology.

Thanks for the link. I'd read about BC on other threads but they mostly talked about adding all three secondary colors (CYM) to the wheel. This paper indicates that the 5-color wheel contains RGB+CY. It'll be interesting to see how this design affects the rainbow effect.
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From right to left, new LED HLS5679W, then the new 1080p standard lamp units.

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