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Hitachi 65F710A good tv to buy or no?? Hardly any reviews on this tv. Does the Hitachi (smaller model) 57F710A have a better picture than the 65? Good TV, bad TV?? Ups and downs of Hitachi?? Do these hitachi model have awesome picture or is it lacking compared to other rear projection HD models??
Please any advice and info would be greatly appreciative.
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Yes, I would like to know also as I am trying to decide between the $1800 Hitachi 65F710A and $2300 Mitsubishi WS65517. I don't trust the new technologies yet after being an early adopter of a Toshiba 65H80. Nothing is wrong with the Toshiba, but would like to have a more feature rich and mature HD CRT RP. I have asked this same question in other threads here also. Here are links to the pdf files for both TVs, maybe this will help as I am leaning toward the Hitachi.

Mitsubishi WS65517
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/televis...ils.asp?id=186

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http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/proj.../65F710A.shtml
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I have the 65710a and it has a great picture, but I have lip sync issues with the HD OTA reception. Also the screen has quite a bit of glare
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Glare is definitely a problem. Some members have removed the anti-glare screen and reported much better picture. I have not.

SD with the 57F710A is excellent. Of course HD is great too but since there is still so much programming in SD it's important that it look good.

You might want to wait till April for the new Hitachi CRTs.

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So what is the best HD rear projection 57 to 65 in.???
Im looking for awesome picture and sound.
By the sounds of it Hitachi is a no.
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"By the sounds of it Hitachi is a no"

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060105/20060105005057.html?.v=1

I **was** leaning toward the Hitachi 57F710A but now I am going to wait for the new 57F59 both because I won't be ready to move into my new house until Sept or Oct and because the new model will have an "upconvert" feature to take an SD input to 1080i

DLP is said to be a better picture, but is more expensive AND you have to replace the bulb every couple of years, at $300 or so
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I think that I will stick it out and get a 65F59. Only a few months to go.
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I'm considering a CRT based model as a temporary 2-3 year solution until the microdisplay options are a little more seasoned and fine-tuned and more content becomes HD. I was leaning heavily towards the DLP camp. The new 1080p DLP sets are impressive, but still need a few kinks ironed.

I've waited a while already before making any type of HDTV jump. I'm currently doing my viewing on an old 20" screen from about 11', so any type of unit is going to be an improvement. The old unit is also on it's last legs, so I'm going to need something pretty soon.

So the new rumbling in my mind is:
  • Approx $1,000 for a CRT based solution for the next 2-3 years
  • Approx $3,500+ for today's 1080p DLP solution

Decisions decisions....


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My original choice was between Toshiba and Hitachi...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=650677

...with Sony as an "outside" possibility (about $400 more for same size)

But that quickly dropped to Hitachi only when I found out that both the Toshiba and Sony models I was considering were no longer being made

I also do not want to buy DLP due to cost and "newness" of the technology (I just sold a house and left behind a 55" Toshiba [4:3 CRT screen] and was very happy with it for 6 years) as well as the high cost of a new bulb every couple of years

Now that the new Hitachi 57F59 is going to have the "upconvert" function to display the SD input as 1080i on screen, the same as the Toshiba that is no longer being made, my choice has boiled down to just that one brand/model

If something else "better" (same or better features at less $$) comes on the market before my new house is built and I'm ready to move in (late Sept or early Oct) I will reconsider... but for now, my choice is the Hitachi 57F59
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I think that I will stick it out and get a 65F59. Only a few months to go.

Good idea. Boy, that is one hell of a bargain.

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the new model will have an "upconvert" feature to take an SD input to 1080i

The current models have this feature also, it's called Virtual HD and will convert any input (other than HDMI) to 1080i or 540p. Just an FYI for those deciding between the two series. So far, after 2 months, I'm very happy with my 51F710A.
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I won't be ready to buy until Sept anyway, so will wait for the new model at $200 less, but if I was planning to buy NOW the lack of information on their web site would have steered me to some other brand

I even used their request form and asked about the current model, and the reply I received said NO they do not upconvert... obviously their support staff does not know what they are doing!

My current list of purchase options (subject to anything new + better by Sept) is narrowed to one model, Hitachi 57F59... in spite of their staff not knowing the features of what they sell
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The current models have this feature also, it's called Virtual HD and will convert any input (other than HDMI) to 1080i or 540p. Just an FYI for those deciding between the two series. So far, after 2 months, I'm very happy with my 51F710A.

I agree, when watching hd programming, PQ is amazing. So far, I'm very impressed with my 51F710A. I'd like to see the new models when they become available just to compare.
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I have the 65F710 and love the PQ and as far the lip sync part, I believe that has to do more with the station and not the TV. My Tv has thes same prob on HD OTA but only on the WB and its only once in awhile. One problem the 65F710's have is that the audio output on the TV doesn't work. I had my xbox hd A/V connected to one of the inputs then the TV audio out to my stereo...but no sound. So I'm forced to have my xbox audio directly to the stereo. Don't know if this is fixed in the 710a version. For me, its a minor defect for the great PQ and options i get with it...especially at $1799. It does have the virtual HD upconverter.
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So what user settings do you have your tv's adjusted to?
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I have to reply and say this in one great tv. Ive had my 51f710s since nov 05 along with a toshiba upconverting dvd player and the picture is great. Sd cable is watchable, sd satellite is good, upconverted dvd is very good. But the built in ota tuner and hd xbox 360 are outstanding with very crisp and bright vibrant colours without the hint of scan lines, these hitachi crt's are one of the best bang for the buck tv's on the market.
Ive been lurking on these forums for 2 years before I finally made my purchase and I went out looking for a plasma or dlp but came home with this instead and I do not regret it one bit. Sorry for the rant but these tv's dont get much pub around here. Oh and one last thing my sons and I have been gaming in this tv at least 2 to 3 hours per day and no signs ov burn in whatsoever, just have to watch normal programing along with gaming and calibrate the torch factory settings and youre all set.
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Just bought a Hitachi 65F710 what is ultimate burn it time before I get the 65F710 ISF Calibrated ?

Was going to wait for the new Hitachi 65F59, but with no updated news on the F59's, I could not past up a really good (but not great) price with free shipping and no tax on the 65F710

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After going round and round on what TV technology to buy, I have decided on the new Hitachi 51F59 that comes out in April,

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Are you sure the F59 is coming out in April ? I have my doubts.
I wrote Hitachi before I bought the 710 last week, and the email I got back said no info available. And that's on something that suppose to hit the street in a few weeks ? ................I don't know

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I do not have any updated info on the release date, I was just going by their January press release.
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I was in Circuit City yesterday and they have the F59 series in there system now showing the MSRP as their price. This makes me think that they will be released next month.
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that's good to hear

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The current models have this feature also, it's called Virtual HD and will convert any input (other than HDMI) to 1080i or 540p. Just an FYI for those deciding between the two series. So far, after 2 months, I'm very happy with my 51F710A.

I have the 51M200 and with HDMI to DVI I have the option for 540P or 1080I when a 480I or 480P signal is sent to the tv. right now I have the H20 (directv reciever) set to 480I HDMI out od SD material and the SD picture is really impressive. Hd at 1080I is really nice...of course.

Factory settings are horrible....out of the box you'll want to turn down contrast, sharpness, brightness,etc. turn off Black and edge enhancement. And many other tweeks. has nice stretch modes for 4:3 material (4:3 expanded is pretty good with "plumpiness" not noticable in the screen's center.

my previous HDTV died so I had to buy something asap.
For $999 delivered, I wanted to get something to last for 2-4 years when this 1080P stuff all shakes out.

I think for rear projection CRT's the Mits, Hitachi's and Toshiba's are your best bets. i went with the Hitachi's after extensive research and $$$$...I wanted the Mits, but the "same" TV was about $500-$600 more.

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I have the 51M200 and with HDMI to DVI I have the option for 540P or 1080I when a 480I or 480P signal is sent to the tv. right now I have the H20 (directv reciever) set to 480I HDMI out od SD material and the SD picture is really impressive. Hd at 1080I is really nice...of course.

How do hook this up? I have the H20 receiver as well but I'm using just the HDMI cable. SD looks ok I guess. HD looks fantastic! How do I get the SD channels to look good?
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Seems not many owners to the F710A series. Seems great rating so far for it.
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How do hook this up? I have the H20 receiver as well but I'm using just the HDMI cable. SD looks ok I guess. HD looks fantastic! How do I get the SD channels to look good?

Sorry for the delay in responding. When you say "how do you hook this up?" I assume you mean set up the output format? Go into settings on the H20 and then to TV set up and then you go into the view mode...I have it set to "stretch" then I go to resolution and set to native 480I/1080I and then I am done. SD material looks excellent.....especially cartoons... and most sd stations. hd on this box looks very good, however, I think the TS360 had a slightly better HD PQ...that's just my opinion and based only by what I see....Unscientificly, of course.

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Wonder many people picked this unit up this past weekend with a sale over the weekend?

If so had it not been on sale would people have purchased this unit?

Anyone know the difference between the 700S vs 700A?
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I was wondering what the difference was also between the 710S and 710A and how do they differ from the S715? Thanks
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I was wondering what the difference was also between the 710S and 710A and how do they differ from the S715? Thanks

I seem to recall someone suggesting different stores use different letters at the end in an attempt to avoid price-matching. I believe the example was CC putting "A" at the end and Sears using "S".

That information could be utterly false though.
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My 65F710A got here today and this thing is a MONSTER 375 POUNDS. this big truck pulls up and one skinny guy get out. I look at him, he looks at me and I say "Where's your partner?" He says I'm it. (I see him sizing me up to see if I got what it takes to help him carry). I say, "I'm not helping you left that thing 8 steps into my house................You can forget that." He's says he don't thinK two guys can do it "safely" anyways. I agree, I'm not knocking my new CRT up 8 steps. He calls his boss and tells him this is at least a 3 man job. His boss says uecweb.com only pays for a one man Delivery.

How can one man do a "Delivery inside the entrance door" of a 375 pound TV ?

So after two weeks I'm still waiting to get my TV. uecweb.com and the Delivery people are talking about who's going to pay $185 for two more guys...........Me or uecweb.com. It's not going to be me.

On top of this I'm out of a days pay for staying home all day

The Joys of not buying local via B&M

Unbelievable

Another thing I just notice, uecweb.com is a 100% email only coustomer service. No Phone Number on their site. I learned my lesson about buying big ticket item none B&M...........never again

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Damn Jones07 let us know how it goes. Honestly by default it should have given you the shipping option of ONLY a 3 man job if that is in fact what it takes with this unit.

Also check their website, they may have a policy of you can refuse the delivery at the door. It may cost you shipping charges but at least you don't have to pay for the TV that you can't get in your house.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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