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post #361 of 21398 Old 05-03-2006, 10:16 AM
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ferrisg,

any suggestions on a good place onlien to buy optical cables?
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ferrisg,

any suggestions on a good place onlien to buy optical cables?

monoprice.com, without a doubt (as many here will tell you).
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Bill,

are these comparable to the cables at bluejeanscable.com?
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Bill,

are these comparable to the cables at bluejeanscable.com?

From all I've heard the bj cables are excellent; monoprice is just less expensive (and I, or anyone I've heard in these forums, have never had a problem with them).
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Hi all, I'm looking at possibly getting the "matching" stand for my 6188, and wondered if anybody has seen it at any brick&mortar stores yet. (bestbuy, sears, etc) Any sitings out there?
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Bill,

are these comparable to the cables at bluejeanscable.com?

I'd recommend monoprice.com as well. For the type of cable and length you're probably looking at there won't be any difference, and the monoprice cables are dirt cheap. The bluejeans prices aren't bad by any stretch, but it's really just not worth the extra money.
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[quote=pargoff]ferrisg,

any suggestions on a good place onlien to buy optical cables?[/QUOTE)

Monoprice is where i go.I have bought HDMI,Component,VGA,and M1 cables in 50 feet lenths.They work fantastic.Been to thier warehouse and the people are great to deal with.If your cable is not in stock,they restock every 30th of the month.

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I have the 5087 on order.
What cables does it come with?
Power Cord (I assume) ,
but what about component, or others?
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I have the 5087 on order.
What cables does it come with?
Power Cord (I assume) ,
but what about component, or others?

I believe that's all that Samsung provides you with. The $2K+ you're putting down for your TV is not enough to offset the cost for $5 cables.

They gotta eat too you know
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But just think of all the fun packing materials that will come with your set! You'll get a cardboard box, probably some styrofoam padding, maybe some shrink wrap, plastic bags, a twist tie or two. Who needs to watch HDTV when you've got all that stuff to play with?

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Received my 5687 yesterday! I can confirm that the only cable provided is a power cord. But they do include a handy-dandy screen cleaning cloth!

On another note, I have my HTPC connected at 1080p via HDMI, and it's working great!
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Received my 5687 yesterday! I can confirm that the only cable provided is a power cord. But they do include a handy-dandy screen cleaning cloth!

On another note, I have my HTPC connected at 1080p via HDMI, and it's working great!


yes, the cloth rules

got the same tv and cloth

too bad that wasn't on the spec sheet, I wonder if it is a biger cloth for the biger tv's??????????????
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Received my 5687 yesterday! I can confirm that the only cable provided is a power cord. But they do include a handy-dandy screen cleaning cloth!

On another note, I have my HTPC connected at 1080p via HDMI, and it's working great!


Is there any reason you did not use the VGA pc input? that should be able to do 1080p
I remember reading in the owners manual to not connect a pc using HDMI, never explained why though.

Im still waiting for my 5687 but if I can get 1080p over the VGA, it will free up one of the HDMI connectors.

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I purchased a hls6187 and it is scheduled to be delivered on Saturday. I have read through the forum and am very grateful for all of the reports and advise on these boards. I have two questions: 1) Is there a difference in PQ between the 61" 56" and 51". After getting home, I looked at the space where the TV will go (where my current 51" Toshiba 51H83 is), and realized that 56" would fill it almost as nicely as the 61". Thoughts?
2) Has anyone compared the difference between the xbox 360 component cables and VGA cables on this TV? What has been your experience?
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Is there any reason you did not use the VGA pc input? that should be able to do 1080p
I remember reading in the owners manual to not connect a pc using HDMI, never explained why though.

Im still waiting for my 5687 but if I can get 1080p over the VGA, it will free up one of the HDMI connectors.

Mike

The VGA output is analog, so the signal starts out digital in the HTPC, then converts to analog for VGA, and finally the TV has to convert back to digital to display the image. By using HDMI the signal stays in the digital domain; and some people report it's a cleaner look.
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: 1) Is there a difference in PQ between the 61" 56" and 51". After getting home, I looked at the space where the TV will go (where my current 51" Toshiba 51H83 is), and realized that 56" would fill it almost as nicely as the 61". Thoughts?

A 56 will be slightly sharper. Same number of pixels, just smaller. However, repeat after me, "Bigger is better!". I spent a bit of time looking at the HL-R 67 incher, and it looked very good.
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Agree: go with as large a set as will fit and you can afford. After a few months, you will wish you had gone bigger (believe me)!
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Hi all, I'm looking at possibly getting the "matching" stand for my 6188, and wondered if anybody has seen it at any brick&mortar stores yet. (bestbuy, sears, etc) Any sitings out there?

Saw it at BB yesterday and it looked like very well constructed. Wasnt as High Gloss a finish as i would have liked but ill still be picking it up when and if i go with the Samsung DLP. Someone had posted some pictures of it i think earlier in this thread or possibly one of the other Samsung threads. PM the guy and ask him what he thinks.
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Hi
I would like to know what height I need to make my custom TV stand. Can
any owners of the 5086/87 measure the length from the bottom of the TV to
the center of the TV screen.

I would like to have my eye level w/ the center of the screen.

Thanks
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Thanks for the input Richard in SF and millerwill, I was leaning toward the 56" if it had a sharper image because I thought that once I got it home, and it wasn't next to a larger television, I would never know the difference. Do you know if the difference between the two would be very great? If the difference between the two is negligible, then I would prefer the larger set. The larger would be very nice for playing multiplayer GRAW, and for watching the playoffs, NFL, March Madness, etc.

One follow up question: (this is random) is there anyone that has this TV that watches Law and Order on TNTHD? If so, how does it perform when displaying the dark scenes? On my current Toshiba you can hardly see what's going on, I have messed with the calibration and no matter what I do the picture is either too bright during the day scenes, or too dark during night/indoor scenes.
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Hi all, I'm looking at possibly getting the "matching" stand for my 6188, and wondered if anybody has seen it at any brick&mortar stores yet. (bestbuy, sears, etc) Any sitings out there?


Yeah...bought a stand for my new HLS6178W today. It is a TR50X3B, looks great w/ gloss to match the set and my Def Tech speakers. The construction is fair and is priced reasonable @ BB. These are made for Sammy's and look really nice. Waiting for my 6178 tomorrow. Hope it gets here early. It was a warranty replacement for a 3 and a half year old Toshiba 65" CRT. I am excited, but will miss the size of the Toshiba. BB must have quit selling big sets, the largest they have was a 62".
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Thanks for the input Richard in SF and millerwill, I was leaning toward the 56" if it had a sharper image because I thought that once I got it home, and it wasn't next to a larger television, I would never know the difference. Do you know if the difference between the two would be very great? If the difference between the two is negligible, then I would prefer the larger set. The larger would be very nice for playing multiplayer GRAW, and for watching the playoffs, NFL, March Madness, etc.

One follow up question: (this is random) is there anyone that has this TV that watches Law and Order on TNTHD? If so, how does it perform when displaying the dark scenes? On my current Toshiba you can hardly see what's going on, I have messed with the calibration and no matter what I do the picture is either too bright during the day scenes, or too dark during night/indoor scenes.


I watch Law & Order on TNTHD, & I experience the same problems on my HL-R5078W. I thought it was the TV. I've tried changing sub-brightness, and I've got only a slight improvement. I'm glad to find out that it's source related, not Samsung related.
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I purchased both my TV and Stand from Best Buy I loved the service they actually knew what they were talking about - the guys at CC didnt know PISS about the tv.

ok I made my post here is a link to the stand disasembled and put togethor I am goign to be taking alot more pics and cleaning up everything when the tv arrives (May 18th) but the stand is great ez to put togethor

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go with as large a set as will fit and you can afford.

...regardless of viewing distance?

I've been wrestling back and forth between the 50 and 56.. on one day, I"m sure that I'll get the 50. The next day, I can't help but wonder if I can get away with the 56.

by my calculations, the front of the tv will be about 7' from the front of my couch.
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Yeah I'm in the same boat. 8' to the front of the couch. Pre-ordered the S5687, but every day I wonder if I should change to the 50. Seems like a really big screen is going to be really close.
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...regardless of viewing distance?

I've been wrestling back and forth between the 50 and 56.. on one day, I"m sure that I'll get the 50. The next day, I can't help but wonder if I can get away with the 56.

by my calculations, the front of the tv will be about 7' from the front of my couch.

So the screen will be ~ ~9 ft from your eyes, right? I wouldn't try to tell anyone what size screen you want--you need to decide that for yourself. But with a 9 ft viewing distance, I think many people would find a 61" 1080p set very nice. I sit ~ 10.5 ft from a 73" 1080p set and find it very nice. The THX 'recommended' viewing distance is a viewing distance of ~ 1.5 x screen diagonal (i.e., 7.5 ft for a 60" = 5 ft diagonal screen), though this is for 'serious, emersive' movie-watching, rather than casual tv watching.

My comment was based on what many people say: at first the new screen seems enormous, but in a month or two they wish it were larger!
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Yeah I'm in the same boat. 8' to the front of the couch. Pre-ordered the S5687, but every day I wonder if I should change to the 50. Seems like a really big screen is going to be really close.

Stay with the 56". When I bought my 53" Sony they also had a 62" version for a few hundo more. I wanted the 62" but my wife insisted that it was too big. After re-evaluating my chances of "getting some" for the next few months I caved and got the 53". About three months later my wife and I were sitting there watching TV and she says "Ya know - we should have gotten the bigger one!!!!"

My point is as you get used to the set you will glad you went bigger. As more stuff becomes HD the seating distance thing goes away.

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Yeah I'm in the same boat. 8' to the front of the couch. Pre-ordered the S5687, but every day I wonder if I should change to the 50. Seems like a really big screen is going to be really close.

I have the same concern, not with my main viewing distance, which is 11 feet, but with my wing chairs being at 7-8 feet. After reading many members stating, "Bigger is better," I finally changed my order from a 5087 to a 5687. But I still kept having doubts, especially considering I would still be watching some SD content. So, I called TVA and in talking to Tiko he strongly recommended going with the 50". In fact, he recommends the 50" for up to 10-12'. I also sent PMs to several members who ordered the 50" (and one who ordered the 42") and one in particular said he had owned a larger set but was getting headaches from sitting too close. He was told this can happen due to the eyes trying to process all of the details of HD at such a short distance. I'm not trying to confuse you any further, but this is something to consider.

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djoberg: ... 10 to 12 ft from a 50" screen! And here I am watching a 73" set from ~ 10 ft and yearning for something BIGGER (and my eyesight is fine); thinking about a 120" front projection screen (though this would be viewed from ~ 12 ft since I gain the ~ 2 ft depth of the tv). It really is an individual thing!
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