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post #91 of 3326 Old 07-11-2006, 05:48 PM
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My 50E2000 says it has a QAM tuner which will allow me to receive unscrambled digital television via cable. Does this mean that I cannot use an over the air antenna to receive local HD signals?

No, all it means is that if you have cable it will tune unscrambled channels. The set also has an ATSC over-the-air digital tuner for use with the antenna. When you do the channel scan it will ask you if your using cable or antenna and will use the appropriate tuner.

OTA ATSC digital tuners are now required by law in any set 27" or over, even SD ones.

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I did just notice that, thats nice.

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Ok - I've had my 50E2000 for alittle over 3 weeks now.

A couple of observations.

- SHOP AROUND! I originally was interested in a A10 and wanted to purchase one. Looked at a number of stores including the usuals (BB, CC, Costco, etc). I then went to a local appliance shop. The Store Mgr. said finding an A10 would be difficult but he had one in another store....then....he offered me this deal. He said the E2000 was new and just available. After a bit of further talking, I got the E2000 with stand, with a 5yr warrantly (that includes bulbs), with free delivery out the door for $2,050! This was MUCH better than any of the others.

- Now that I've had a bit of time to play with a few settings and watch a few hours on it, I'm amazed at the PQ. This set rivals my neighbors 42" Samsung Plasma. We think it even looks better in some situations. We both have cable.
My SD cable channels look great...even better than my 43" Toshiba rear projection. I'm getting my local HD channels OTA through an antenna I placed in my attic. They look great. One feature that I think is great on this set is that the TV automatically adjust the picture size to the broadcast. My neighbors Plasma does not do this, and they have it always set to fill the screen.....seems like alot of clarity is lost. He's very disappointed that his set doesn't do this.

- There appears to be a slight red push but if you use the Neutral setting and it is minimized. I think the red push is a trademark of Sony as I have a Sony 707 digicam that also has a thing for red! Not sure if its the same as the A10 but I don't think its too bad.

- As to SDE...come on....if you are at least 10-12 feet away, its virtually non-existant.

- I also went out and bought a Monster HTS-1000. Again, SHOP AROUND. This is for sale at most stores for $149. I got a brand new in sealed package off of EBAY for less than 1/2. I did notice a slight improvement in PQ with this protector.

- Now, the fun part (or frustrating part for some). Playing with the settings. I know that settings are very subjective and based on personal preference. I find myself trying new settings all the time. I don't think there are really any 'best' settings as it really depends on what you are watching, how the program is taped/broadcast, and the brightness of the room. But.......below are what I found seems to look about the best for most.

Custom
Auto Iris 2
Picture = 78
Brightness = 48
Color = 62 *
Hue = default (sometimes G1)
Color Temp = Neutral (although for some sporting events, I like COOL)
Sharpness = 32

Advanced Settings
Black Corrector = Low (off makes the blacks look washed out, Med 'could' be ok in some instances but you seem to lose fine details)
Gamma = Low
Clear White = Off (sometime Low, I'm a bit uncertain as to what this really does)
Color Corrector = Off *

* I've played a bit with the Color Corrector. When its set to Low, I change my Color setting to 43....picture looks pretty much the same as when its off and Color is 62 so I now leave it off.

- Can someone educate my a bit as to all the talk about calibration disks....are they really worth it or should we just go with 'what looks good'? Since I always like to play with the set, I'll most likely try this route just to see what all the hoopla is about (and if it really makes a huge difference in how I have my settings today!)

- I have no real complaints with this set. Glad I got it over the Mitsu I was comparing it to! I guess my only complaint is maybe I should have held out for the 55 inch!!!! lol.

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Can somebody give a brief explanation of what the different wide/zoom modes do. And when I would want to use them?

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Good info. I have been looking at the 55". Will be using Cable HD box. What kind of accessories do you recommend? I saw your protector. Do I need HDMI cables and composite. Do you also recommend OTA antenna? Thanks
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Can somebody give a brief explanation of what the different wide/zoom modes do. And when I would want to use them?

Thanks

Speaking from use on previous sets; zoom can/should be used on widescreen movies w/ ratios other than 16:9 to eliminate black bars, and wide can be used to stretch 4:3 content to fill the entire 16:9 screen. I also believe that wide can only be used in 480p/i modes since 720p/1080i are 16:9 by default.

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I hate my Samsung DLP and I am about to pull the trigger on a KDF-46E2000
. Is 8.5 feet enough viewing distance to overcome the SDE?
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I exchanged my Samsung DLP for the 50E2000. The color wheel on my DLP died after just a few days.

I got to see the 50E2000 beside a 50A10, and the screen door effect, in my opinion, was noticably improved. This is just my opinion, others may disagree, but to me, it was improved at 4-5 feet, and could not be seen past 8-9 feet. I imagine a 46 would be that much better still because the screen is smaller. You should get yourself to a Circuit City or a Best Buy and have a look. It's kind of subjective, I think.
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55" and 50" are on display round here in New Jersey but no sighting of the 46" just yet.
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My 50E2000 says it has a QAM tuner which will allow me to receive unscrambled digital television via cable. Does this mean that I cannot use an over the air antenna to receive local HD signals?

It talks to you? Wow, now there's a new (and undocumented) feature! I'll bet that if you frame the question properly, it will also say that it has an ATSC tuner that will allow you to receive local off-air DTV signals.

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Checked at lunch today... CC had no 46, said they've never carried a 46 and not sure they will ever get them, sent me on my way(!) BB had all 3 new models (sweet.) I think they had the vivid mode on but the clean feed had me mesmerised anyway. Prices were list. I asked about a discount, the guy explained they don't do commission so no discounts unless there's a sale. (He was also happy to have me go on my way.)

Too bad mail order is so hazardous, I'm tempted to wait another week or two and maybe save some $.

Unfortunately, I'm mail ordering custom "rustic" furniture (required for WAF) and multiple delays have me suspicious of that order so I may need to cancel and seek out a non-modern (i.e. non-shiny wood) cabinet alternative that will hold at least the 46 (preferably the 50 if we go that way.) Suggestions welcome...

Tough coodinating all this since upgrading DirecTV to HD next week to replace failing Tivo and trying to figure out how to get the heavy old pine entertainment center (70x70x20) upstairs. :-)
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE 46 INCH IS IN STOCK AT CC.I ORDERED ONE LAST WEEK.THIS WEEKEND IT IS BEING DELIVERED.THE SALESMAN TOLD ME THEY HAVE 350 IN THEIE MAIN WHAREHOUSE.
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Checked at lunch today... CC had no 46, said they've never carried a 46 and not sure they will ever get them, sent me on my way(!) BB had all 3 new models (sweet.) I think they had the vivid mode on but the clean feed had me mesmerised anyway. Prices were list. I asked about a discount, the guy explained they don't do commission so no discounts unless there's a sale. (He was also happy to have me go on my way.)

Too bad mail order is so hazardous, I'm tempted to wait another week or two and maybe save some $.

Unfortunately, I'm mail ordering custom "rustic" furniture (required for WAF) and multiple delays have me suspicious of that order so I may need to cancel and seek out a non-modern (i.e. non-shiny wood) cabinet alternative that will hold at least the 46 (preferably the 50 if we go that way.) Suggestions welcome...

Tough coodinating all this since upgrading DirecTV to HD next week to replace failing Tivo and trying to figure out how to get the heavy old pine entertainment center (70x70x20) upstairs. :-)

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE 46 INCH IS IN STOCK AT CC.I ORDERED ONE LAST WEEK.THIS WEEKEND IT IS BEING DELIVERED.THE SALESMAN TOLD ME THEY HAVE 350 IN THEIE MAIN WHAREHOUSE.

Yeah, apparently it varies between regions/areas (or maybe even between stores.)
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Yeah, apparently it varies between regions/areas (or maybe even between stores.)

I know that stock does vary by area. CC here in Sacramento "special orders" the 46e2000 from the So-Cal wherehouse. They had ~50 instock as of last sunday, mine should be here this weekend I hope.
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I've been enjoying my 50E2000 for about 4 weeks now. I use the standard picture setting for my sources which are HD via TWC (8300HD DVR) and my Toshiba HD-A1 (HD DVD player). I use custom picture mode for watching DVDs during the day.

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Checked at lunch today... CC had no 46, said they've never carried a 46 and not sure they will ever get them, sent me on my way(!)

Too bad mail order is so hazardous, I'm tempted to wait another week or two and maybe save some $.

My local CC said the same thing. I'm going mail order right now b/c of the deal I found, and hopefully it turns out for the better *fingers crossed.* It should be here end of next week. I got the 50E2000. And BB does have a true HD feed to all their HD TV's.
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I just got the call, I'll have my 46e2000 in the morning
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Checked at lunch today... CC had no 46, said they've never carried a 46 and not sure they will ever get them, sent me on my way(!) BB had all 3 new models (sweet.) I think they had the vivid mode on but the clean feed had me mesmerised anyway. Prices were list. I asked about a discount, the guy explained they don't do commission so no discounts unless there's a sale. (He was also happy to have me go on my way.)

Too bad mail order is so hazardous, I'm tempted to wait another week or two and maybe save some $.

Unfortunately, I'm mail ordering custom "rustic" furniture (required for WAF) and multiple delays have me suspicious of that order so I may need to cancel and seek out a non-modern (i.e. non-shiny wood) cabinet alternative that will hold at least the 46 (preferably the 50 if we go that way.) Suggestions welcome...

Tough coodinating all this since upgrading DirecTV to HD next week to replace failing Tivo and trying to figure out how to get the heavy old pine entertainment center (70x70x20) upstairs. :-)

Which Best Buy in Jersey?
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Which Best Buy in Jersey?

East Brunswick.
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My 46e2000 will be delivered tomorrow morning.
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I just bought the 55E2000 and am thoroughly impressed and happy with the set.
I watched some baseball last night on INHD and drooled on myself.

My question is...
Are the optimal settings(grey scale, etc.) the same as the older A10.
I have found very detailed setups in that thread, but have yet to see any calibration for the E2000s.

Anyone?
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Looking through the manual I was unable to find out anything about the E2000's HDCP capability, if any. The set has two HDMI connections, are they HDCP compliant? Or would the manual make specific mention if it was HDCP compliant?
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My question is...
Are the optimal settings(grey scale, etc.) the same as the older A10.
I have found very detailed setups in that thread, but have yet to see any calibration for the E2000s.

Anyone?

I'm anxious to start hearing about this myself. unfortunately I think there are very few people who will own both an A10 and an E2000, and even less that will be doing any hardcore tweaking.

hopefully someone with some calibration expertise will come forward soon and start messing with settings on these bad boys. I think some of the calibration menus/ names have changed since the A10 (making a direct correlation that much more difficult). I personally won't be mucking about too much before someone else has had some time in there and posted here/ an E2000 tweaks thread.

Until then I will be playing with all the picture settings on a nightly basis
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Got my 46e2000 this morning and took some rushed pics before work. They dont do the set justice!

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Was that pincushion I saw in the 1st pic? Anyone else see it in theirs? Did the A10s have geometry issues? I hate pincushion!
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In the first picture the lines look curved. If that is what you mean by pincushion, then no, that is how it is supposed to look. That is the dashboard of the XBox 360, and it is meant to curve like that, kind of how the 360 case is curved.
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Good, because I hope to sell the Samsung in a couple of hours and will be picking up the Sony. I can't wait to have perfect geometry, quiet operation, and no more pixely green-blacks in the SD feed.
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Ah you'll love it. Are you getting the 46, 50 or 55? I have the 50E2000, and I have to say, now that Time Warner came and fixed my ingress, my SD content looks excellent on this set. Of course, the HD looks amazing too. No noticeable SDE, even sitting close, and minimal SSE (although it's definitely there). I do have a tiny bit of overscan with my 360 though.
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Didn't someone post the service menu code for our sets? I'm @ work right now, but I plan on going home tonight and adjusting for overscan.
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I was considering the 46, but the 50 is going for the same price at BB and CC.
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