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It sounds like everyone that follows the posts on cleaning their lens is having good luck doing this. I guess I will be the first one to say that I am not. I have followed everyones advice on how to do this, took it apart, cleaned it, put it back together, took my time, turned on the set and the picture come on for about three seconds and then goes off and the red light comes on flashing at me. I have tried resetting it but the same thing happens when I turn it back on.
Went back and checked all connections, no loose wires. Anyone have any ideas as to what may have gone wrong?
By the way, It is a WD-65831, 2 yrs old and on my 2nd lamp.
Any help will be appreciated.
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Feedback on using the bulb only and reinstalling it in the existing mounting box, vs the bulb coming already inside the mounting box (thingie?).

Are there any quality issues with the various bulb vendors?

Assuming I am very careful, don't touch the bulb with fingers, etc., that replacing it in the mounting box myself (and saving $100 or so in the process) works just as well as buying a bulb already mounted (example direct from Mits)?

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Feedback on using the bulb only and reinstalling it in the existing mounting box, vs the bulb coming already inside the mounting box (thingie?).

Are there any quality issues with the various bulb vendors?

Assuming I am very careful, don't touch the bulb with fingers, etc., that replacing it in the mounting box myself (and saving $100 or so in the process) works just as well as buying a bulb already mounted (example direct from Mits)?


Nothing wrong at all as long as you are buying the same Osram lamp as the original Mits part.

Some sellers like Acme and Bursma offer a 1 year warranty on the lamp, so not only are you saving a bunch, but getting a better warranty as well.

Yes, calibration is important...every user should be calibrated.

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When I ordered my warranty replacement bulb from Mits.com they sent me the whole unit. I was under the impression I would have to send the old one back. They did not take a credit card or mention sending the old one back.

Also if you do order a osram bulb regardless if it says 150/180 if the part number is even one letter off it will not fit. I had to use the dremel on my original housing so it would fit. The ebay listing gave the mits part number and said it fit.
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How do you reset the lamp hours after replacing the lamp?

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Feedback on using the bulb only and reinstalling it in the existing mounting box, vs the bulb coming already inside the mounting box (thingie?).

Are there any quality issues with the various bulb vendors?

Assuming I am very careful, don't touch the bulb with fingers, etc., that replacing it in the mounting box myself (and saving $100 or so in the process) works just as well as buying a bulb already mounted (example direct from Mits)?

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Nothing wrong at all as long as you are buying the same Osram lamp as the original Mits part.

Some sellers like Acme and Bursma offer a 1 year warranty on the lamp, so not only are you saving a bunch, but getting a better warranty as well.

I ordered a Lamp only from River Valley Electronics for $125 shipped, and got an Osram P-VIP 150-180/1.0 E22h (whats printed on the bulb).

I do not actually need to install it yet, I just wanted to have the spare on hand as my tv is approaching 2 years old.

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I don't beleive there is any way to reset that counter. Actually, as I have said before, you wouldn't want to. Just take note of the hours and date you replaced the lamp and attach it to the back of the set as a note. That counter is the hours the set has been running. A far better purpose that just a 'lamp' counter.

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Ok, thanks Bruce.

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Does anyone know where I can purchase the matching MB-57GB stand? My wife and I recently changed our room up and the stand we used does not fit well in the new setup. We have the WD-Y57/57732 and I am desperate. If anyone knows or if anyone is willing to sell one please email me at sdrew@charter.net or samdrew@us.ibm.com. My ebay rating is 100% with near 252 feedbacks so I am honest despite my newness to this forum (long time reader, first time poster).

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I’ve had my 57831 now for over 2 years.When I first got it it had an incredible picture.I had a replacement lamp covered under warranty in the 6th month.I noticed the picture was slowly fading so I just replaced the lamp again.Its much brighter now but I’m not happy with the picture now at all.Its OK as long as there isn’t any white or anything bright on the picture.The Tv is now straining my eyes and its driving me crazy.I can see a haze on the sceen whenever there is a bright screen.The blacks have no detail at all now.I’ve tried every setting imaginable and it doesn’t help.Blu-ray looks ok but not anywhere near as incredible that I’ve seen on other lcd and plasma sets.My 37″Magnavox lcd has a better picture with standard dvd than my blu-ray on this Mitsubishi.I’m going to sell this and go for a 50″Kuro or 58″Panasonic plasma.They have an incredible picture especially compared to the way this is looking lately.
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Tomrich, you probably need to call Mits and have them replace your light engine. Read this thread and the 1080p one for more information about this.
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I've had my 57831 now for over 2 years.When I first got it it had an incredible picture.I had a replacement lamp covered under warranty in the 6th month.I noticed the picture was slowly fading so I just replaced the lamp again.Its much brighter now but I'm not happy with the picture now at all.Its OK as long as there isn't any white or anything bright on the picture.The Tv is now straining my eyes and its driving me crazy.I can see a haze on the sceen whenever there is a bright screen.The blacks have no detail at all now.I've tried every setting imaginable and it doesn't help.Blu-ray looks ok but not anywhere near as incredible that I've seen on other lcd and plasma sets.My 37″Magnavox lcd has a better picture with standard dvd than my blu-ray on this Mitsubishi.I'm going to sell this and go for a 50″Kuro or 58″Panasonic plasma.They have an incredible picture especially compared to the way this is looking lately.

Check posts on "halos" and "blooming" regarding cleaning the lens(a diy project that works wonders).
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Tomrich, you probably need to call Mits and have them replace your light engine. Read this thread and the 1080p one for more information about this.

I'm well past the warranty and I think this TV will never look as good as the newer plasmas or lcd's.I'll probably just replace it,specially with the prices of the 50" Pioneer Kuro.
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I think this TV will never look as good as the newer plasmas or lcd's.

Enjoy watching your electric meter spin.

No lamp to replace, but;

No CC support,
No TVGOS,
No dual RF inputs,
No POP,
NO 1394 support for starters.

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Check posts on "halos" and "blooming" regarding cleaning the lens(a diy project that works wonders).

see Poodlehead's info at post number 8685. My self and several others have restored our sets by simply cleaning the light engine lens. A Light Engine Replacement is not necessary.
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I'm well past the warranty and I think this TV will never look as good as the newer plasmas or lcd's.I'll probably just replace it,specially with the prices of the 50" Pioneer Kuro.



See Poodlehead's info at post number 8685. Myself and several others have restored our sets by simply cleaning the light engine lens. A Light Engine Replacement is not necessary.
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I'm well past the warranty and I think this TV will never look as good as the newer plasmas or lcd's.I'll probably just replace it,specially with the prices of the 50" Pioneer Kuro.

Cleaning the lens assembly as described by poodlehead and others is easy to do, takes less than one hour, and will make a world of difference in the picture quality of your set. It's worth a try before buying a new TV.
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I have several photos taken during the lens-cleaning process.But I have no hosting site so I can't post them.I can email them to anyone willing to post the photos.Fred
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And I will provide service manual disassembly instructions/illustrations via e-mail.
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Enjoy watching your electric meter spin.

No lamp to replace, but;

No CC support,
No TVGOS,
No dual RF inputs,
No POP,
NO 1394 support for starters.


Like most generalizations, these are largely incorrect or immaterial. I have an 831 and a Kuro. I like my Mits but the Kuro's picture is clearly superior. Energy usage from a plasma, properly calibrated and not in torch mode, isn't that much - my elec bill hasn't gone up since I got it. The Kuro has a TVGOS, as did my Panny 600, and 2 RF inputs is of no benefit to most. I get OTA through the RF input on the Kuro and also through the RF input on the Dish 622. 1394 support is also useless to many. I'm not sure what you mean by "POP" but the Kuro has PIP, as did the Panny. You can also change inputs directly with the Kuro, rather than scrolling through the menu like the Mits (perhaps no issue with a universal remote). On/off contrast with the Mits (mine is ISF'd) is c. 1800:1 whereas the 8G Kuro is about 9000 to 1. Colors on the Kuro are closer to Rec 709 as well, notwithstanding that the Mits has more user controls. I will say that the Mits has better scaling and deinterlacing than the Panny did but not as good as the Pioneer.

The advantages to the Mits are a matte screen, size and cost.

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Like most generalizations, these are largely incorrect or immaterial.

1. There is nothing incorrect, generalized or immaterial about my statement, since it applies to well over 95% of the current TV's,
2. It's common knowledge of the 2x increased power consumption of Flat Panel TV's especially Plasmas. Apparently, you haven't been to CNet or Crutchfield and looked through their power consumption figures. Using your electric bill as an example proves nothing since that set is only one device affects that figure,
3. Considering the premium cost of Pioneer (what, twice the price of RP?), one would expect it to look better,
4. The Mits does have direct input access. The 2 RF inputs are next to one another, requiring only a second button push,
5. PIP or POP (Picture Outside Picture) has slowly dissappeared. Admittly, I perfer PIP of the two.
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The Kuro has a TVGOS, as did my Panny 600, and 2 RF inputs is of no benefit to most.

That is two models. Because most Americans are lazy, not wanting to bother with a outdoor antenna, and want instant results and everything handed to them on a sliver platter (eg. CATV or Satellite STB's), it's their loss if they aren't using the 2nd RF input.

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aVOLanche; You can post pictures right here. Use the "Manage Attachments" option below the text window. The pics have to be smaller than 1024x768.

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I have several photos taken during the lens-cleaning process.But I have no hosting site so I can't post them.I can email them to anyone willing to post the photos.Fred

photobucket.com
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If you want, I'll host them for you. Drop me a PM or send to yahoo.com. I think you can easily guess my username.

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Semi-dumb question. I've been following this thread for like two years. I had planned to just call Mits rather than clean the lens myself. However, it looks like the light engine replacement only applies to those w/ 73" displays. Is this correct? I have a 57732 with no 3rd party extended warranty. So, should I just clean the lens myself?

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Hope this works!Here are some images taken during a cleaning of the lens:
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Semi-dumb question. I've been following this thread for like two years. I had planned to just call Mits rather than clean the lens myself. However, it looks like the light engine replacement only applies to those w/ 73" displays. Is this correct? I have a 57732 with no 3rd party extended warranty. So, should I just clean the lens myself?

I'd clean the lens either way.There is no way to know,at this point,whether the lens will require periodic cleanings.....even with a new light engine.My guess is that it will need cleanings.It's really not a difficult procedure,especially if you read all the posts and gather the hints,pdf,etc. from those that have done it.I'm not sure that the picture is not BETTER after the cleaning,than when the TV was new! In any event,the difference is amazing. Fred
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I'd clean the lens either way.There is no way to know,at this point,whether the lens will require periodic cleanings.....even with a new light engine.My guess is that it will need cleanings.It's really not a difficult procedure,especially if you read all the posts and gather the hints,pdf,etc. from those that have done it.I'm not sure that the picture is not BETTER after the cleaning,than when the TV was new! In any event,the difference is amazing. Fred

I had my light engine replaced in June of '08 due to blooming and the blooming is back. So a replacement will require periodic cleaning.

Thanks poodlehead, ck007, aVOLanche, and others for posting the info needed to do this maintenance.
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Images e-mailed and uploaded...

Back panel removed


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Engine up close


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Allargon,
Uploaded photos are much better than my links!Thanks.
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Uploaded photos are much better than my links!Thanks.

Thank you... You're the one that took and illustrated the wonderful photos. I just put them up on photobucket.
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Thank you... You're the one that took and illustrated the wonderful photos. I just put them up on photobucket.

Yes, thanks aVOLanche. Every bit of info we can get is very useful for us who want to keep our tvs looking their best.
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