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Can anyone think of why my pro720 is plenty bright when watching cable but when I try to watch hulu through my ps3 the picture is very very dark.
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I would ask on the PS3 thread.

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Many players have a Brighter/Darker election, which allows for matching up that player to your other sources, for similar light levels. If your PS3 has one, set it to Brighter.

If your optics were crystal clear, it would be easier to see shadow detail on both. Unless you have cleaned your optics or had them cleaned - including the deeper optics on your model - since new, they are so dirty you would not believe the difference once clean again.

Contact me if you want it done right and absolutely safely. Those optical surfaces are plastic - very very soft - and once damaged cannot be saved.

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Can anyone think of why my pro720 is plenty bright when watching cable but when I try to watch hulu through my ps3 the picture is very very dark.
I am assuming you are talking about a Pioneer Elite PRO720HD yes?

Are they operating on different physical inputs and/or with different resolutions? The Elites have separate settings in some of these cases... If this is indeed true, it may easily be adjusted via the discrete settings in the Service Menu (Brightness, Contrast, Detail, Edge Enhancement)...but you have to know what you are doing, or you can cause a great deal more damage (READ: Serious damage). I've probably made Bob cringe by even bringing it up... but it's true. ;-)

This is assuming it's the set's calibration and not the player as Bob suggested.

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Free Pioneer Elite Pro510 and 610 in Seattle area

Since some people are focused on these sets in this thread, I thought I risk a plug for 2 sets that I have. Cut and paste from the classifieds area...

[update 8/29] In Craigslist...

[update]: Because I'm a nice guy (and really don't want to take these to the dump), I reflowed the solder on the 610 PS. The 510 PS sounds find but the 610 PS does make noise - sounds like it is coming from the transformer but I ran the unit for an hour and it worked fine. Both need a pro setup (Mr. Bob comes to mind) but the on board convergence will get you part of the way. Lens on the 610 is a bit dusty so I'm guessing the 510 is as well. Still good viewing in daylight.

I have a 510HD (12/2000) and a 610HD (5/2001) available to anyone who will come and get them. Power supply board has been resoldered on the 510 and I think the 610 needs it as well - can do that for you if that sweetens the deal.
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I am assuming you are talking about a Pioneer Elite PRO720HD yes?

Are they operating on different physical inputs and/or with different resolutions? The Elites have separate settings in some of these cases... If this is indeed true, it may easily be adjusted via the discrete settings in the Service Menu (Brightness, Contrast, Detail, Edge Enhancement)...but you have to know what you are doing, or you can cause a great deal more damage (READ: Serious damage). I've probably made Bob cringe by even bringing it up... but it's true. ;-)

This is assuming it's the set's calibration and not the player as Bob suggested.

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If the settings are changed in the service menu - and yes you can do more harm that good with your first keystroke of the remote in there - they will affect the scanrate they were changed in, universally, no matter which input you are showing your video on.

The User is the only place you may be able to change the brightness to be set one way on one input and another way on another input. If so, then you can just use a different input for each need.

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Just dropping by to say hi to good old friends.

Going strong Bob!!!

My Hit is at my father in law's and still going strong. Not giving up on RPCRT.

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Time to let it go

Pioneer pro-610 that had the pwr supply problem, was re-soldered by Mr. Bob in 2012, but now appears it is back. This TV is in the North Shore area of MA and still seems to be working fine other than the screen going dark every now and then. I am moving on. Would anyone be interested in purchasing this TV? Price negotiable.
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I have been doing this repair for more than 10 years, the number of sets I have saved with this process has to be approaching 100 by now if not more than that, and my lifetime warranty applies to each and every one of them, even those I resoldered years before I came up with the lifetime warranty promise. Not just for original owner, for EVERYBODY. If I resoldered that PS board I will stand behind it.

Send that board back to me and let me go over it and see if it needs attention. It could be something else in the set - a breakdown of the focus block (tho I have never seen that happen on a Pioneer), whatever. Or something else wrong in the set itself (tho that generally doesn't happen either aside from convergence repairs, which are quite standard issue for CRT). But if it truly is the PS board needing attention, I will take care of that, no charge.

I will keep these sets alive and producing great HD for as long as humanly possible. And having come onto the market in 1999 and it's 2014 now, and they are still surviving masterfully, you can see that they could last indefinitely, with the proper maintenance and eventual gun replacements. Hell of a design on these puppies!

Whoever winds up with it, get that board to me. Let's make sure and cover that base before moving forward to other possibilities.

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Full time lurker here, ready to put my HD510 to rest. Streaming media, a dearth of component out equipment, 1080p sources, and a lack of HDMI compatibility has sounded the death knell for this piece of RP history.

Just unplugged the unit last week. Superb cabinet, board reflowed by Mr Bob, in need of a lens cleaning (never got around to this). Located in upstate SC. PM w/offer if interested.

Please don't harangue me. As Neil Sedaka said "Breaking up is hard to do".

... and Mr Tivo is watching anxiously.
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The HDMI issue is a non-issue. HD Fury has taken care of that, and now has evolved into the "3D HD Fury" IV, for those of you having 1080p tech.

1080p is something that has been able to successfully convince people to move on from CRT until now. The HD Fury IV has a built-in scaler that can either upconvert or downconvert, your choice, and it is a much more affordable/cost effective option that buying new and suffering the short lifespan of all the new display tech out there. In this case it can take beautiful, gorgeous 1080p from Roku or Apple TV or anything else 1080p, and back-convert it to beautiful, gorgeous 1080i, making streaming usable for our CRT sets.

In short, it makes it so that anyone getting the 510 in question here will be capable of using all the latest technology out there except for 3D. Which is still not mainstream or universal, and may never be. I know many who couldn't care less.

The need for regular optics cleaning is scant compared to drawbacks inherent in fixed pixel tech, such as those I list in the very first post of this thread, including the need to change lamps every few years for fixed pixel projection tech. If, like the owner here, you owners have not yet had that optics cleaning done on your set yet, no wonder it looks like your set is worn out. IT IS NOT! Its beauty is simply being hidden from view by all the dust attracted to the optical surfaces by the high voltage. SIMPLE. That situation can be cured by spending an hour on the phone with me and doing it yourself, at your own location. Or having me do it for you.

Owners should think twice before moving on from CRT. NOTHING out there is lasting as long, and the pictures our CRT sets have always been capable of still continue to stand tall with everything else out there. Please observe the screenshots on this thread and others that feature CRT tech, from sets that have been fully dialed in, the way their designers always intended. They are stunning.



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