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post #901 of 14294 Old 07-25-2006, 06:08 PM
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Can anybody please help me with this? (Perhaps XBR1 owners can help with this as well...) Thanks!

I can quite easily move mine around my stand. There seems to be a non-abrasive type pad underneath. When I get home this evening I'll try to check and see what type of material it is. Hopefully, I can lift enough of it to take a peek.
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NO PRICE TALK (as posted in the title); we don't want this thread closed. Thanks!
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I can quite easily move mine around my stand. There seems to be a non-abrasive type pad underneath. When I get home this evening I'll try to check and see what type of material it is. Hopefully, I can lift enough of it to take a peek.

Thanks Jay!
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for the 50in
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There are no feet. The underside is like honeycombed plastic. I'm sure you could work something out. It would scratch a surface as is.

My 60A2000 has these rubber pads (4). I knew there was something rubbery when I was adjusting it's position on my glass-topped stand. Of course, when I look from below, I can actually see the small rectangular pads--maybe protruding from the plastic only 1 mm. though.
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Thanks for the reply Bill. Hmmm... what should I do? Since it's "honeycombed", there probably is not a good spot to stick any feet. What would (anybody) think about getting a good piece of felt, tracing the base on it, and just setting the custom cut piece of felt underneath it? Too much? Not enough?

If you can get the felt to match the base of the TV, it would probably work just fine. However, you might get stuck between too little felt (where the felt could get pushed under the TV) and too much (where the felt doesn't look good. What kind of furniture are you going to be using? Most furniture is a heck of a lot tougher than people give it credit for.
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What is the matter w/ you? Pretty thick sarcasm. I have stated in numerous threads that I would be terribly surprised to see anything less than excellent performance out of this set w/ all feeds. Nonetheless, it IS too early to make comparisons with other sets w/out direct comparisons under a variety of conditions. Thats a fact.

Please do me a favor, once you are satisfied that the A2000 is worthwhile to purchase please let us all know, that way we can blow up some balloons, throw some confetti around, and eat some cake.
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Please do me a favor, once you are satisfied that the A2000 is worthwhile to purchase please let us all know, that way we can blow up some balloons, throw some confetti around, and eat some cake.

Yes, please!

I still would like to hear the opinions of how SD looks to all the new owners out there. HD pretty much seems a given that it looks sweet, but many of us are still stuck with a whole lot of SD channels to watch. I'm wondering if that's part of that whole "Digital Reality Correction" stuff - making crap signals look a little bit better to the eye.
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I just noticed on Sony's site that the shelf height for the stand for the A50 and A60 is the same, 18 3/8". So, one of the current owners of the 60" stand should be able to help out with my earlier question after all.

1. Are the shelf height's adjustable?

2. How many inches are there height wise in each shelf for equipment?

3. It doesn't look like there is any back, what are you doing about hiding all of the wires? Is there wire management that I am not seeing?

Thanks for any input.
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Thanks for the reply Bill. Hmmm... what should I do? Since it's "honeycombed", there probably is not a good spot to stick any feet. What would (anybody) think about getting a good piece of felt, tracing the base on it, and just setting the custom cut piece of felt underneath it? Too much? Not enough?

There are some spaces underneath that are round and hollow. Please understand that I cannot lift and see under it.
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How have you been able to see it side by side with the XBR2 when its not coming out to September/fall?

Several of us saw all 5 new sets together at the Home Entertainment show in LA in June.
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My 60A2000 has these rubber pads (4). I knew there was something rubbery when I was adjusting it's position on my glass-topped stand. Of course, when I look from below, I can actually see the small rectangular pads--maybe protruding from the plastic only 1 mm. though.


your right, I found them. I guess it is ok, sorry for my other post to the guy that was asking the question.
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NO PRICE TALK (as posted in the title); we don't want this thread closed. Thanks!



What about place of purchase, isnt that a no no to????
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will the 50 have a better pq than the 60 since it will have the same resolution in a more compact screen?
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Again lip, your just being a jerk for no reason at all. I can't remember the last time sony made a tv that wasn't worthwhile to buy. I am very confident that buyers of this TV will be very happy. However, as I said before, for those asking for comparisons b/w this TV and the XBR1s they are best served to look for themselves or wait until their are many more reviews available. that is a completely reasonable thing to do. if you are already satisfied, than great, your opinion is noted.
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misterjensen,

If your stand is good quality finished wood (varnish) you probably should not have rubber feet on it anyway. It will soften the finish permanently.
Felt over rubber to be safe.



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My set will be delivered on Saturday, the 29th!!!! I have to say I'm feeling pretty good about this! Did the 4 year warranty.

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Ok, so this is my first post, but I have been following this thread since back when it was a price tread (kidding). My wife has given me the green light but she is trying to keep me to the 50" kbr1. I need some well stated reasons for her as to why I should pull the trigger on a 60" A2000 besides the "well, 60 is better than 50" that she doesn't buy into anyway. Any help would be appreciated. It has to be in the simplest of terms also. thx.
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Yes, please!

I still would like to hear the opinions of how SD looks to all the new owners out there. HD pretty much seems a given that it looks sweet, but many of us are still stuck with a whole lot of SD channels to watch. I'm wondering if that's part of that whole "Digital Reality Correction" stuff - making crap signals look a little bit better to the eye.


To me, the SD is not really all that bad. On my previous set it made me cringe...I think that to get the best SD signal you really have to fool with all the settings. Take the sharpness way down, make comparisons with the details and edge details settings, fool with a 480i signal so that you can mess with the reality/clarity settings in DRC mode, etc... to me it made the signals much more pleasant. I typically use the "standard" picture setting for HD and then switch to "custom" for SD channels. I still have to fool with the setting quite a bit because I honestly don't understand them well enough, and sometimes i don't notice any differences at all except for the more obvious "big effect" adjustments like sharpness.

Has anybody else found a combination of settings that you like regarding SD signals????

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55" or 60"??? - 8 feet viewing

i have an 11 foot wide room and i figure with the couch i will be 1 foot from the 1 side wall...factoring in about 2 feet for the tv itself, i guess i will be about 8 feet from the tv...

it is between the 55 and 60...what would people go with..keeping in mind i will want to watch some SD (dish) also...

thanks.
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55" or 60"??? - 8 feet viewing

i have an 11 foot wide room and i figure with the couch i will be 1 foot from the 1 side wall...factoring in about 2 feet for the tv itself, i guess i will be about 8 feet from the tv...

it is between the 55 and 60...what would people go with..keeping in mind i will want to watch some SD (dish) also...

thanks.

I am in roughly the same position...but at 9 ft....but with the price difference being so minimal between the two...not sure how anyone can turn down the 60" when it is such a questionable distance...minimal at best...and the price is only $100 - $300 difference in most cases...

I am going 60" hands down, and I have been reassured by the larger portion of members in this thread...

And besides, just be smart and get it at a retailer with a friendly return policy...you can always go down to the 55" or 50" if necessary when in that position...
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Yep, the XBR2s from Sony's site and a link in a somewhat recent post show the XBR2s with the dumbo ears although they are detachable it seems only on the 70" model.

The other features would be nice (PiP, CableCard, Wega HD, more HDMI, etc.) but it appears that for the most part the A2000s have the key components of the XBR2s without the bells and whistles and the heftier price tag.

In the past, I used to be more the type of "get all the bells and whistles" but have found most of them go unused. So, I am just happy as heck to have finally a solid value for the money TV.

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p.s. Come on DirecTV dude!!! Cabling done....HD receiver done....HD dish almost done....."just hook it straight to my veins" to quote Barney from the Simpsons a little out of context. His preference was beer! Mine is pure HD signal!

I was also in the camp of being wary of the "heftier" price tag... i asked the moderator if it was o.k. to mention this as it is an MSRP... no response, so i'm assuming it's o.k..... Sonystyle shows the 60A2000 at $3699 and I just heard from a very reputable source that the MSRP of the 60XBR2 will be $3999...and will be listed on Sonystyle soon with September ship dates.... any comments? Now we do need to consider that pretty much no one is paying MSRP now on the A2000s so this may not really matter at all.... just found it interesting enough to make me wait a bit longer....
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Question has been posed a couple of times, but I have not seen a response yet.
Does the A2000 have the same screen finish the XBR1 has?
I would have gone plasma earlier if I had not moved my old 31" down off the alcove about the fireplace to the new TV location.
Glare was not a problem looking UP at the tube TV, but it is in the corner the new TV is going.
I held off cuz a plasma would just be more of the same.
I need the anti-reflective properties the XBRs have,, but I can't fit the ears.

How would someone check this? I have not seen anti-glare in the literature.

The couple of flash pics show a dispersed flash reflection, which I take as a good sign.

Can someone enlighten us on this aspect? Maybe someone that has looked at the A2000 and the XBR1 side by side (or at least in the same room).

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Every day I am hoping someone will post more pics. Never seems to happen.

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I am going 60" hands down, and I have been reassured by the larger portion of members in this thread...

Well now that the 55 is out and if you hate the SSE,silk screen effect, the 55 will have much less noticeable effect. If you want 60 and no SSE pioneer 6070plasma is another option worth researching.
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I suspect that you both might be right. Here is my guess assuming properly calibration across the board and viewing in a dimly lit room (note I have not seen an a2000 or XBR2 in person yet):

If you have a High Quality source (BluRay, HD-DVD, Xbox360, PS3, Excellent Scaler, etc.): I'll bet the XBR1, a2000, and XBR2 all look pretty close. The a2000 and XBR2 might even look a little better than the XBR1 with a 1080p source.

If you are dealing with cable (and even worse: in store split feeds), the a2000 is might be subtly below the XBR1, which might be subtly below the upcoming XBR2. This could be the DRC 1 (a2000), vs DRC 2 (XBR1), vs DRC 2.5 (XBR2) difference. The higher you are in the DRC chain, the better the TV fixes up poor sources. The differences will probably range from negligible to subtle, and you wouldn't want to use DRC processing to clean up any HQ signals. This difference is nothing a nice external scaler coming out in the next year or so couldn't fix if it is a problem for you (don't forget that the advancement in the digital processing chips responsible for this processing follow Moore's law).

These are just guesses, but I think this would resolve much of the discrepancies we are talking about. My main concern is the brightness of the a2000 60". The XBR2 has a 180watt bulb (vs 120 for the XBR1 and a2000). Signal processing can be upgraded in the future (externally). Bulb lumens probably can not. I'm still planning on getting an a2000 this Thursday or Friday. Hopefully, it is bright enough for me (or else it will go back). You only need so many lumens for a good calibration (more than that is a waste).


Sounds very on point to me... all of these (XBR1, A2000, and XBR2) are going to look good with good feeds (remember "garbage in, garbage out"). The question remains, how will they look on less than ideal feeds(which is what most of us will be watching most of the time)? and that is exactly what AVbill is addressing... bravo....
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My wife has given me the green light but she is trying to keep me to the 50" kbr1. I need some well stated reasons for her as to why I should pull the trigger on a 60" A2000 besides the "well, 60 is better than 50" that she doesn't buy into anyway.


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I've seen them both in person, on the same sales floor, and on the same feed. Rest assured that the A2000 picture is as good or better no if's, and's, or but's, period. END OF STORY FOLKS!!! Anybody here who is putting up the big bucks to purchase one of these sets has every right to cancel their order so they can see it in person... but, you're going to be sorry you did once you see one

What was the feed you saw them both on? SD cable? HD-DVD? just trying to qualify your statement... thanks for all of your other insights, by the way.... you've been a great source for my SXRD education....
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