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post #61 of 2943 Old 08-11-2006, 06:53 PM
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One of the advantages of LED technology is the increased power efficiency. That is, LEDs are supposed to use less electricity than regular light bulb based displays.
So what is the power rating on the Sammy? Does the display get very hot?
Is the fan noticeable?

The data sheet does not list the power.

The manual says 230 watts, but I don't believe it. That is the same power that is listed for regular Samsung arc lamp DLPs.

The TV should have its power consumption marked on the back of it, I believe it's required. Can someone who has a 5679 take a look at the back and see if it's power rating is shown?
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One of the advantages of LED technology is the increased power efficiency. That is, LEDs are supposed to use less electricity than regular light bulb based displays.
So what is the power rating on the Sammy? Does the display get very hot?

The sticker on the back states 230W. Anybody with a 5688 want to see what it reports?

EDIT: I see 351CJ already checked. Looks like we need a meter.

There is some heat coming out of the back, it's warm but not exactly hot.

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Is the fan noticeable?

There is virtually no fan noise. In a quiet room with the volume muted, I can't hear the fan from the front of the TV. I have to be around 8" from the side air vent to hear it.

Good questions, I'll add this info to the first post.
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... it sounds like the black levels are pretty good, but there is room for improvement.

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Was the 90-95% grey your CRT? Have you done any calibration or plan on having it calibrated? Like most I'm curious how good the blacks can be on the 5679.

Yes, I'm sure there is room for improvement. My settings are slightly modified out of the box settings. I should be getting DVE next week and hopefully that will be beneficial. I'm not planning on have a professional calibration done, unless one of our resident Samsung calibrators wants to do a 5679 just for fun.

RTK, yes the 90-95% grey was on my CRT. From a distance, and in the dark, the 95% grey appears pure black and matches the cabinet, but sitting 18" from it the difference is noticable. I'll add a image to my post showing the color scale I used.
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BTW, clever idea reserving a post "for future use". Never thought of that.

Thanks. I can't take credit though - I saw it in another thread. I excel at copying!
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How about the 'red push' and 'noise' issues (I believe those were the two everyone was talking about) that were reported from the winter CES?

I felt the red's were a little strong at first. It'll be nice to hear from a calibrator on that. I don't see noise as a problem but it does show up periodically.
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I felt the red's were a little strong at first. It'll be nice to hear from a calibrator on that. I don't see noise as a problem but it does show up periodically.

So what did you do to fix the reds or did you just get used to them? Got any pics with something red in it?
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Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here. I got this set home today and have been playing with it for a while now. I'm able to get 1920 x 1080 @ 60hz resolution fine through my computer although I'm not sure whether or not it is running it as progressive. Before when I had my computer hooked up to my flat panel LCD, Nvidia controls had an option to treat it as a HDTV with various settings like 720P,1080I, etc ... I don't see that for this TV now that I'm hooked up through VGA instead of DVI.

I'm not a hi def guru so cant give you too much specifics, but DVD's off my hard drive playing in 1920 x 1080 through Nstant Media look nice, as does my older 480P JVC dvd player through component. Oblivion through my comp looked awesome ( though at that resolution I seemed to be lagging some, might be my computer... also didn't think to put it in game mode for my test ) and my PS2 looked pretty clean through component jacks. Comcast HD digital cable looks really good too, with or without the set top box ( again, through component and with the box set to 1080-I )

I don't have a DVI to HDMI cable at the moment, so haven't tried to hook my computer up that way to see if the nvidia controls would recognize it as a HDTV and give me 1080P as an option.

Brightness and colors seem ok to me, but I played with it some and haven't had my eyes calibrated lately. I'm a little short on cash at the moment, but if any calibration folks want to come play with one of these sets to give a professional opinion on them they'd be more than welcome. Not sure if there are any pros in the greater Seattle area...

The set definitely has a sweet spot in the vertical viewing angle as far are brightness. I sit about 8 to 10 feet or so from it and when I'm on the couch or in my computer desk chair its perfect, but I can see the variance as I stand up. From my kitchen counter, about 20 feet from the set, it isn't really noticable. From the side it doesn't seem as finicky, I have couches set diagonal across my room in a " V " shape towards the center of the room and with the center away from the TV. It seems watchable from all the seats, though it looks best in the middle of the room of course.

I have not seen any rainbows, but I don't believe I am overly affected by them since several of my friends have DLP's and it didn't bother me. As far as sound noise from the fans ... all I hear is my computer running as I type this and the set has been on for 5 or 6 hours now.

Advanced timing on my agp 7800GS card shows:

horizontal
front porch 48
back porch 80
Positive sync polarity
1920 active
32 sync width
66.65 khz scan rate

Vertical
front porch 3
back porch 23
Negative sync polarity
1080 active
sync width 5
59.990 refresh rate.

The box for interlaced mode is NOT checked, so I think that means it is running it in progressive. Someone more knowledgable than myself may be able to break those numbers down and tell us.

Also, there seemed to be some underscan when I tell it to auto adjust the picture under Setup and PC on the TV's menu, but resizing it and centering it with the P.Size button on the remote fixed it, and the TV is remembering it.

I don't have a camera, so no pics. Thats all I got for ya.
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since several of my friends have DLP's and it didn't bother me.

So when comparing 5679 with your friends' DLPs can you say there is any aspect in which ordinary DLPs fare better than LED DLP?
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My HLS 5087 does not show the "P" when receiving 1080P either . It does show an "I" when receiving 1080I. I think this is normal

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The reviews so far have been less then stellar. Makes me think that for 4k you might able to do better
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Can you see rainbows guys? That's what I really want to know. Throw in a THX dvd with the video test, go to the white circle image, and move your eyes around. Anything?
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Can someone post pics of the tv setup in your house. I really want to see how the cabnet looks
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The sticker on the back states 230W. Anybody with a 5688 want to see what it reports?

EDIT: I see 351CJ already checked. Looks like we need a meter.

The manual for the 5088, 5688 & 6188 says 230 watts for all 3 models.

I can't believe the LED model would use the same power. Makes me wonder if Samsung acutally measures power consumption or just throws a number up in the air.
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The manual for the 5088, 5688 & 6188 says 230 watts for all 3 models.

I can't believe the LED model would use the same power. Makes me wonder if Samsung acutally measures power consumption or just throws a number up in the air.

It's been my experience with my Kill-A-Watt that back of unit power numbers are meaningless. Pretty sure they usually are just stating the wattage of the power supply. And that has to account for overhead, start-up spikes, etc. Be really interesting to see what the real wattage is on these LED DLPs.
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The reviews so far have been less then stellar. Makes me think that for 4k you might able to do better

Or you could just troll another thread....

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My HLS does not show the "P" when receiving 1080P. It does show an "I" when receiving 1080I.

What 1080P source have you had available?

to each his own...
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What 1080P source have you had available?

I am feeding it a 1080P from a DVDO VP30 video processor.

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I am feeding it a 1080P from a DVDO VP30 video processor.

How does the image quality look from the VP30 vs. compared to a direct input for both SD and HD sources? Is the deinterlacing/scaling of the 5679 doing a good job or is the VP30 better on both?

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Sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't have a 5679. i just responded to let the poster know that I was not getting the "P" on my HLS-5087. Just to show that the earlier set worked the same way.

I have edited my original post to avoid further confusion.

I don't want to hijack this thread so I will PM you.

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As someone poised on the brink of purchasing the HL-S5679W....all I want to know is, are
those people that have made the purchase happy with their decision? $4,000+ is alot and
I need a bit of reassurance at the moment. What do you say?
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So what did you do to fix the reds or did you just get used to them? Got any pics with something red in it?

For Satellite TV viewing, I prefer using Standard mode but Warm2 was too red. Switching to Warm1 helped most of the time but occasionally was still too red. I've switched back to Movie mode and Warm2 now. The colors don't pop like they do with Standard, but I figure once I get DVE I'll be able to tweak those to my liking.

For OTA, I'm using Standard and Warm1 and like it. For DVDs, Movie and Warm2.

No pics, sorry. It's not frequent enough to easily capture.
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As someone poised on the brink of purchasing the HL-S5679W....all I want to know is, are
those people that have made the purchase happy with their decision? $4,000+ is alot and
I need a bit of reassurance at the moment. What do you say?

The main selling points for me were: 1) no RBE - I haven't seen them but I didn't want to take the chance that my wife, kids, friends would see them; 2) improved colors; 3) fast turn on and quiet. The PIP, Firewire, and CableCard were secondary. Just make sure the viewing angles will work for you.

Also, try to negotiate the price - no sense in paying MSRP if you don't have to.
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Thanks for the response.
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To owners:

Is the cluster of connections in the rear centered or more to one side?

I am laying out my connections now for delivery next week and my HDMI cables are coming up short.

Thanks in advance for any response.
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I've been eyeing this TV for quite a while and I'm planning on buying one as soon as I can find one. Yesterday my wife decided we needed to rearrange the furniture in our living room. We're now sitting between 8 and 9 feet from the screen of our current TV (6-7 year old 53" Sony projection SDTV). Will this distance be too close for the 5679?
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We're now sitting between 8 and 9 feet from the screen of our current TV (6-7 year old 53" Sony projection SDTV). Will this distance be too close for the 5679?

Not at all.
Many people would consider it ideal.

to each his own...
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Not at all.
Many people would consider it ideal.

Excellent! Thanks for the info. Now if I could only find one
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As someone poised on the brink of purchasing the HL-S5679W....all I want to know is, are
those people that have made the purchase happy with their decision? $4,000+ is alot and
I need a bit of reassurance at the moment. What do you say?

I paid much less than $4K after a price match with at ABT. My TV should arrive mid week.
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Is the cluster of connections in the rear centered or more to one side?

I am laying out my connections now for delivery next week and my HDMI cables are coming up short.

Thanks in advance for any response.

The connections are on the right side (as you look at the front). The HDMI connections are about 5" from the center.
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