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Still can't find the dimensions on these

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Dead link.

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Recording free OTA TV for 'time shifting' has been here since 1977. Will there be DVR's to do the same when ATSC3 obsoletes existing DVR's??
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Punching in Panasonic LIFI HDTV will bring up the new line-up.

Panasonic PT-50LCZ70 50" 1080p LIFI HDTV
Panasonic PT-56LCZ70 56" 1080p LIFI HDTV
Panasonic PT-61LCZ70 61" 1080p LIFI HDTV
Panasonic PT-56LCX70 56" 720p LIFI HDTV
Panasonic PT-61LCX70 61" 720p LIFI HDTV

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Unlike conventional LCD projection TVs, the LiFi light source lasts so long it might never need to be changed.

Panasonic may be the salvation of RPHDTV.
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Panasonic also showed three new LCD rear-projection TVs using Lumix’ LiFi projection lamp

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This “jiffy pop” lamp has no electrodes, but is activated by high-energy RF similar to a microwave oven. It’s not as efficient as a conventional lamp but is said too last to at least 20,000 hours.

A "jiffy pop RF lamp"??
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The LIFI lamp generates less scintillation noise than traditional HID lamps

Is that anything like 'mosquito' noise??
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The LCX70 series is 1280 x 720 resolution with 3 (new) .69” LCD chips.
The LCZ70 series uses 3 new .74” LCD chips providing full 1920 x 1080 HDTV resolution.

Some of the above was from here;
http://hdguru.com/?p=41

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Panasonic may be the salvation of RPHDTV.

Will these have the SED effect as all other LCD RPTVs' had in the past??

BTW, I tried to C&P a Amazon address, but this forum inserts a series of "*****" in the address line, so it wont work.

[MOD NOTE} Thats because you are not supposed retail links.

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Panasonic 56" 720p info

Specs from Panny still lacking

LIFI lamp info

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Looks as it is another set w/o a QAM tuner.

Cute little item. 270 watts at 28 volts.;
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Will these have the SED effect as all other LCD RPTVs' had in the past??

SDE? You'd think that the 1080p's would have a higher fill factor than the 720p's...or a finer screen door if nothing else. It'll be interesting to see how well the 1080p's stack up against the current LCOS offerings.

Guess LIFI won't be earning Panasonic an Energy Star rating.
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I think that the lower "scintillation noise" comment refers to what we call SSE. This looks like a really nice light source. It might be less efficient, but it isn't clear yet if Panasonic is using the 4000+ lumen, 270 watt model, or a smaller, lower power one. This source might be a candidate for a new generation of front projectors.
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Guess LIFI won't be earning Panasonic an Energy Star rating.

That 270 watts is only at 28 volts, NOT 120.

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Lets try this. Copy this link, paste it in the address bar, then remove the space on either side of the term; ref;
Retail link removed

The offending portion is (without the spaces);
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Apparently the forum doesn't like Amazon and this term gets censored.

$100 difference between thre 720p and the 1080p 50" set? Why bother with a 720??

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$100 difference between the 720p and the 1080p 50" set? Why bother with a 720??

No kidding

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Found this on YouTube

Luxim LIFI video

now says shipping in "1 - 2 months"

Sure would like to see one of these

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Since my website is taking a little longer than I thought it would, I'll post a few pictures of the LIFI sets. The first six will be of the 61", followed by six more pictures of the 56" and 50" sets.

I hope you enjoy them.
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Three more of the 61" LIFI set.
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This next group contains pictures of the 50" and 56" LIFI.
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Three more of the 50" model.
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Anybody know what the life span is on the regular Panny LCD RP sets are I think I hear something like 7 to 10,000 hours.

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Thx for the pics Tet, looks awesome

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Are those pics from ces?
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Does anyone know if this tv will be good for xbox 360 and fast moving sports? I don't want to deal with motion blur and I'm not sure if 3lcd have problems with this. So any info would be appreciated.
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any reviews yet?
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They don't seem to be in stores yet, and had no clue what I was talking about when I asked them if they had the LIFI sets in yet....
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Sears shows one of the sets on their web site, but I haven't been able to find any in the zip codes I've tried.

I'm guessing they are starting to be distributed, but not quite there yet.
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Panasonic is very proud of their extended warranty. They want $600 for a 3 year extended warranty on the 56” model.
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These sets come with a 5 year warranty on the bulbs.
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The best I can come to what scintillation noise is at Wikipedia: Speckle Noise

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Scintil...dIllusion.html
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Since this a 3LCD set, wonder if convergence adjustments are available? And by the customer?

And someone else asked, what about motion blur?

Does anyone know if this light source would be combined with the DLP?
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Looking at panasonic spec sheet for the 56" 1080P LIFI:

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...1&displayTab=S

Power Consumption Approx. 360W

Seems to be a bit too high (almost Plasma like). Does anyone know if this is due to the new light system requirement?

Also:

Dimensions with stand (W x H x D) in. 52.0" x 54.1" x 20.0"
NET Weight: lbs (With Stand) 121.1

Dimensions (H x W x D) 36.3'' x 52'' x 17.8''
Weight 72.7 lbs

I assume in this case the "stand" is not the feet on which the monitor sits but rather some sort of a matching stand (which I could not find data for). I wish they would've included some sort of a model number for the stand to prevent confusion.
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Does this use a color wheel?
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