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Dude...you need ALOT MORE than just a new plug. Look inside the light engine where the lamp goes and the socket that plug goes into...Burnt and ruined. New Light engine necessary now...I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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the light engine is where the 2 wires(from the burnt plug) go into right? Pulled it out and im looking at it right now and there are no obvious signs of anything burnt. And like I said, the tv was working 100% fine still.
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Key word...'WAS' working. Take a flashlight and peer into the lamp receptacle where the plug plugs into...you'll see exactly what I am saying. Sorry man, your light engine is toast.
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im not sure where im supposed to be looking. I have all the electronics out of the tv and can see everything easy. I followed the 2 wires(that pulled out from the plug) to where they plug into the board and everything seems fine. Im not sure if im looking at the right thing though. They connect to the board to the right of the light when looking at the back of the tv(is this what im looking for?)


edit, this is what the 2 wires from the plug go in to

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That is the ballast you are looking at. Look where the lamp gets inserted. There is the receptacle the lamp plug connects to. Those 2 loose wires are not what it gets plugged into. The lamp has a male end, the female end is inside the lamp housing of the light engine.
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there is nothing else it gets plugged into. The lamp gets plugged into the receptacle that is now welded to the actual light housing itself. Those 2 wires were what pulled out of the welded/melted plug. If you look at the other pics again, you will see that the burnt piece is the actual female plug that was part of the TV. It was connected to those 2 wires and broke off when removing the light.
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I see what you mean now. You MAY have lucked out IF you can find a pair of plugs...maybe. Couldn't tell you where to go as the TV is way old and parts are scarce/impossible to find individually. Absolutely good luck in your search.
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I wired the light directly with blade connectors and the tv works fine. Gonna look for a ballast as im pretty sure ill never find just that plug. Shopjimmy is out of stock.
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I wired the light directly with blade connectors and the tv works fine. Gonna look for a ballast as im pretty sure ill never find just that plug. Shopjimmy is out of stock.

Try TVPARTS4LESS they had em in stock they are located in

San Antonio TX. You send them your old one they send you a

refurb one. Cost about 115- 130 Bucks. did the trick for my

F-in-laws set.
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I have the growing "white Dot" problem with my Toshiba 65HM167, started with 3 dots and now up to 20. Research has shown replacing the DLP chip will fix this. I went to ShopJimmy.com and when I search for the DLP chip for the Toshiba 65HM167 - they list 2 different DLP chips. Which one should I get? Or does it matter? They have different model numbers. Any help from someone who has done this replacement would be appreciated.
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I have the growing "white Dot" problem with my Toshiba 65HM167, started with 3 dots and now up to 20. Research has shown replacing the DLP chip will fix this. I went to ShopJimmy.com and when I search for the DLP chip for the Toshiba 65HM167 - they list 2 different DLP chips. Which one should I get? Or does it matter? They have different model numbers. Any help from someone who has done this replacement would be appreciated.
http://www.shopjimmy.com/tvs/samsung-mitsubishi-toshiba-4719-001997-dlp-chip.htm
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Thank you Splicer010, will get this ordered.
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First off Toshiba you suck! Thank god for these forums, well I am about to embark on the DLP chip repair and I think I can handle that. My question is I also ordered a bulb and figured while its ripped apart WTH. My concern is whether or not I ordered the correct bulb. I ordered the Phoenix SHP87 bare bulb replacement. I am still on my original bulb and have had zero problems with this set until white dots started appearing. I have also read about the replacement lamps being garbage compared to the OEM. So should I just replace the chip and leave the bulb in until she blows or replace it while I'm in there? Is it even a good replacement bulb? Thanks again to everyone in these forums for the wealth of information you all have given me.
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I'd do the chip repair first. If you end up with any issues, you'll know that they are related to that repair.

If that all goes well, it is a simple job to replace the lamp. One screw and the cover comes off. A couple more and the old lamp just pulls out.

Doing two things at once complicates the problem resolution process.

P.S. I agree with your comments about Toshiba as a company. Samsung stood behind their products that used this chip by extending the warranty to cover the chip replacement. Toshiba left their customers out in the cold.

Toshiba earned my business by the pq offered by the 65hm167. They earned a top place on my "Don't Buy" list with their handling of the chip issues.

They may have made some short term profit when I bought my set, but those were the last of my dollars they will see.
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Yea, yea, yea...and I can't stand Samstung. But you and I still give them our dollars because their parts are in all kinds of things. rolleyes.gif

As for Tosh sucks, obviously not too bad if the guy is desiring to repair rather than replace. I would do as suggested, ensure the only issue is repaired with the DMD change before starting to invest more money. Get it working then order a new lamp. Get 2 or 3 cheapies. The bulb dims over time but so gradually you likely don't notice it yet. New lamp = new TV-like picture! The beauty of DLP!

With all that said, Look into Mits when ready to go bigger. Hard to find now they stopped production but worth the hunt by far over Toshiba.
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Thanks guys the chip, bulb, lens cleaner, and some compressed air are enroute! I'm kind of actually looking forward to the ripping apart of this TV. If it doesn't work can I take the chip back out and return it? I will just throw this beast off the balcony and return the chip if that's possible!! Thermal paste? Is that required or not?
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No...non returnable.
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No...non returnable.

Thank you. Thermal paste?
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Most likely not, but see what the original has going on. IF needed just remember a little goes a long way.
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I just wanted to chime in on this thread for people who are looking at getting a replacement lamp..I bought this set new in December of '07 and l last June i having issues with the lamp not lighting until after the third attempt of 15 flashing yellow lights..mind you this is the original lamp...I didn't take the advice of others and got on eBay and purchased a generic lamp for $65 on July 5th..Miraculously the bulb lasted until March 16th! Power on time was 21,086 with LampL 10,431 and LampH 10,65,4 so i was more then impressed with the life of it. I put my generic bulb and it fired right up, i was thinking hell yeah! Well it lasted for 2 weeks and it did the flashing yellow's then eventually the solid red. I took the lamp out and it looked fine so i thought maybe something else happened. I looked back on this thread and seen where another guy had a similar issue, so i thought i would try another lamp first. I called Toshiba and they sent me their OEM replacement for $128. I put it in and the tv fired right up, so far, so good! So anybody out there looking at going the cheap way on the bulb, use my wasted money experience as a lesson learned.rolleyes.gif
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The bad about the Toshiba DLP is the lamp price. Insanely high still after 5+ years. The Mits I can get for $35 shipped w/6month warranty. They last about 1-1.5 years. But @ $35 a pop, I can handle it.
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I found that my set would only work reliably with Toshiba lamps.

After market lamps would fire fine for anywhere between 2 weeks and 2 months, then start to require multiple restart attempts to get it going.

When you buy a lamp from Toshiba you get a compatible product for your set, a 6 month warranty, and the set actually powering up when you want to watch something.

I bought my Toshiba lamp with a credit card, which doubled the manufacturer's warranty - giving me a year's protection.

Toshiba lamps are an excellent example of price of an object being in line with it's value.

After market lamps are available much cheaper, but represent a poor value to me.
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Toshiba uses Philips. Find the Philips model for less... wink.gif
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Thank you all, I'm about to rip this beast apart and fix the white dots.
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Good luck with the repair.
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Not a star in the sky!!!!!



Thanks again to everybody in these forums. Went without a hitch until I put her back together and had gray lines jumping all over the picture! I was freaking out so I turned her off had a smoke contemplating ripping it back apart when I decided to try it and BAM she is back in all her glory!! Thanks again to everyone who has been there before me!
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Congratulations.

Quite an accomplishment.
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Hello all. I would like to first thank everyone for the terrific information I have gotten from this board. I too am a 65HM167 owner who has been hit with the white dots of death. I ordered my chip from shopjimmy and should have it tomorrow. I will also be attempting to upgrade my firmware. I will post some before and after shots...crossing fingers that I don't have to do the formatter board as well.

I love the picture form my Toshiba but the ownership cost has been somewhat higher than I would like. I have already been through several lamps and now have to add $160 chip.

Does anyone know of any specific changes that the new firmware has?

Wish me luck!
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Good luck and it is still agreat value when compared to replacement costs... cool.gif
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I have been told by several that "Phoenix" is another company that produces the Toshiba OEM bulb. Regardless, I have it and it is very bright unlike the other aftermarket bulbs I have used, like Advance I believe. I just bought the bare bulb for existing housing.
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