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I returned my HL-T6189S for the HL-T7288W this evening. Just hooked things up and plan to watch some source material.

OTB, changed to Movie, Warm 1, Sharpness 0, DNR Off, Just Scan. Contrast is definately NOT an issue with this beast. Very minimal 4:3 pincusioning. Colors are well balanced. Of course this is only from looking at them.

Size not included, I feel much better about this set over the LED models (this year). I will take some samples and pics tomorrow night and will post any concerns, impressions ,etc that I see.
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You lucky lil bastard.



Are these even out yet?

A big ol' 40% size increase. :-)


are these 120hz?
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Looking forward to the pictures!
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Are these even out yet?

are these 120hz?

ABT in Chicago received 10 on May22. And yes they are 120hz.
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ABT in Chicago received 10 on May22. And yes they are 120hz.

Nice...how is it!? Did you see samsung's dlps from last year?


We definitely need some pictures!
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Nice...how is it!? Did you see samsung's dlps from last year?


We definitely need some pictures!

I had the HL-S6188 for a limited time last year and it is difficult to say which is better since they appear to both be solid.

After a good solid day with this set I am extremely pleased with its performance. I have attached a pic from a BlackBerry Camera so it's not the best quality but will give you a general idea.

Watching DTV non-HD is tolerable. Again the 4:3 pincusioning is nearly non-existant. The 180W bulb makes mid-day viewing tolerable (pic attached). The set is heavy. The frame around the screen is a bit more pronounced than the 61 inchers, but is very solid with little if no flex. The fan is very quiet.

Features are the same as with the 6189S set (HDMI 1.3, BT2.0, etc). My stand is at 20". Main viewing area is at 8-12 ft and is a very well balanced experience. HD-DVD is breathtaking.

Inputs are on the rear and not the side like the 89 series sets. However, this is not an issue for me.

Size is exactly the same as last years 7178 so I gained 1 inch in the same space.
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looks nice, but how is it better than the 7188?

it still uses the same chip, right? when will we get non-wobulated 1080p for RP? seems like DLP development has sort of stalled, except for LED or laser, which we still don't get in larger sizes.
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looks nice, but how is it better than the 7188?

it still uses the same chip, right? when will we get non-wobulated 1080p for RP? seems like DLP development has sort of stalled, except for LED or laser, which we still don't get in larger sizes.

You mean the HL-S7178?

The chip is the next gen TI DLP Chip. It is not the same as last years 7178.

Other differences are:

modified 5 segment color wheel
HDMI 1.3 with CEC
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Comparision between the 2 is tough since I am used to looking at a ISF calibrated 7178. Once I am able to have mine calibrated it will be easier for me to tell.
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when will we get non-wobulated 1080p for RP?

Get a front projector. I'm not sure of the price range, but the bottom is somewhere around $6k. A RPTV set would probably cost more that that. Of course an installed and operating front projector will too.
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Do you have any computer/game hookups to see how it handles 1080P input from that type of source? (ie, overscan set to 0-1%? 1:1 mapping et al. without going into the service menu)

Is the angle of view any better/worse than w/ the 7178? (wondering as they got that extra inch from somewhere).
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Is the angle of view any better/worse than w/ the 7178? (wondering as they got that extra inch from somewhere).

They got the inch by reducing the width of the bezel, but the light engine mounts are probably adjusted slightly to compensate.
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Do you have any computer/game hookups to see how it handles 1080P input from that type of source? (ie, overscan set to 0-1%? 1:1 mapping et al. without going into the service menu)

Is the angle of view any better/worse than w/ the 7178? (wondering as they got that extra inch from somewhere).

Not sure what bulb was in the 7178 (150 or 180) This one is a 180Watt and is bright OTB.

I have an XBox360 at 1080P through component. I have it in Just Scan Mode (User Menu) and it is 0% overscan.

Viewing angle is about the same (no worse).
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Also, price wise I paid only $100 more than you can get the HL-S7178 for today
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Actually that's good news about the bulb being 180W. would provide a higher cd/m^2 rating after calibration then which is good when watching normal shows during the day.

You said that ABT had them in chicago area I wonder how much longer it will take to get them to the other B&M's. This has really snagged my interest.
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so awesome!!!
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any updates? when are you getting it tuned?

just checking, cause i was about to buy the 7178 and need to know if the xtra 600 bux is worth it


looks really sleek too!

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Ok, lost my patience and ordered the HL-T7288W from ABT (Thanks jnelson2000 for the tip). Should be arriving for the weekend. Now I just have to get on the ball and figure out what I am going to do with the HTPC setup.
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any more pics or impressions?
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Does anybody know if Magnolia Best Buy stores will be getting these anytime soon?
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Well don't have any pics of the setup yet (digital camera is screwed up). But some impressions, just got the set last weekend myself.

First item of note is that the set is 'shrinking' each day. First day "Bloody hell", 2nd day "huge", 3rd day "big", now "decent sized picture". :P

Unfortunately, I don't have HD DVD/Blueray so this would only be for SD DVD media. Set is bright, colours are pretty good (though could really use an ISF calibration which I'm planning on doing in the next couple months). Angle of view/off-axis viewing is pretty much the same as the 7178 and comparable with any other DLP that I've seen.

With SD content it really matters on the quality of the disc (I'm using the Zensonic Z500 player which upconverts to 1080P/60) on good mastered discs (Harry potter, matrix, criterion ones et al) the quality is pretty much the best I'd expect is possible out of SD. Really is making me re-think the 'wait for the war to end' position on HD media.

Have not played any computer games on it yet (mainly due to zero time) but that's next for the upcoming weekend.
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Wow, This TV is amazing.the brightness, clarity sharpness is all amazing. I had a Mitsubishi dlp set a couple years old and it doesn't even come close to this.
I connected a ps3 and xbox 360 to it.
PS3 via HDMI and Xbox 360 via component. All I can say is the resolution is unbelievable. Yes the tv is upconverting hd movies from the xbox 360 add-on to 1080p and its just as clear as the ps3 blueray movies. It is a very nice looking set too, aside from the enormous size 72 in.
Even my regular standard dvd upscaled through the ps3 look better than I've ever seen before. They seriously look like high def and they are scaled to 1080p.
This tv was the perfect purchase especially that it upconverts component to 1080p.I was going to go out and buy a toshiba Hd player for the HDMI but I am glad i didn't.
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Has anyone tried this TV with PC at 1920x1080 resolution? What is the size of the physical overscan, and is there perfect 1:1 pixel mapping?
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Hi all - I'm a newbie to AVS Forum and just ordered the HL-T7288W. Got a great deal through Abt Electronics thanks to all the research I did on this great board. I'm upgrading from an 8 year old Mitsu 55" Diamond 1080i set which is still going strong...I'm just tired of our 16 foot viewing distance and the small screen from afar

I would have gone with a projector, but my room has lots of windows and no way to close it off from the rest of the house, and it would be impossible to get it dark enough in the day time for viewing, so the RPTV was my only choice and the Sammie 72" was the best value I could find for a huge set.

Having a bit of trouble finding a reasonably priced and low profile stand/cabinet to put it on, though...hopefully I don't have to make one :x

My DirecTV HD DVR upgrade gets done Monday, probably before the set arrives...scored a free DVR, free installation, and 3 months of free service. DirecTV, hurry up and launch more HD channels! Boy how I wish FioS was available here.

The rest of my system consists of an old but fantastic sounding set of B&W fronts and center channel, some Klipsch in-walls for the rears, and a (forget the brand) 12" sub. I have a Denon prog. scan DVD (recently also bought a Philips DIVX DVD that seems to do some upscaling) and a Harmon Kardon receiver...

I look forward to getting my set, setting it up, calibrating it, and watching! We don't yet have PS3 or Xbox 360, but I'm sure those and HD DVD and/or Blu Ray are in the cards.

Cheers.
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Does anybody know if Magnolia Best Buy stores will be getting these anytime soon?

I just posted in a competing thread. Our store is getting them July 19. They are currently offering 3-year interest-free financing until July 7. That was too strong a lure for me to resist.
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UPDATE

My set arrived earlier than expected - Friday evening just before a storm. Needless to say, I was impatient and wanted to get it inside as quickly as possible. My wife and I were easily able to lift and manipulate it into place. We've watched several movies and so far are very happy with the PQ. I had a little trouble getting it set up and working with my Harmony 659 remote (still doesn't work quite right) and will keep on trying until it works properly.

I also adjusted to some of the recommended specs from Eliab in another thread, but had to tweak further from there so far to meet visual requirements. I do want to get hold of a calibration disc to complete a full brightness/contrast adjustment one of these days. With a dark room, the blacks still look a little gray with the brightness at acceptable levels and with contrast lower than it should be...

I also tried using the "WISELINK" (USB) connection on the side and was unable to get my 320GB Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive to be recognized by the set. Not sure why, may look into it some later.

By lunch tomorrow, I should have HD DVR from DirecTV installed and running. Now, I need to order a stand. I've narrowed it down to either a Sanus WFV66 or a Sanus CFV69. If anyone has feedback on these two please let me know. My requirements for choosing were 1) cherry wood design, 2) under 24" high, 3) at least as wide as the TV.

I think that about covers it for now. More info as I use it. I hope to read other updates from you all as well.

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Now that a few of you have had this up and running any further insights or reviews.
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Still loving mine! Some trouble getting it to work with my Harmony 659 that I haven't figured out yet, but otherwise the pic quality is great, even in 480p.
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... the pic quality is great, even in 480p.

Your TV only does 1080p. If the input is anything else, then the TV converts the input to 1080p. Of course it has to guess about the missing data more for SD signals than it does for HD signals.
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Your TV only does 1080p. If the input is anything else, then the TV converts the input to 1080p. Of course it has to guess about the missing data more for SD signals than it does for HD signals.

Right...perhaps a better comment would have been "even low resolution source content looks amazing once upconverted to 1080"? In any case, even sitting 5 feet from the screen, watching HD content is incredible and even a DVD looks awesome.

I still need to borrow a friend's calibration disc but for now, we are very happy with the setup. If only our table would hurry up and get here.
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Right...perhaps a better comment would have been "even low resolution source content looks amazing once upconverted to 1080"?

Right. I thought you might have meant that, but the question that I answered is very common.
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