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post #3061 of 15273 Old 10-14-2007, 03:19 PM
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I bougth my 60" 29 days ago at Circuit City. Based on heads up here, I took my receipt in and got a $450. based on their current sale price.

Now let's see, is it Blue Ray or HD?
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One more heads up: The 50" is currently 10% ($1620) off at bb online. The 55" and 60" aren't on sale. I went back for the second straight day and got ~$200 back. So much for waiting for td to get them in stock!
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I bougth my 60" 29 days ago at Circuit City. Based on heads up here, I took my receipt in and got a $450. based on their current sale price.

Now let's see, is it Blue Ray or HD?

HD, by far, because the players don't cost near as much. Besides the fact that there are always more people on the HD forum than the Blue Ray forum should tell you that HD is really where it's at.
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HD, by far, because the players don't cost near as much. Besides the fact that there are always more people on the HD forum than the Blue Ray forum should tell you that HD is really where it's at.

I agree, and if you still cant make up your mind get the upcoming Hybrid from Samsung, it will play both formats.

Oh and HD-DVD's new VC-1 compression is better than Blu-Rays now 10 year old mpeg2 compression imo.
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I agree, and if you still cant make up your mind get the upcoming Hybrid from Samsung, it will play both formats.

Oh and HD-DVD's new VC-1 compression is better than Blu-Rays now 10 year old mpeg2 compression imo.

!! I believe that BOTH HD-DVD and Blu-Ray do VC-1. It simply depends on what the DVD producer chooses to use.

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HD, by far, because the players don't cost near as much. Besides the fact that there are always more people on the HD forum than the Blue Ray forum should tell you that HD is really where it's at.

LOL. You have a point about the cost differences of the players, but everything else you said is laughable at best.

Take a look at the titles available on both formats, and look at the studios that put out titles on both and make a decision based on the movies you like. Nothing else matters, in my opinion. Both are good solid products that unfortunately have a lot of people caught up in the little format panty fight.

If cost is the most important factor for you, then buy the Toshiba A2 HD-DVD player-just be aware that it won't output at 1080p. It isn't a big deal to me, but may be to some. The player is excellent, especially for the money.
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I was thinking that too, but Vanns is a well known high quality online store with very good reviews so this is fantastic.... Great find...

Well I just ordered the 50A3000 last night from vanns. So I hope they are as good as everyone says. This is my first HDTV, so I'm pretty nervous about it.

At BB the same TV is $120 due to taxes primarily. So i guess I'll just stick with vanns.
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Hello all ... I am not sure if I can post direct links but I guess I will. KDS-55a3000 for cheap, with free shipping.

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...73&PID=1802658

Can anyone see how long this sale lasts? Looked on the Vann's site, but maybe I missed it.
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Can anyone see how long this sale lasts? Looked on the Vann's site, but maybe I missed it.

Vann's sales usually last at least 30-days but you might want to call them to get the official word. If you have a Vann's card, they also have a great Sony promotion that lasts till' 11/04/2007 - no payments and no interest for 18 months
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HD, by far, because the players don't cost near as much. Besides the fact that there are always more people on the HD forum than the Blue Ray forum should tell you that HD is really where it's at.

LOL, have you seen how the Blu supporters are treated on the AVS boards? No wonder why they don't bother here.
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Now let's see, is it Blue Ray or HD?

Do some research and try to figure out which format can deliver the titles that appeal to you the most. Look at what's currently available, and what's going to be released on both sides.

Here's a release schedule for Blu-Ray:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html


Here's a release schedule for HD-DVD:
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html
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I bougth my 60" 29 days ago at Circuit City. Based on heads up here, I took my receipt in and got a $450. based on their current sale price.

Now let's see, is it Blue Ray or HD?

get both....theres just too many good exclusives on both sides to not go neutral by this xmas....if you don't have a fancy new 1.3 receiver and therefore don't need bitstreaming of the new hd audio, then get a 40gb ps3 at 399 and a toshiba a30 at 399 and forget about it. if you've got the money get a sammy 1400 or 80gb ps3 (or better yet a 60gb if they still have them) and then get an a35 or xa2 for hddvd. Or....if you're just rolling in the cash, wait for the Denon bluray and the Onkyo HDDVD!!!

But no matter what, get both, the war is for childish kids, people buying a3000 tvs can afford to go neutral.

Blue Discs: 28....Next purchase...The Rock
Red Discs: 7....Next purchase...Is there a need to?
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Aaarrgh! I was all set to place an order for the 55" set, but now that the price for the 60" dropped so dramatically, I'm back to square one!

The store I considered has the 60" for only $120 more than the 55" one. I would love to go for the bigger one as it seems to offer a better bang for the buck, but I'm concerned about two issues:

- brightness issue: is the 60-incher really considerably dimmer than the 55-incher?
- geometry issues: by what I've read the 60-incher is more prone for these than the 55-incher. True or not?

Thanks!

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Will bb give money if you bought from best buy online which is about 2 hundred difference then what the store prices at, if it is still within the 30 period??
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My 60-A3000 showed up on Saturday, it replaces a 60a2020 Tweeter had as a loaner with me.

So far so good. Black levels and color is better on the 3000. The 2020 had the slightest hint of blue to the blacks.

The 2020 had less SSE though. Overall the 3000 has a better picture IMO.

I have an Xbox 360 and xbox HD-DVD player which was hooked up via component cables but the DVE test patters wouldn't display the below black bars. Switched to VGA cables and problem solved. Too bad it underscans and you have to expand the image and then adjust the screen size to fill the screen.
If anyone has a better solution let me know.

Great picture on HD-DVD movies though. Much better blacks and shadow detail via VGA.

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Holy price drop (Vanns and BB). Does anyone think this will hold or will the prices go back up? I can't buy until early November.....
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I've got both a HTPC and XBox360 that I plan to hook up to the 60" version (waiting for a BB coupon!) and wonder what the best option is for the hookups? I had planned to do the XBOX via component cables, and my HTPC with a DVI-HDMI cable. But maybe this isnt the best way, especially not utilizing the VGA port. The XBox is going to be gaming only, whereas the HTPC will be HD viewing as well as HD DVD and Bluray playback. Seems like maybe I should put the Xbox (mine doesnt have HDMI) on the VGA port to save component inputs for something else?
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Sears has the best price right now for the 60". $2089.99 plus a $250 rebate with Sears card.

$1839.99 after rebate! Amazing!

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05754627000P
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How is Sears on exchanges in case I get a faulty one? Circuit City is extremely flexible the first 30 days.

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Thanks to everyone for the heads up on the price decrease at Best Buy, got $108.25 back!

For those that say SD looks good on their 60", are you using different settings relative to other video sources, if so would you mind sharing your settings. I sit about 9.5" feet away from the set and am viewing my SD through a DirectTivo through a Denon AVR-4308 (upscaled to 1080p) and it just doesn't look that 'that' good. Maybe its the fact that I upgraded from a CRT and not another RP set (like others on this board). I'm hoping some settings and feature tweaks can help to improve the picture a little.

Thanks.

Not that familiar with DirectTvio so I do not know what it is doing to the signal. My recommendation would be to feed 480i content as 480i content to the A3000. Let the A3000 do the heavy lifting. Under screen setting Wide Mode: use Normal or Full.
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like maybe I should put the Xbox (mine doesnt have HDMI) on the VGA port to save component inputs for something else?

You might wait before considering a VGA cable for the Xbox, they're both analog so it's probably not going to be a step up in video quality for games. There were some early comments on this TV that some video cards had to have a VGA cable hooked up to use HDMI from the computer.
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You might wait before considering a VGA cable for the Xbox, they're both analog so it's probably not going to be a step up in video quality for games. There were some early comments on this TV that some video cards had to have a VGA cable hooked up to use HDMI from the computer.

If thats the case, then I would just continue using the component output of my HTPC video card (nvidia 8600gts). Cant see running 2 hookups just to make HDMI work.
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Sears has the best price right now for the 60". $2089.99 plus a $250 rebate with Sears card.

$1839.99 after rebate! Amazing!

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05754627000P

How does Sears handle the rebate amount for in-store purchases? Is it instant? And before or after tax? Just noticed my local sears has this in stock, so I might have to go get one!
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How is Sears on exchanges in case I get a faulty one? Circuit City is extremely flexible the first 30 days.

Look on the back of your receipt.
It should be 90 days exchange(no charge) but returns/refunds will cost you a 15% restocking fee.

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According to their website, it looks like 30-day exchange period on TV's:

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Our goal is that you are completely satisfied with your purchase. If for any reason you are not satisfied, simply return your purchase in its original packaging, with your original packing slip and sears.com Order Confirmation E-mail Receipt within 90 days of your purchase, 30 days for Home Electronics and Mattresses for a refund or exchange. If you are not satisfied with your purchase after these time periods, please let us know. Your satisfaction is important to Sears.

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Received my 60A3000 on Friday, spent the whole weekend tweaking (at first) and then analyzing the picture. Initial impressions:

1. At a seating distance of 11', the 22" stand I bought is just fine. Would 18"-19" be better? Sure, it would bring viewing height to dead center of the TV. But I have noticed no viewing angle problems from the couch and loveseat, and no loss of brightness uniformity.

2. Geometry is very good. Perfect? Probably not. But on watching credits scroll vertically, and paying attention to steady left to right pans, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it, at least that's visible to the naked eye. My old Panny RP HDTV (2001) was horrible with geometry.

3. Picture: very, very good, especially after calibrating and taking off sharpness and other enhancements. It's actually revelatory how good the set can be when you toggle between my custom setting and others that I haven't touched (like Vivid, etc.). Toggling between them while a BD is playing makes your eyes hurt (when it's on Vivid). I thought I'd be a little disappointed with black levels coming from a CRT RPTV but I'm not. This set does them well, much better than my LCD TV in my bedroom.

Overall, I'm one of those who is so nitpicky, I often have to fight off buyer's remorse within a few days of purchasing such a high-ticket item. Color me finicky, but I expect close to perfection when I drop $2K on something. With the A3000, it's been 4 days now and not one pang of regret.

For those choosing between the 55 and 60, if you can afford the difference, go for the 60. I've never heard one of my friends say "gosh I wish I'd gotten a smaller set" but I've heard plenty say the reverse...
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Anyone know of anywhere in Canada to get these for a good price?
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I was wondering if anyone could talk about their 480i performance. What settings do you use for 480i content? Different from your HD settings? What about apect for 480i? I currently use the Wide Zoom mode, but it definitely makes things more blurry. Do you use the pillar-box or some other mode with 480i content?
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How does Sears handle the rebate amount for in-store purchases? Is it instant? And before or after tax? Just noticed my local sears has this in stock, so I might have to go get one!

I got my 55A3000 in store at Sears a month ago. They take $ 250 as an instant rebate right off the top. So your only paying tax on the super discounted price
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Hey - can anyone PM me with what the BestBuy employee discounted price for this TV is, in 60"?

ASAP is preferable.. thanks in advance.
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