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post #721 of 15284 Old 08-21-2007, 10:55 AM
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Someone mentioned that tey thought that the string was wearing down. Can we get any further feedback on the relative picture quality? I, for one, do not think anyone should bother taking pictures, as it has virtually no bearing on the quality of this A3000. It's like a commercial on your tv about a tv. The quality is only as good as your monitor, and then still it is not a good measurement.
So any more comments on these units that would be helpful, encouraging/discouraging???


OK... my thoughts having my replacement 55a3000 since Sunday... btw these comparisons are based on the unit this TV replaced (Sony KDF-55WF655 aka Grand Wega)

Factory settings aren't that bad as long as you switch to custom and modify the defualts a bit:
Contrast and picture too high as always by default.
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I will say the following based on about 7 Blu-Ray / HD-DVD / TS streams watched along with a lot of Media Center content:
1. Picture is lightyears beyond the Grand Wega I had... simply no way to begin to compare them.

2. SSE is visible IF (and its a big IF as I know what to look for but my wife who has 20/15 and I explained what to look for didin't see it until I maxed out the brightness/picture settings) you really look for it, I didn't see it in snow scenes from "8 Below" like I did with the Wega. I am a pilot 20/15 myself and had to force myself to look for it, only now as I am typing this can I see this as I have been on the same screen for several minutes and I shifted to get a drink.

3. Build quality - I guess this is a bit subjective since I had a defect in the first unit. This one seems well put together and my wife liked the clean looks compared with the XBRs.

4. 24p/120hz/color depth/partirdge in a pear tree - I am not a video engineer (although I did study mass comm in university before I rediscovered aviation) So I do know waveform monitors, color gamut, etc... I will say that 24P seems to work very well as does 120Hz smoothing. I am very impressed by the quality. We had friends over who have a Pioneer Elite Plasma and asked how much this unit was as both he and his wife thought the image was amazing. they both thought it was a Plasma based on the richness and detail.

His wife actually hit him when I told him the price.

On that point, I am considering getting another one of these for the master bedroom (was going to put the Wega in there but I don't know now)
Granted we don't "need" one in the bedroom and I could spend that money on some new speaker or AVR in the living room, but given that this is a great room floor plan home... my wife has deemed high SPL movie watching forbidden.

5. Image Quality using a HTPC - Having your Vista desktop on a 55" monitor sitting 8' away from it and being able to read small text without having to resize is WONDERFUL.

ME/MN/CM all seem to be working and the only issues I had was with CM on Auto2 and I have no idea if it was my HTPC causing the issues... but it did make it look like I was the videographer if with a bit of stutter.

My wife told me I could buy any TV under 6500... I was practical (yeah I know something none of us gear heads usually exhibit) and I am glad I waited and did research. I can't thank insley and Gumby enough for helping me make the final choice and I couldn't be happier.

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I purchased a KDS-60A3000 from BB on Thursday of last week, without seeing it in person. This is my first HDTV of any sort, having been stuck with a mammoth CRT for what seems like an eternity.

I’m fairly new to this, but I’ve done a considerable amount of research in order to make an informed decision. I chose this television because I wanted the cost-effectiveness of a rear projection TV, but find myself particularly susceptible to DLP’s shortcomings (namely rainbow and DLP headaches).

Overall, I am very pleased with the picture quality of the TV, however there are a few tiny things that have come to my attention as I’ve been getting used to the set:

1) Blurry or hazy image toward the top of the screen - I first noticed this after connecting my PC. The icons toward the top of the screen seemed to be a bit blurry. I assumed it was the VGA input, but as I looked closer the effect seemed to be “in” the TV. Moving icons around will change the angle of the blur and it sort of behaves as a line of perspective drawn to the center of the screen. This effect is visible on the menu display and I have verified that it’s present on the floor models at BB.

2) “Motion Tracers” – On occasion, with fast movement, I’ve noticed remnant image persist on the screen. I can only assume this is similar to the ghosting on LCD monitors related to their ms refresh rates.

My hunch is that both of these are drawbacks of rear-projection technology. Can anyone here shed some light on what I’m seeing here?

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I have been waiting for some sort of official confermation on this set's features before purchasing and I wanted to see if there are any advance features that other sets have that the A3000 won't or are at least not rumored to not have. The feature list I can think of is:
1. 1080p (obviously check)
2. HDMI 1.3 (check)
3. 120 Hz (check)
4. 10 bit color (unsure and also if future 12 bit will make a difference)
5. Deep color support (unsure)
6. 24p display (I think everyone has agreed that it will accept it, but there has been doubts if it will display it accuratly without extra proessing)

If anyone knows of any features that sets out of the A3000 line have besides these, or can clarify any of the above rumored ones, please do. I am not really concerned about things like PIP or the DRC 2.5 of the XBRs, but things that will maximize and future-proof Blu-Ray and Satellite HD signals. Thanks for any input!

there is no info on the color bit of the TV and its pretty hard to find out.
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Has anyone run across the KDS-50A3000 in marketplace yet? I cannot find it available anywhere.

My local BB has both the 55 and 60A3000 on the floor!

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I ordered the 60" model last week and it arrived today, and so far I am very happy with it. I started with the Casino Royal Bluray and liked it after I turned the motion control off. I played a game and was very impressed with the detail. Next I went to my 360 elite and started playing the King Kong HD-DVD. I turned the motion control off again and was noticing very slight stutters in the motion, so I set motion control to high just to see what it was like. I am sort of torn by my reaction - on one hand much of the motion of the characters is very lifelike, almost too lifelike, but it seems very processed to get it this way. I am wondering what the other owners have their motion control set to? I ask because when I turned it off, at least on the HD-DVD, I would notice slight stutters in the motion, espcially during the wide pans that Peter Jackson uses.

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... I am wondering what the other owners have their motion control set to? I ask because when I turned it off, at least on the HD-DVD, I would notice slight stutters in the motion, espcially during the wide pans that Peter Jackson uses.

I'm just guessing here.... but I think what you are seeing is judder. Since the Xbox360 cannot output 24p it is doing a 3:2 pull-down on the stream. I think....

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I pick up mine tomorrow. Direct TV won't be out till Friday for HD tho, so pics will be pointless. I did go back to BB last night to show the wifey the set...she wasn't too excited on the looks. She like the shiny Samsungs better. Oh well...I'll take technology and a better brand of TV(MY OWN OPINION!!!) than a shiny bezel.

I was considering between the Mitsubishi 65734 and the Samsung HL-T6187, but now I am waiting until I can see a Sony 60A3000 in person. I didn't like the old Sony because of the massive depth of the set compared to the Samsung and Mitsubishi. But now the new Sony is very comparable. I don't believe that Sony has better technology than Samsung or Mitsubishi. The one thing I don't like about Sony is that you usually pay more for the name and I have heard a lot of bad things about getting Sony to fix things if they don't work. Bottom line is I will buy whichever one seems to be the best fit for my use, because I think they are equal on technology. (My Opinion)
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I think you're right, because I didn't notice it on the Blu-ray/PS3. Thanks for the quick reply. Any way to minimize this in the TV settings or would I have to get one of the standalone Toshiba HD-DVD players?

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I didn't like the old Sony because of the massive depth of the set compared to the Samsung and Mitsubishi. But now the new Sony is very comparable.


This is what I don't understand and never have. The difference is about 4 inches in the 60 inch model. That 4 inches is a difference describable by the word "massive". No wonder companies are willing to screw up a TV set's geometry so bad to save a few inches, its consumers are clearly crazy.

4 inches over a 10 foot span is ridiculously fractional. If you have enough room to sit a desirable distance from a 60 inch set, you should have a meager 4 inches to spare.
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I ordered the 60" model last week and it arrived today, and so far I am very happy with it. I started with the Casino Royal Bluray and liked it after I turned the motion control off. I played a game and was very impressed with the detail. Next I went to my 360 elite and started playing the King Kong HD-DVD. I turned the motion control off again and was noticing very slight stutters in the motion, so I set motion control to high just to see what it was like. I am sort of torn by my reaction - on one hand much of the motion of the characters is very lifelike, almost too lifelike, but it seems very processed to get it this way. I am wondering what the other owners have their motion control set to? I ask because when I turned it off, at least on the HD-DVD, I would notice slight stutters in the motion, espcially during the wide pans that Peter Jackson uses.

I do not have a Blu Ray or a HD DVD player, but on every DVD I have watched on my XBox 360, I could relate to insly's opinion about how it feels as if you're actually behind the camera. The motion is incredibly smooth and I think it makes watching the movies more exciting.

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DDE menu? Where's that? Do you mean Cinema mode in the picture settings?

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No, just send the tv a 1080i signal and select Film mode in the DDE menu option which will perform an inverse telecine to 24p and then multiply that by five to output 120p, hopefully.

This may or may not have any bearing on the SXRD's, but Sony's latest LCD the XBR4 fails the 3:2 cadence test.*

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This Sony, like most of the 75 2007 models the HD Guru™ tested this year, failed the 3:2 cadence test. Failure results in degraded resolution and/or visible artifacts. Unlike the de-interlace test, where switching picture modes affected the result, the KDL-46XBR4 failed to identify and convert 24fps film-based signal in all picture modes. Silicon Optix’s HQV HD test disc (Blu-ray edition) provided both 3:2 cadence and 1080i de-interlace tests).

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*Disclaimer: These are not the same sets, may contain different video processors, and these tests may or may not have anything to do with 24fps content on next gen video discs. Since last years XBR2 SXRD failed the same tests, it's something to keep in mind.
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This is what I don't understand and never have. The difference is about 4 inches in the 60 inch model. That 4 inches is a difference describable by the word "massive". No wonder companies are willing to screw up a TV set's geometry so bad to save a few inches, its consumers are clearly crazy.

4 inches over a 10 foot span is ridiculously fractional. If you have enough room to sit a desirable distance from a 60 inch set, you should have a meager 4 inches to spare.

I didn't say I didn't have the room to put it in my house. I said that it was massive compared to the Mitsubishi and Samsung. It just looks old. I have a set that is very deep and I think it looks massive. I would like to get something that looks nice sitting there and I don't think the old Sony's look very good. If I had to have that depth to get the best picture than I would. But I don't so I won't. I have room in my garage for a 65 impala but just because I have the room doesn't mean that I want that big boat in my garage.
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Thanks very much reio-ta, Auto-2 seems to have done the trick - I've watched 2 HD-DVDs since turning it on, and I haven't noticed the judder. I guess the playsation 3 doesn't have that problem, because I never noticed it when watching Casino Royale.

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I'm really getting sick of customer service people, especially with Tech Depot. They don't answer emails and when you call to talk to someone, the CSR is like 14. These people don't have any idea when the TVs are coming in. I asked to talk to their supplier and he didn't know who that was. His answer was this and he repeated it over and over, "uh yea, those TVs will ship when your order is done processing and the supplier ships them to us". When is that I ask, and he says, "uh yea, we don't know, but we will email you a tracking number when it ships". Why did you already charge my credit card I said, and he says, "uh yea, I don't know". They are not supposed to charge you until the thing ships. ABT did the same thing on my Onkyo 905 receiver. So I have $3500 worth of charges and nothing to show for it. This was the most intelligent conversation that I've ever had with a CSR of any company. These people make J&R reps sound like Ivy League lawyers. What does it take to get a new TV and a receiver these days, an act of congress!! Rant over. So how is everybody and their TV?
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Just got off the phone with BB, my TV is in a day early and I'm going to pick it up after work! YEAH. Don't expect ANYTHING from me for at least a week as I don't have ANY PS3(ordering one right now from Sony Style w/ the $150 credit on first purchase) or XBox as I don't play video games EVER. I don't have an HDDVD (waiting for the XA3 to surface later this year or for XA2's to drop in price) player as I haven't owned an HDTV till now. Direct TV won't be out to my house till Friday. My key item is going to be hooking up my SD Direct TV receiver tonight or tomorrow to see what the SD picture looks like as SD content is still very much out there and was a big decision on getting this set(insley's pics looked decent enough). Plus I got to see the 50,55, and 60 in the store and I liked it.

As for the size...I could care less if it was 16" deep or 30" deep...I have a media cutout and it's deep enough for the TV. However it's not wide enough for the TV I bought so it'll be sitting out a little. I'll be sure to post pics when I get the new stand and stuff(APC H15 on the way also).

Edit: BTW...the only DVD player I have is the VERY first Sony player to hit the market...the BDP3000 or something like that. It's so old I can't even remember the model number. It's a tank but still puts out a great picture on my 32" CRT! Geez, that's sad. Will be interesting to see what it looks like on the TV! HAHA
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I'm really getting sick of customer service people, especially with Tech Depot. They don't answer emails and when you call to talk to someone, the CSR is like 14. These people don't have any idea when the TVs are coming in. I asked to talk to their supplier and he didn't know who that was. His answer was this and he repeated it over and over, "uh yea, those TVs will ship when your order is done processing and the supplier ships them to us". When is that I ask, and he says, "uh yea, we don't know, but we will email you a tracking number when it ships". Why did you already charge my credit card I said, and he says, "uh yea, I don't know". They are not supposed to charge you until the thing ships. ABT did the same thing on my Onkyo 905 receiver. So I have $3500 worth of charges and nothing to show for it. This was the most intelligent conversation that I've ever had with a CSR of any company. These people make J&R reps sound like Ivy League lawyers. What does it take to get a new TV and a receiver these days, an act of congress!! Rant over. So how is everybody and their TV?

You can always cancel your order and get BB to price match it instead.

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I found a 50A3000 that has my name on it. I just cancelled my order with Tech Depot. I just hope they credit back the money they already took out of my account as soon as possible. I even got a price match. Should have my TV in 3 days. I'm ready to join the club!!
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You can always cancel your order and get BB to price match it instead.

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I would buy from Best Buy or Circuit City if they would price match. But they only pricematch other stores in your area. That doesn't really do us any good does it?
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I was able to get BB to price match TD on a 60A3000 this last weekend... they included the shipping cost in the price match, which is fair... can't hurt to take a printout of the TD price into BB and ask for the manager of the home theater dept. and see if they will bite... might want to tell them that you have heard of other BB stores doing the price match... good luck.
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I went into BB today and they are coming tomorrow to switch out my dead set with a new one. Still sucks in a way because I loved the pic on the old set and (mainly because of places like this site ) I'm worried the new set won't be "the same". I know, I know...

They also wouldn't match the TD price on the new set, even as I offered to add the warranty, because the Tech Depot price says "out of stock". Damn, you loose your leverage after you've already bought.


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Huge buzz kill. I left the room for a moment and came back to find the screen blank (not even any banners). I've checked all the connections. Powered off/on and still no screen. When I first turn the TV on, the power light flashes green for a period of time, then it starts to flash red (manual says it's running diagnostics). It flashes 5 times in a row (red) and pauses and then starts flashing 5 times again, and so on. Trouble shooting section of manual is not a help, but does have reference to the fact that 7 red flashes means "High Temp Warning". Anybody have any idea what might be causing the problem?

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As of 8/20, Best Buy in Rockville, MD has the new 60A3000 and the 55A3000 on the sales floor. I saw one of the crew members setting up the 55A3000 and my jaw almost dropped. The west cost always seems to get the sets first. LOL! Left-coasters rejoice! Man, I have been waiting patiently for this one for awhile!

I played around with the 60A3000 for about a half hour. I took the set out of the horrid Vivid mode and tweaked it using the Custom settings mode.

Here is my "personal" take on the A3000. Keep in mind that I tweaked the set off of Best Buy's signal. Unfortunately, the signal was from the standard BB coax feed. Overall the set is nice. I do like the streamlined case and the way the image seems to "float" because of the way the new case outlines the screen.

However, the image quality of the new set did not seem to knock me off of my feet. Specifically, the motion enhancer and motion flow settings. I tried my best to see if I could notice a difference. Unfortunately for me, I did. The new settings seem to enhance the picture in a "processed" fashion. To me, some images appear more egde enhanced, which give the image a sense of being more "lifelike". Other images clearly suffer from the enhancement feature where the processing seems take away from the image. I am sure one can tweak around something like this, however, I don't know if I would keep the feature on most of the time. There was a little bit of SSE, but nothing to worry about. Geometry appeared to be just fine. I even pushed the screen in to see if the image would bow. It did not.

Your mileage will vary, of course. For me, I don't think I will be getting an A3000. I just didn't see that much difference between it and an A2020 or A2000. Don't get me wrong, the new features are nice, but for me, they are just not worth it. An XBR5 might be in order for me.

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I went into BB today and they are coming tomorrow to switch out my dead set with a new one. Still sucks in a way because I loved the pic on the old set and (mainly because of places like this site ) I'm worried the new set won't be "the same". I know, I know...

They also wouldn't match the TD price on the new set, even as I offered to add the warranty, because the Tech Depot price says "out of stock". Damn, you loose your leverage after you've already bought.

I (with good advice from insly) got BB to price match it after I bought it. You still have your leverage with BB for 30 days.

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I didn't say I didn't have the room to put it in my house. I said that it was massive compared to the Mitsubishi and Samsung. It just looks old. I have a set that is very deep and I think it looks massive. I would like to get something that looks nice sitting there and I don't think the old Sony's look very good. If I had to have that depth to get the best picture than I would. But I don't so I won't. I have room in my garage for a 65 impala but just because I have the room doesn't mean that I want that big boat in my garage.

I'm not picking on you, specifically. My wife says the same thing. So do a lot of people. Just doesn't make any sense to me. These microdisplays are still a ton smaller than the projection sets we had back in the day.

But, you did say the Sony was massive, and it's only 4 inches smaller now. That's not a massive difference. A 65 impala, now that's massive.
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I'm not picking on you, specifically. My wife says the same thing. So do a lot of people. Just doesn't make any sense to me. These microdisplays are still a ton smaller than the projection sets we had back in the day.

But, you did say the Sony was massive, and it's only 4 inches smaller now. That's not a massive difference. A 65 impala, now that's massive.

My wife and I just thought that the Sony 60A2020 looked massive compared to the Samsung HL-T6187. Maybe massive was not the correct word to use. But it just wasn't as appealing to look at it as a piece of furniture I guess. I haven't seen the A3000 yet.
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Just judging by what you've said, you'd like the A3000. The thin bezel makes the screen stand out more than the A2020, and it's got a slim form factor to it. It's only 4 inches thinner at 60", but it looks much thinner due to the form factor. It's a slick looking set, which I'm happy to say, doesn't fall over due to the slightest breeze the way the Samsung does. After looking and touching so many Samsung sets checking geometry, I can't stand to look at an HLT without thinking the thing will collapse in front of me.

Looks of a set aren't important to me. I just want the thing to function correctly, which in today's market, seems a big enough challenge.
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My wife and I just thought that the Sony 60A2020 looked massive compared to the Samsung HL-T6187. Maybe massive was not the correct word to use. But it just wasn't as appealing to look at it as a piece of furniture I guess. I haven't seen the A3000 yet.


Did you just call the A2020 a piece of furniture??

Anything with 3 pages of specs is not furniture.

HaHa.
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Did you just call the A2020 a piece of furniture??

Anything with 3 pages of specs is not furniture.

HaHa.


I guess that was another bad choice of words
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I was able to get BB to price match TD on a 60A3000 this last weekend... they included the shipping cost in the price match, which is fair... can't hurt to take a printout of the TD price into BB and ask for the manager of the home theater dept. and see if they will bite... might want to tell them that you have heard of other BB stores doing the price match... good luck.

Ok. I have been lurking on the AVS site for quite a while trying to decide on a new TV, extracting opinions and facts. Thanks to everyone here for their input, especially UMR for his very helpfull comments in the various forums. Since I am about to start sending my kids away to college very soon, I can no longer afford the new "price is no object" toys that I once could. The performance and price of the A3000 sounds perfect for my situation.

I just got Tweeter to price match TD for the kds60A3000, no shipping charge added. Just the price match + tax. Our local Best Buy was willing to do the same, but I like Tweeter much better. They tend to have the same group of guys working there for a longer period of time that are quite a bit more knowledgeable (at least in my area). It is always nice to have a good relationship with a (in this case) very knowledgeable, local B&M store employee. That makes it easy to get things done in case there is a problem later on down the road with the set. It is more personal, which I like. They are also videophiles, so they know exactly what you are talking about when you are discussing performance anomolies of the various display technologies.

I have delt with the Tweeter guy for some time (we are both avid audiophiles), so he did not even look up the TD price to verify. Nice to have that kind of trust! Also, if the price goes down before I pick it up, they will match that as well.

Now the bad news:
I have not even seen the set yet!

- Our local BB will not have a model set up in the store until Aug 24th or 25th (or so they say).

- Tweeter says their current delivery date is Sept 19th - the soonest they will have one for display or delivery This could change based on what I am reading here I guess and one can only hope. Of course, I will be able to preview the A3000 in the Tweeter store and mess around with it quite a bit BEFORE I actually take delivery to make sure it is what I expect. If it is not, I can allways apply the $$ to another set (God forbid ), as they cary all of the latest sets including Pioneer Elite, Mitu, Samsung, etc.

Oh well, I am in no particular rush anyway as I still have an old (but very good) 55" Pioneer Elite RPTV set (which will be going into our bedroom after the new TV arrives). The Pioneer Elite does killer SD, so I hope I will not be disapointed in the Sony in that regard. It's obviously not why I am buying the set, but with much of the Time Warner Cable programming still in SD (hopefully not for much longer), our family will still be watching quite a bit of it on this set.

I expect the HD on the A3000 to be stellar on HD channels and Blue Ray (which of course is the most important aspect and why I am buying the set), but can anyone chime in on the A3000's SD performance?

Yes, "it depends on what station you are watching", "GIGO from 480i content", "these TV's were not made to display SD", etc., but some of you are replacing older tube based RPTV's like me, so I am just wondering how it compares. Looking at the A2020 and XBR2's, as well as other microdisplays in Tweeter and Best Buy lends me to think they are quite inferior to my Pioneer Elite in displaying SD. Any way to get a decent SD picture on the A3000? Has it improved from the A2020? Comments?

Great sound is only 1000's of $$$'s away!
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Just got back from BB and paid for my TV, with the price match. I'll get it sometime friday. I can't wait to see a Blu-ray in 1080p/24, with or without motionflow on. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Am I going to be the first to chime in on the 50A3000? I chose the 50" because I'm only 5 or 6 feet away from the TV, so anything larger is overkill. Also my stand is designed for a 50" also. I guess my luck may be changing in a positive way because the guy I bought it off of said they just got the 55" and 60" in the store and the 50" in the warehouse today. If I would have called last week it would have been no sale and I might have waited for TD. Glad I don't have to wait on them anymore, except for getting my money back. What kind of company charges you before shipping it out to you? Oh well, lesson learned. So has anybody been able to get the color bit-rate on these out of Sony yet? You would think they would tell somebody by now.
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